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nsaP posted:Passive aggressive fuckheads piss me off and you never explained why the other parker was a huge rear end in a top hat. Cause they were over the line? Did you even talk to them before confronting them? Don't really see a problem with what he did there, that's not even passive-aggressive, that's just "parking".
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Frankly I have no sympathy for poor parking. You had to do parallel parking and reverse into a parking space to pass the test to get a license. Clearly these people have been taught how to loving park and at one point proved that they can do it. So in my perception they are lazy cunts who simply can't be bothered to park properly. It has nothing to do with skill and everything with the will to not be a loving asbo. It wouldn't be the first time I have told someone that they teach children to colour inside the lines in kindergarten and that parking is no different.
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Aug 23, 2015 11:32
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88h88 posted:Just read a story about an incident in the next city over. Dude in a Land Rover mowed down another guy on a motorbike as he thought it was his that was stolen a couple of days before. Guy should be in jail.
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Aug 23, 2015 13:33
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I have no sympathy for people who can't park either but if you be passive aggressive like that you're just asking for it. My motto is to just leave them alone and hopefully a natural gene pool cleansing will occur when they do some other completely stupid driving maneuver.
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Aug 23, 2015 15:00
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nsaP posted:Passive aggressive fuckheads piss me off and you never explained why the other parker was a huge rear end in a top hat. Cause they were over the line? Did you even talk to them before confronting them? I agree that he was being passive aggressive about it, and he even admitted to it, but he inconvenienced himself more than that woman and she deserved it. Maybe she'll think twice about parking like an rear end in a top hat next time.
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Aug 23, 2015 15:13
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Being passive aggressive about it will probably only get your car dented. I don't expect people who are too thick to park inside the lines to give a poo poo about the property of others. Unless it's one of those stance bro cars. They park like cunts because they are so goddamn afraid someone farts in the general direction of their piece of poo poo, that it is perfectly safe to box them in. Usually the paint on those is worth more than the saxo or polo that's underneath.
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Aug 23, 2015 15:22
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Deedle posted:Frankly I have no sympathy for poor parking. Depends on what state you first got your license in. I got mine in Florida and only had to park forward in a perpendicular spot, no reversing or parallel parking required (nor driving on a public road at all, for that matter; the entire test was in an empty parking lot with fake road lines painted on it). Edit: Not that parking properly or using common courtesy are difficult things to figure out on your own, just that driver's license standards in some parts of the country are even lower than you'd expect... 
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NoWake posted:She was sitting in the driver's seat smoking a cig when I pulled in. I reached over and knocked on her passenger window, told her she was way over the line and asked if she'd move over so I could open my door. She in return asked me to kiss her loving rear end, buttfuck my boyfriend (brother was with me) etc. I agree it's immature and passive aggressive but you get what you give. You did the right thing dude don't worry about the always offended usual suspects here
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Speaking of parking, Peoria made some spots reverse angle parking. Last time I was there, about 1/4 of the people pulled in forwards on the opposite side of the street. Good luck backing up against traffic when you leave! https://www.peoria.com/news/news_detail.php?news_id=4188 All the comments on this page and other sites have been about the coming apocalypse of car wrecks and closed businesses because this is somehow more difficult than the current parallel parking it's replacing.
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Uthor posted:Speaking of parking, Peoria made some spots reverse angle parking. Last time I was there, about 1/4 of the people pulled in forwards on the opposite side of the street. Good luck backing up against traffic when you leave! Is it just me or is that the easiest thing ever? Like, how do you gently caress that up?
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PT6A posted:Is it just me or is that the easiest thing ever? Like, how do you gently caress that up? Until two brodozers leave 3/4 of a space between them and aunt edna decides that her 1979 Cadillac can fit.
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Aug 23, 2015 18:35
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dennyk posted:Depends on what state you first got your license in. I got mine in Florida and only had to park forward in a perpendicular spot, no reversing or parallel parking required (nor driving on a public road at all, for that matter; the entire test was in an empty parking lot with fake road lines painted on it). I had to reverse out of a spot, do a three point turn and reverse back into the same spot. loving that up means you don't even get to leave the parking lot at the CBR and you won't get a license. All that before a driving test that takes an hour and involves special manoeuvres, motorway driving, residential areas. You'll probably get a pass if you get one or two remarks. Break a law, or gently caress up some other way and it's back to the CBR and no license for you. For example if during a hill start in a manual you roll back a noticeable amount, you fail on account of not being in control of the vehicle. Stall at a light once, they'll write it up to being nervous for the exam. Stall twice and you fail.
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When I got my license it was "Drive down that road. Take a turn here. Turn there. Turn here. Okay now we're going back, turn here. Turn here. Turn here. And turn here. Now park at the curb."
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PT6A posted:Is it just me or is that the easiest thing ever? Like, how do you gently caress that up? What I don't understand is how people think that's harder than the parallel parking that those spots replacing. Of course, the parallel parking spots in this town are about 50% longer than the ones in Chicago and people gently caress those up all the time around here.
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Deedle posted:Stall at a light once, they'll write it up to being nervous for the exam. Stall twice and you fail. To be fair, if you stall twice in the course of an hour, you are not ready to take your driving test. Not rolling back at all on a hill start is probably the most difficult part of driving a manual, and even then you should really be using your handbrake for that on the driving test, shouldn't you? EDIT: Here, they actually disadvantage you for taking the test in a manual transmission. Firstly, there's more things to gently caress up; secondly, you'll either get dinged for not having two hands on the wheel during a turn if you do shift during a turn, or for being in an inappropriate gear if you don't shift in the middle of the turn. PT6A fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Aug 23, 2015 |
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Aug 23, 2015 19:12
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How do you stall an automatic car? Serious question, I've never driven one.
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I had an automatic stall on be in reverse because of a bad tank of gas.
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If you take the test in an automatic, your license will be restricted, code 96 iirc.
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When I was learning to drive, one of the people in the car kept stalling because the car had a bad radiator or fan and he was afraid to pull out into traffic, so the car would overheat from excessive idling.
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Deedle posted:Just another reason I am glad that the Atlantic separates me from Florida drivers... Wish our tests were that rigorous. 50% of the people currently on the road would fail.
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Aug 23, 2015 20:07
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PaganGoatPants posted:Wish our tests were that rigorous. 50% of the people currently on the road would fail. And it would be glorious.
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PaganGoatPants posted:Wish our tests were that rigorous. 50% of the people currently on the road would fail. And 80% of the failures would still keep driving anyway.
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every time someone brings up some stupid idea to save lives while driving just ask them if theyd support much stricter standards and periodic retesting. *crickets*
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go3 posted:every time someone brings up some stupid idea to save lives while driving just ask them if theyd support much stricter standards and periodic retesting. Sure, why not? It's not like the driving test is that difficult. Still, I think a better solution (which would be much more palatable to the general public) would be recurrent training like pilots have to do. Don't necessarily make them take the whole test over again; let them take an approved driving course with a qualified instructor. This would provide an incentive for people do undertake more specialized driver training, like defensive driving courses, winter driving courses, high-performance driving courses, etc, which I think would improve road safety in general.
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88h88 posted:How do you stall an automatic car? Serious question, I've never driven one. Well, in theory, you can't. They generally don't, either, unless something is hosed like the torque converter lock-up clutch or excessive drag in the gearbox.
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PT6A posted:Sure, why not? It's not like the driving test is that difficult. Still, I think a better solution (which would be much more palatable to the general public) would be recurrent training like pilots have to do. Don't necessarily make them take the whole test over again; let them take an approved driving course with a qualified instructor. This would provide an incentive for people do undertake more specialized driver training, like defensive driving courses, winter driving courses, high-performance driving courses, etc, which I think would improve road safety in general. There's states in the US where once you're in your 60s or 70s you can renew your driver's license through the mail. If they can't be bothered to drive to the BMV to have their license renewed how do you think they're going to react to "not only do you have to actually come in, we're also going to re-test your ability to operate a motor vehicle"?
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go3 posted:every time someone brings up some stupid idea to save lives while driving just ask them if theyd support much stricter standards and periodic retesting. I see absolutely no downside to requiring everyone to do so. Prove that you are still physically and mentally fit to drive. That would weed out a metric gently caress tonne of bad drivers. And retaking the exam also requires me to pass the theoretical exam, so that should apply to everyone else as well. Oh and annual MOTs for everything with plates on it. Yes, that includes segways, mopeds, caravans, and motorcycles. Because people are too loving stupid to maintain their vehicles, telling them once a year to fix that poo poo or take it off the public roads is sadly necessary.
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PT6A posted:Sure, why not? It's not like the driving test is that difficult. Still, I think a better solution (which would be much more palatable to the general public) would be recurrent training like pilots have to do. Don't necessarily make them take the whole test over again; let them take an approved driving course with a qualified instructor. This would provide an incentive for people do undertake more specialized driver training, like defensive driving courses, winter driving courses, high-performance driving courses, etc, which I think would improve road safety in general. Who's paying for this?
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PCOS Bill posted:Who's paying for this? If I have to retake the exams that will cost me some 300 euro. But it's only once every ten years, so not exactly a huge expense. A new license is 25 the paperwork somewhere in the 70s.
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Deedle posted:My healthcare covers the medical fees. I have to foot the bill for everything else. No I mean if everyone is required to retake everything constantly.
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PCOS Bill posted:No I mean if everyone is required to retake everything constantly. They had to pay for it in the first place, so they'd have to pay for it again. (The drivers.)
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so not only do yall want to take away peoples god given right to drive like an rear end in a top hat, you want them to pay for it. there's an electable position.
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Geirskogul posted:Until two brodozers leave 3/4 of a space between them and aunt edna decides that her 1979 Cadillac can fit. Or assholes that tailgate not leaving room for someone to back up - I can see people getting into petty fights over spots like that go3 posted:so not only do yall want to take away peoples god given right to drive like an rear end in a top hat, you want them to pay for it. Not much different than drivers education courses that people have to pay for. And hell, if we're gonna restrict people with no road experience that are under a certain age, let's start doing the same for people over a certain age too, because sharing a road with Granny McSlowAss who can't see, hear, or react in time is just as dangerous as the dipshit kid who hasn't driven before. BOOTY-ADE fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Aug 23, 2015 |
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go3 posted:so not only do yall want to take away peoples god given right to drive like an rear end in a top hat, you want them to pay for it.
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To add some data to the whole talk; The average cost to get a drivers license in Sweden is 15 000 SEK, $1800 US as of today. Needless to say the cops nab licenseless drivers several times a day in my city of 150k people The work and money required isn't everything, the yearly inspections are unbelievable. Does the vehicle risk breaking down and causing an incident somewhere? Fails. Could it maybe perhaps run a risk of breaking down like that, like some pieces should be replaced because they are worn out? Passes with a note you better listen to and act on. Needless to say the cops also nab cars driving on plates belonging to cars not allowed to be on the road and cars driving on stolen plates daily!  The goal with everything is the very re-election campaign sounding "zero-vision" of zero deaths in traffic. Swedish statistics in 2013: 278 deceased 3 deaths per 100k people 0.05 deaths per 1000 vehicles 5 231 589 vehicles (Nearly 10 million people living in the country) For the sake of statistics to compare to, US data for 2013: 35 490 deceased 11,4 deaths per 100k people 0.14 deaths per 1000 vehicles 258 957 503 vehicles (317 million people) Russia trailed nearly 10k deaths behind the US and you know how those people drive. Makes you think. Surely some states have proper demands on handing out licenses and inspections?
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MrLonghair posted:To add some data to the whole talk; The average cost to get a drivers license in Sweden is 15 000 SEK, $1800 US as of today. Needless to say the cops nab licenseless drivers several times a day in my city of 150k people The cops in my city busted someone for driving without a license right after they'd been convicted of drunk driving at had their license suspended/revoked. In their words, they suspected this would happen, because the gentleman had decided to drive himself to court on the day of the sentencing. I think he got jail time after that. The punishment for driving without a valid license, or for driving without insurance, should be unpleasant enough that even taking public transit seems pleasant by comparison.
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Geoj posted:There's states in the US where once you're in your 60s or 70s you can renew your driver's license through the mail. Hell, in Georgia everyone can renew on the Internet as long as you've already been through the "Look, here's a second utility bill mailed to my house to prove I'm not an illegal immigrant terrorist identity thief" rigamarole in person at least once. Not that I'm complaining, it sure as gently caress beats waiting in line outside the local DMV for four hours to get your ticket to wait in a tiny room for four more. If they required tests for renewal, you'd basically have to live in a tent along County Services Parkway for the rest of your life to have any hope of getting an appointment before your current license expired. PT6A posted:The punishment for driving without a valid license, or for driving without insurance, should be unpleasant enough that even taking public transit seems pleasant by comparison. The trouble is that there are a lot of Americans who live in places where there is literally no public transit, and a lot more who live in places with terrible public transit that is entirely incompatible with a "your shift will change every week and sometimes we'll call you in unexpectedly and if you don't show up within the hour, you're fired" big-box retail/service job. Many of those folks also can't afford to pick up and move to one of the half-dozen or so major cities in the country that actually have a public transit system that's only kind of lovely. If someone is barely scraping by living in a trailer in East Nowheresville and they have to drive 45 miles each way to the nearest Wal-Mart for their minimum-wage job, they're gonna do what they gotta do, license and insurance or not, because it's better than the "stop paying rent and starve to death in the woods" alternative.
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dennyk posted:The trouble is that there are a lot of Americans who live in places where there is literally no public transit, and a lot more who live in places with terrible public transit that is entirely incompatible with a "your shift will change every week and sometimes we'll call you in unexpectedly and if you don't show up within the hour, you're fired" big-box retail/service job. Many of those folks also can't afford to pick up and move to one of the half-dozen or so major cities in the country that actually have a public transit system that's only kind of lovely. If someone is barely scraping by living in a trailer in East Nowheresville and they have to drive 45 miles each way to the nearest Wal-Mart for their minimum-wage job, they're gonna do what they gotta do, license and insurance or not, because it's better than the "stop paying rent and starve to death in the woods" alternative. Then I guess you better make really, really sure you keep your license and insurance current, eh? What's the solution for people that don't have a car? Steal one because you need to? I grew up in a really rural town of around 600 people. If you didn't have a car (and a fair number of people didn't), you walked or biked or hitch-hiked. I don't know of anyone that ever got done for driving without a license or insurance (insurance being a mandatory component of registration there).
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I already posted this in the terrible car poo poo thread, but it fits here too.  At 7:30PM this evening, five years of hard work, $15,000, and a Pristine Rust-Free Arizona Corvair were wasted by the negligence of one braindead moron. The loving Jerkoff who hit me attempted to take a 25MPH 90º curve in a residential neighborhood at a good 45-50MPH. By the time we saw him, he was so far over the center line that we couldn't do much to get out of the way. Of course he was drunk. Seeing the cops shove him cuffed into the back of a Cruiser was the only gratifying moment of the night. I'm thankful I'm not hurt but I'm so drat mad. The guy who helped me build this car Has Terminal ALS and won't be around much longer. This is the last Corvair he ever built, and we just finished it this spring. He never got the time to finish his own projects.  Drunk Driving assholes.On the bright side, The dude responsible is sleeping in County Lockup tonight, His brand new 2015 Sentra is probably totalled and I have a chunk of his front end to hang on my Garage wall as a trophy. He bounced off us like a drat tennis ball. MullardEL34 fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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PT6A posted:Then I guess you better make really, really sure you keep your license and insurance current, eh? In the us, most licenses are suspended for a single unpaid ticket (doesn't even need to be a moving violatopn). I'd agree 100% if everyone with suspended licenses got there for bad driving, but most people get there for being poor.
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