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GotLag posted:What are those white/pale grey things? And are they just sitting on top of the ground? Concrete anchors.
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Well, if you're going to do a crap job building it, might as well make it ugly too.
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Aug 25, 2015 15:24
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Sudden Infant Def Syndrome posted:Well, if you're going to do a crap job building it, might as well make it ugly too. I hope they seal their deck before it rains. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6CiLH-_YM
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Aug 25, 2015 15:30
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Sudden Infant Def Syndrome posted:Well, if you're going to do a crap job building it, might as well make it ugly too. So wait, is that OSB they've dropped down as the floor? Pretty sure it is bags of Post Haste discarded in the first photo too. I don't think that stuff is strong enough for a deck. Home Depot apparently will give anyone that walks in the door a free consult for deck planning that basically includes the entire plan, step by step instructions and shopping list. It is unfortunate that the people that need this sort of thing most don't care to access it. Or maybe they are trying to get on Holmes on Homes?
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Aug 25, 2015 17:54
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If they just want a flat spot to put a swinging chair why don't they just put down some pavers or something? Knowing them they'd put them directly on the grass and call it done.
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Aug 25, 2015 18:02
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Baronjutter posted:Knowing them they'd put them directly on the grass and call it done. That would be more structurally sound, so it'd still be an improvement. Pretty sure that's not actually plywood they're using as decking, if you zoom in on the edge over the joist, I think you can see individual boards. But they're tight up against each other, no air gap that I can see.
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Aug 25, 2015 18:05
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Antifreeze Head posted:So wait, is that OSB they've dropped down as the floor? I wish. That would just be layers of amazing. They're just laying boards without any sort of pattern to it, so there will be two really ugly joints down the middle of the deck. I assume most people would consider doing a brick like pattern so it looks good.
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Aug 25, 2015 18:09
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GotLag posted:I hope they seal their deck before it rains. These guys did it for real: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjszSeQlTBM
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On the topic of terrible decks: some of the treads on my deck stairs seem to be rotting out, and some of the risers are popping out. I'm going to replace them shortly, but I'm considering doing it with composite decking instead of wood. And while I'm at it, doing the surface of the deck the same. I'd like to leave the rest of it as-is, though, namely the underlying structure and the railings. So I'm looking for a sanity check on this. Bad idea, good idea, etc? Am I going to be looking at a hideous franken-deck, or is it not so bad? For reference, it's this deck, about, oh, 16x12?  And these stairs, about 10' of climb: 
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Aug 27, 2015 22:05
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My parents built both a deck and a dock with composite decking and pressure-treated structure and they're holding up fine so far. The deck definitely looks like a monstrosity cause it uses salvaged first-gen composite that's ugly as sin, but other than that, no problems I'm aware of.
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Aug 27, 2015 22:55
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I've been working with high end composite deck boards for work recently, and I can't recommend it. It might last 20 years with strength and color, but I can scratch them with my fingernail. If we put the deck down, then put ladders and tools on it to build something up higher, it scratches and gouges, flick a cigarette cherry on it, it melts. I'd check out different brands in person before committing
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Aug 27, 2015 23:02
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bandaid posted:I've been working with high end composite deck boards for work recently, and I can't recommend it. It might last 20 years with strength and color, but I can scratch them with my fingernail. If we put the deck down, then put ladders and tools on it to build something up higher, it scratches and gouges, flick a cigarette cherry on it, it melts. Yeah the only good use we found for that stuff is making raised garden beds. It won't rot out, but it doesn't seem as durable a surface.
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Aug 27, 2015 23:27
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That's actually REALLY good info, because we're selling the place next summer, and my dog goes up and down those stairs all day long, he's done a pretty good number on the bottom steps as he launches off towards the lawn. If the composite stuff is too soft, it'd look like it got tagged by a lawnmower inside a month, I bet.
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Aug 27, 2015 23:37
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My father in law has composite decking and that stuff is freaking awesome. It's held up great for the last decade, you don't have to worry about it splintering, or treating it against UV/rain damage, and quite honestly it seems plenty resilient for chairs, tables, grills, dogs, and what have you getting scraped across it on a daily basis  I'm planning on building my own deck next year, and I don't see any compelling reason *not* to go with composite (besides the price). Even then it pays for itself, being virtually maintenance free.
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Aug 28, 2015 04:25
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Yeah, my parents' deck is composite decking and it's been just fine for the past 6-7 years. Survived full-sun exposure, dogs, cats, and grandkids running all over it, and my occasional large-scale woodworking project with no major problems. There may be a couple scratches, but they're basically the same ones cedar or teak would have picked up without the maintenance requirements.
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Aug 28, 2015 04:30
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OSU_Matthew posted:My father in law has composite decking and that stuff is freaking awesome. It's held up great for the last decade, you don't have to worry about it splintering, or treating it against UV/rain damage, and quite honestly it seems plenty resilient for chairs, tables, grills, dogs, and what have you getting scraped across it on a daily basis Maybe it has improved since I used it. I just really was not impressed with it compared to wood. It is worth checking in to at least when he starts planning.
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I looked at a house a few months back that had a deck and raised beds done in black plastic lumber. It was a couple of years old and still looked pretty good, if a little oppressive. They had cats and dogs and you could see loads of scratches if you looked closely but from a standing position it looked fine.
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Aug 28, 2015 08:11
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I'm not 100% sure on this, but the off-brand is the kind that scratches easy. Trex is more scratch resistant, it's the same material as renewal by Andersen Windows (fiber-x) Of course it's more expensive as well. Quaint Quail Quilt fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Aug 28, 2015 |
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The first-gen composites my parents used for their deck is the same stuff they make, like, institutional park benches out of, it's super thick, unbelievably heavy and has so much plastic in it that if you cut it with a fast saw the cut welds shut behind the blade (  ) but I'm confident the composite boards are going to be sitting pretty right there in a hundred years when the timbers have rotted out from under them.
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is that a cap soldered on to the pressure release?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:31
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That's it, close the thread. High-effort incompetence.
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Aug 28, 2015 21:18
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Where is the rest of the pipe?
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Aug 28, 2015 21:18
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oh god
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Why would you do that? I mean....just why?
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Aug 28, 2015 23:15
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So it won't leak any more, makes sense to me
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Aug 28, 2015 23:20
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spog posted:Why would you do that? Malicious intent
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That's one sick motherfucker.
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This is literally criminal, isn't it? It's a job- and/or site-ending move in industry.
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First off: Second off, this is super vague, but a while back someone linked this real good book for homebuilding and stuff on Amazon, does anyone recall what that book was? VV That'll Be it VVV ExplodingSims fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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ExplodingSims posted:First off: Don't know if it's the one you were thinking of, but I'm rather fond of Housebuilding: A Do-It-Yourself Guide. It has a good breakdown of how houses are put together and what you need to know for accomplishing various tasks safely and accurately.
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ExplodingSims posted:First off: youtube.com Why would ever read a book when you can watch people actually do it?
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Nitrox posted:youtube.com Videos are a lovely way to teach a ton of things. They don't have diagrams, they don't necessarily explain what they're doing, lots of instructional videos out there have lousy safety handling, etc. etc. etc. There's definitely situations where videos are handy, e.g. when learning a new skill, but there's just so many unknowns when it comes to housebuilding that you wouldn't even know what to search for if you're coming at it fresh.
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It's easier to monetize a video than it is a page of text. That's why there are so many video guides where text guides would be far more appropriate.
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https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/3ivoj6/canadaon_religious_challenges_to_condo_rules_or/quote:[Canada-ON] Religious challenges to condo rules, or can I found a religion to skirt a BBQ ban? (self.legaladvice)
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canyoneer posted:https://np.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/3ivoj6/canadaon_religious_challenges_to_condo_rules_or/ Holy poo poo, there are other reasons behind a ban than "smoke". Like fire. When I lived in an apartment, one of the buildings went up because an upper level BBQ caught an eave on fire and it crawled across the roof and burned the whole drat building down. That being said, the FD *could* have saved it, if the person responsible hadn't panicked and drove off in their car (and was drunk as well). By the time the fire system detected it, it was too late. Pretty much every exterior surface was starting to go up. It's a miracle nobody was killed. Some dogs and cats died. The last I heard the company that owned the complex was looking to sue her for the replacement of the entire building (not sure if renter's insurance covers at fault for that amount, probably not) and the city was looking at bringing criminal charges.
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We had a genius who decided to bbq outside, then bring the still hot and full of charcoal grill into their patio closet.
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The Gardenator posted:We had a genius who decided to bbq outside, then bring the still hot and full of charcoal grill into their patio closet. Recently, a couple went camping and decided to bring their extinguished charcoal grill into the tent at night to keep the rain off it. Turned out that a) just cause it's not red, doesn't mean it isn't burning and b) airflow into a tent isn't as good as you might think and certainly not enough to replace the oxygen used up by smouldering charcoal
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