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The Locator posted:You contest their discretion in court, not in the street. The year suspension is if you refuse to consent to the testing. I get that but it means gently caress all when the scare tactic they use on the street is "take this needle or lose your licence for a year". So there you are in court contesting your .04 and the officer's stance is you were operating while inebriated because he didn't like your lane change. Contestable? Yes. But at what cost? Lawyer up? Guess it means which is cheaper, the DUI or the laywer. waddup derail.  vvvvvv no not ever. What you quoted is just proof of brokeness. Maker Of Shoes fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Aug 24, 2015 |
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Maker Of Shoes posted:drat, son. That would qualify for an "Extreme DUI" back here in AZ. Arizona is not something we want as a criminal justice system. 
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Maker Of Shoes posted:I get that but it means gently caress all when the scare tactic they use on the street is "take this needle or lose your licence for a year". So there you are in court contesting your .04 and the officer's stance is you were operating while inebriated because he didn't like your lane change. Contestable? Yes. But at what cost? Lawyer up? Guess it means which is cheaper, the DUI or the laywer. I've seen dui arrests and charges on clean blood, so "well you might get arrested" applies to basically everyone.
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CommieGIR posted:Arizona is not something we want Quoted for accuracy.
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veedubfreak posted:Quoted for accuracy. It puts the "south" in "southwest".  
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At least Arizona has some nice scenery. Though the rural highways with so many shattered beer bottles that the sides of the road sparkle like a field of stars at night was pretty creepy. Every time a pair of headlights showed up I wondered if that was going to be the drunk driver that killed me.
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CommieGIR posted:Arizona is not something we want as a criminal justice system. Maybe you don't
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PCOS Bill posted:Maybe you don't Yeah, a corrupt sheriff trying to play the justice system by investigating a sitting judge involved in his corruption charges investigation, while being actively investigated by the Feds, and who loves being a racist POS. No. No loving thanks.
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Aug 25, 2015 00:03
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Maker Of Shoes posted:It puts the "south" in "southwest".
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nm posted:If you're not lawyering up for a DUI you're doing it wrong. If you can go to jail, you want a lawyer. If it's something more serious than a parking ticket, always lawyer up. A DUI charge can ruin your life, get the best loving lawyer you can. The police are not on your side, no matter how innocent you are/think you are. It's a sad state affairs, but you've got to look out for yourself because they certainly are not looking out for you. I do not at all condone DUI, but I'd rather a guilty man go free than an innocent man be wrongfully convicted. Guinness fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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Maker Of Shoes posted:It puts the "south" in "southwest". How does something like this happen?
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My soul threw up a little.
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jamal posted:Four pints of an IPA (7.4%) one of my local breweries makes, over the course of 3 hours, puts me at 0.16. Not a very hard amount to drink. Well according to a calculator I found. I've blown (actually, blood sample) a 0.39% before.  Not while behind the wheel thank gently caress, but in my most recent hospital visit (I did not drive myself there, don't worry). I'd stopped drinking several hours before, and was generally coherent and able to stand/walk without stumbling much. Tolerance is a scary thing. What scared me is the nurses told me they've seen much higher out of people who were just as coherent. And my blood work was shockingly good, aside from being severely dehydrated. Liver levels were pretty elevated, but not to the point that either the doctor or myself expected (roughly 3x normal - they're back to normal now). The Locator posted:You contest their discretion in court, not in the street. The year suspension is if you refuse to consent to the testing. It's a 180 day suspension in TX if you refuse to blow, 90 days otherwise. Lawyers always say not to blow, but it's a mandatory 180 day suspension if you refuse, no way around it. Also a $1000/year surcharge for 3 years to keep your license after your first offense; $2000 if you blow over 0.16. nm posted:If you're not lawyering up for a DUI you're doing it wrong. If you can go to jail, you want a lawyer. Friend of mine just went through this. He did have SOME alcohol in his system, but he blew something like a 0.02. The whole reason he got stopped? He pulled over to the shoulder to let an emergency vehicle running code pass... and a cop was already on the shoulder and flipped his poo poo. He got the DUI (and all charges related the stop) thrown out, but since he was on probation (felony drug possession), his PO says he's violated his probation simply by having contact with a law enforcement officer (0.02 is low enough that he could have just brushed his teeth and used mouthwash a few minutes prior), so he's spending a fuckload on more legal fees. He has a drat good lawyer at least, she's saved him from his own stupidity too many times to count. Guinness posted:If it's something more serious than a parking ticket, always lawyer up. I wouldn't go that far over something like, say, a speeding ticket (as long as it's not felony speeds and doesn't have wreckless, drugs, or alcohol attached), but Texas lets you do defensive driving once a year to get rid of many tickets, and most counties also allow you to do a 90 day deferred adjudication once a year for a ticket as well (for speeding tickets, they have to be less than 25 over). The tickets still show up if a cop runs your ID or plates, but don't show up to insurance companies (if they do, they're not allowed to use them against you). Sometimes you don't even have to go before a judge, you can often request this from the court clerk. I've done the 90 day deferred adjudication by phone + mail once when I got a ticket on a road trip, the only pain is I had to order a copy of my driving record a few weeks before the end of the 90 days, then mail it halfway across the state. Got a letter a week later saying I'd done everything I needed to do and the matter was considered closed. It winds up being a lot cheaper than a lawyer, and you get essentially the same result (or you might plead to something like a seatbelt ticket, but that's still on your record, and you still have to pay it, plus the lawyer, plus court fees). Of course, for anything more serious than a minor traffic violation, there's the old saying "the man representing himself has a fool for a lawyer". Another friend got hit for B&E, represented himself, somehow got probation with the promise of a sealed record once he turned 18..... then hosed up the probation and spent nearly a year in state prison. (don't smoke weed when you're on probation, especially felony probation - but had he had a lawyer, he probably would have been able to get off lighter) Now has a felony following him around forever, he'll basically only work in construction or food service for the rest of his life.
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My cop buddy told me that the highest he'd ever heard of from the department he worked for was a girl who blew a .5-something. His own personal best was a .280.
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Aug 25, 2015 08:23
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I thought that was a child seat for a moment there.
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Nystral posted:How does something like this happen? Shear luck!
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rndmnmbr posted:My cop buddy told me that the highest he'd ever heard of from the department he worked for was a girl who blew a .5-something. His own personal best was a .280. How was .5 girl even alive?  I'm still astonished I was able to even speak and be understood, much less stand up on my own. Granted, I felt tipsy, but I didn't feel drunk.
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This got me curious, so I did a quick google:quote:In March 2009, a 45-year-old man was admitted to the hospital in Skierniewice, Poland, after being struck by a car. The blood test showed blood alcohol content at 1.23%. The man survived but did not remember either the accident or the circumstances of his alcohol consumption.[56] Megillah Gorilla fucked around with this message at 10:20 on Aug 25, 2015 |
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Well, I'm never driving in Poland, that's for drat sure.
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Aug 25, 2015 10:56
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At least they'll beat the Andromeda Strain.
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rndmnmbr posted:My cop buddy told me that the highest he'd ever heard of from the department he worked for was a girl who blew a .5-something. His own personal best was a .280. I took one of those STOP classes for a ticket years ago and the instructor mentioned when one of his coworkers pulled over a very large man for running a light and not using a signal. As soon as the officer gets to the car, dude blurts out "alright, you got me" and surrenders. Cop doesn't know  because he's just going for failure to yield and no signal. Turned out the guy was blasted from drinking almost a day straight and blew a .454 at the station. He said it was the most insane thing to see this dude walking, talking and acting coherent, no slurring, no stumbling or anything. Guy must have been a hardcore drinker to get his tolerance THAT high, and poo poo like that scares the hell out of me.
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wayfinder posted:Shear luck! 
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Tongue weight, how does it work?
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Looks like it's working just fine to me. That car? Not so much.
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I always wonder if they forgot the preservative or the seal failed on the vial in the gcms test. Those are high as poo poo. The highest I've seen was a 0.4 something. Tolerance is amazing.
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Good lord I cannot imagine having a BAC of .4 or .5 let alone 1% I've been "pinballing off the walls laughing to myself at the absurdity of life" drunk a few times, and I'm curious just how bad my BAC was. Do those little personal breathalyzers work reasonably well? Might be fun to get one for next time I get that drunk, to see what I'm at. [god I hope I don't get that drunk again, or if I do, it's somewhere with a nice comfy, clean bathroom floor]
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Can't find a news article to support this anymore, but I remember a year or two back here in Wisconsin all the local news stations had a piece on a guy the state troopers pulled over who was going 100+ on the interstate on the wrong side of the road who ended up blowing a little over 3.0 at the station. No idea whether he survived. It's possible I'm just faulty-memorying a local tall tale into a real event, but it's 'sconsin and I can totally buy into the idea of a guy downing a couple 30-packs at a tailgate and getting on the road.
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Code Jockey posted:Good lord I cannot imagine having a BAC of .4 or .5 let alone 1% The connection between BAC and intoxication level is very personal. As mentioned, all these people blowing 1% are hardcore alcoholices who pound vodka all day long or something. Their bodies are used to functioning at that level, hence, them not really seeming impaired.
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Un chien andalou posted:The connection between BAC and intoxication level is very personal.
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Un chien andalou posted:Their bodies are used to functioning at that level, hence, them not really seeming impaired. Well, to a point. Eventually their liver gives up on life and suddenly all kinds of poo poo is going wrong.
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I'm not so sure high tolerance is going to allow someone to not be poisoned by alcohol, it affects how much they feel. .4 is lethal territory.
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