|
I just got an e-mail from PositiveGrid that makes the pretty bad rear end BIAS amp emulator for iOS and computers saying their tech is going to be used in Rock Band 4 I haven't paid any attention to Rock Band 4 because I never was into those games. Are they going to have it playable more like Rocksmith or are they just tacking on some gimmicky stuff? quote:We are proud to announce that Positive Grid and Harmonix Music Systems are now working in partnership for the new line of BIAS Amp technology available in the upcoming Freestyle Guitar Solo gameplay in Rock Band 4.
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2015 18:55
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 21:16 |
|
|
It sounds like they're just putting a bunch of amp tones in the game. I don't know anything about the game, mind, I just assumed it was another plastic guitar game.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2015 19:18
|
|
|
What I'm guessing is that the freestyle sections are just going to play some clean midi-ish guitar tones and then they'll run that signal through amp modeling like Rocksmith does to match the guitar tones in the song. Makes sense to me, that way they can match the tones without recording stuff for each song.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2015 20:03
|
|
|
Fina posted:What I'm guessing is that the freestyle sections are just going to play some clean midi-ish guitar tones and then they'll run that signal through amp modeling like Rocksmith does to match the guitar tones in the song. Yeah that's exactly what they're doing. The cool part is they're finally making rockband more of an actual "you can jam some notes" than it was in the past. Lots of real musicians tried rockband in front of harmonix and then complained when it was so forced and you couldn't improvise whatsoever. Since Guitar Hero and Rock Band both kinda killed that industry, they're hoping to mix things up to bring it back. Guitar Hero is doing a more complicated controller that actually has two rows of buttons instead of just one row, and rock smith is working on having "freestyle" areas where pressing buttons just fires off MIDI signals for notes that are in-key, so that people who know nothing about music theory can just press buttan and have some okay music come out. Its cool that they're doing that and its cool they're doing some cool amp modeling to make it sound good too (although it'll still sound obviously way different than the recorded tracks) but its just nothing like Rocksmith or other real-guitar games. I guess that one guitar hero let you use a real guitar, or was that rocksmith? But you had to use a special MIDI-guitar, not as good as rocksmith's stuff.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2015 20:30
|
|
|
Rock Band 3 is the one that let you use the MIDI guitar for pro-guitar mode. It was a neat idea but the charts were way harder to read while playing compared to the notation that Rocksmith uses, and I found that the way you had to pluck muted strings made it harder to learn anything since you weren't hearing what you were actually playing from the guitar. If you had the special MIDI Strat which was an actual electric guitar and it was tuned to E Standard, but then the song in RB3 was charted as Drop D or some obscure A231 whatever tuning, you'd plug it into an amp and try to play what you saw on the screen and it'd sound like garbage since the tuning was wrong and RB3 didn't expose the tuning information IIRC. Rocksmith obviously had an advantage there since you heard exactly what you were squeezing out of the guitar, good or bad, though you would have to re-tune between songs which can get annoying.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2015 20:56
|
|
|
As someone who was a percussionist long before picking up a guitar, I love rock band for the ability to play along with others without drowning out the room. (V drums still out of my reach). Also because nobody every wants to be the drummer.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2015 21:48
|
|
|
The RockBand 3 pro controller also works off capacative frets, so it detects exactly where your fingers are, not the note you're playing. It couldn't handle bends at all, since it couldn't tell which fret you were touching. It would also freak out if you moved notes, such as playing an open A or an A on the 5th fret of the low E, which drives me nuts. Even so, it was a perfect gateway drug to get me into playing real guitar, picking up Rocksmith, and playing in a band/writing music, so I can't be too mad.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2015 21:48
|
|
|
OhDearGodNo posted:As someone who was a percussionist long before picking up a guitar, I love rock band for the ability to play along with others without drowning out the room. (V drums still out of my reach). I love being the drummer. I play real guitar so plastic guitars are stupid, but I don't play real drums and plastic drums are actually kinda close to real drums unlike plastic guitars.
|
|
#
?
Aug 20, 2015 22:37
|
|
|
I was one of those dorks who bought a real electronic drum kit to play rock band. I'm actually excited to move to my be house because I'll finally have room to keep them out.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 00:24
|
|
|
TriggerHappy posted:The RockBand 3 pro controller also works off capacative frets, so it detects exactly where your fingers are, not the note you're playing. It couldn't handle bends at all, since it couldn't tell which fret you were touching. It would also freak out if you moved notes, such as playing an open A or an A on the 5th fret of the low E, which drives me nuts. This makes me wonder what a fretless instrument with a multi-touch capacitive fretboard would be like. If you could make it durable enough you could include an array of small displays for interactive inlays and microtonal markers generated by software.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 06:28
|
|
|
Verizian posted:This makes me wonder what a fretless instrument with a multi-touch capacitive fretboard would be like. If you could make it durable enough you could include an array of small displays for interactive inlays and microtonal markers generated by software. It would probably cost a fortune, at least initially.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 07:10
|
|
|
Verizian posted:This makes me wonder what a fretless instrument with a multi-touch capacitive fretboard would be like. If you could make it durable enough you could include an array of small displays for interactive inlays and microtonal markers generated by software. What you're describing is a more expensive version of the Haken Continuum. (Add in some LED screens) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnBhR8RLJN8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrmp2EaVChI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW1KeRNaP-Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0NoiKxlESw Very cool poo poo, very expensive. (5 grand) If you're not familiar with the Continuum, its a keyboard made with capacitive touch surfaces that let you do pitch bends by sliding up or down and control volume and impact by how hard you push in. Its loving amazing. Keyboards are more pure to the sheet music, but guitar strings let you really feel and touch the music more directly than keys. The Continuum seems like the best of both worlds to me, direct music theory played on the keys, but with all the expressiveness of strings. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Aug 21, 2015 |
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 16:59
|
|
|
The Stone Roses next week
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 19:09
|
|
|
toymach1ne posted:The Stone Roses next week Now this is one I'm massively interested in.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 19:15
|
|
|
Guessing Love Spreads, She Bangs the Drums, I Wanna be Adored? If it's a 5 pack, add in I am the Ressurection and Fool's Gold?
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 19:24
|
|
|
Kaboobi posted:Guessing Love Spreads, She Bangs the Drums, I Wanna be Adored? Yeah SCEE confirms your first three
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 19:54
|
|
|
toymach1ne posted:The Stone Roses next week  I don't care which songs, this is gonna be excellent.
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 20:03
|
|
|
toymach1ne posted:The Stone Roses next week  Ubi killing it lately with the DLC
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 22:32
|
|
|
toymach1ne posted:The Stone Roses next week holy gently caress yes, acceptable songs: all of them
|
|
#
?
Aug 21, 2015 23:29
|
|
|
toymach1ne posted:The Stone Roses next week
|
|
#
?
Aug 24, 2015 17:25
|
|
|
The Stone Roses Song Pack – $7.99 The Stone Roses “I Wanna Be Adored” The Stone Roses – “Love Spreads” Open D: A443 [Lead]; Drop D: A443 [Rhythm]; D Standard: A443 [Bass] The Stone Roses – “She Bangs the Drums”
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2015 04:36
|
|
|
Anyone else unable to play after updating to windows 10?
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2015 17:26
|
|
|
Mercedes posted:Anyone else unable to play after updating to windows 10? Someone up-thread mentioned updating the drivers after going to windows 10.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2015 19:02
|
|
|
Update all of the drivers
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2015 20:23
|
|
|
I had to play with my audio settings. Eventually I deleted the rocksmith ini file, enabled exclusive mode in windows for the playback and recording device, and it worked again.
|
|
#
?
Aug 25, 2015 20:32
|
|
|
Earth Wind and Fire Pack next week
|
|
#
?
Aug 29, 2015 01:39
|
|
|
toymach1ne posted:Earth Wind and Fire Pack next week gently caress.Yes.
|
|
#
?
Aug 29, 2015 10:01
|
|
|
Yeah, pretty sweet. Only three songs though apparently.
|
|
#
?
Aug 29, 2015 10:03
|
|
|
toymach1ne posted:Earth Wind and Fire Pack next week well then let's groove
|
|
#
?
Aug 29, 2015 12:01
|
|
|
September Shining Star Sing a Song
|
|
#
?
Aug 29, 2015 18:04
|
|
|
Those were the most likely and I'm ok(hype) with that.
|
|
#
?
Aug 29, 2015 18:36
|
|
|
Anyone else never have their news feed update on the main menu screen? Mine is still advertising some ancient DLC under a banner that says "News For 6/9/2015". It never changes.
|
|
#
?
Aug 30, 2015 23:57
|
|
|
It rarely is. There's a small crew handling DLC but the main development on the game is long over, until another one is released.
|
|
#
?
Aug 31, 2015 01:55
|
|
|
I wonder if this Rocksmith stuff has made a profit for UbiSoft. I'm glad that they're still supporting the game with DLC and at this point they're easily second place to Harmonix as far as a library goes. The Ubi SF team is working on the new South Park game now, so I wouldn't expect a new Rocksmith game any time soon. But who knows.
|
|
#
?
Aug 31, 2015 03:38
|
|
|
Fina posted:I wonder if this Rocksmith stuff has made a profit for UbiSoft. I'm glad that they're still supporting the game with DLC and at this point they're easily second place to Harmonix as far as a library goes. The Ubi SF team is working on the new South Park game now, so I wouldn't expect a new Rocksmith game any time soon. But who knows. If the dlc wasn't profitable, they wouldn't be making it. IIRC the profit margins on the dlc is significantly better than on a new $60 boxed game simply due to price point in a per song basis. My worry is that Ubisoft will get tunnel vision looking at dlc profits and will hold off on greenlighting a new rocksmith because of the above profit margins
|
|
#
?
Aug 31, 2015 18:03
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 2, 2015 23:32
|
|
|
oh poo poo Flaming Lips
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2015 00:47
|
|
|
I figured out how to get rid of the delay/lag on my system. Just use an A/B/Y box and split the signal to a practice amp and to the game. Had to rearrange what I had plugged into the power strips to avoid the ground loop because of the lovely wiring in my apt. I also don't get to play around with the tones but I've got a few pedals so that works
|
|
#
?
Sep 3, 2015 00:49
|
|
|
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzg2KRDL9cE maybe the most impressive RS2014 video ever
|
|
#
?
Sep 4, 2015 05:26
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 21:16 |
|
|
So I finally decided to use a splitter cable so I can play through my pedal and amp (primarily a line5 hd500 and dt25) and it is so so so much nicer. I'm really sensitive to latency and it's nice not having to worry about it. It's kind of a pain though, because I have to keep the pedal/amp plugged into the battery backup I have my PC plugged into, which is filled up with other stuff so I have to unplug a bunch of crap or otherwise I get an extremely loud buzzing/ground loop/ac hum. Still, worth it though, I don't know why I never bothered doing this before. I certainly recommend trying it if you haven't.
|
|
#
?
Sep 4, 2015 05:34
|
|