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Maybe it's just my own preconceptions but it sounds unbearably smug to me. "Unlike most altruism, this is actually effective."
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There's some really dumb stuff associated with EA though, like the idea that getting rich and donating to charity is more virtuous than doing a job that has a direct positive impact, which is mighty convenient for a bunch of Silicon Valley types seeking absolution that doesn't involve actual inconvenience.
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Aug 15, 2015 19:47
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Best aftermath bit: Lukeprog attempting to play this down and claimed it was taken out of context ... but that precise claim was one of the slides for the talk, which Salomon gave several times.
As a charity reviewer, GiveWell largely don't suck, which is nice.
Yeah I get that. I'm saying the name 'effective altruism' doesn't necessarily make people think that when they hear it. Looks like 'utilitarian altruism' would be closer to the mark.
It's the last movement the world will ever need, after all.
Also, you should give your money to MIRI, as actual observed EAs in SF appear to in practice, even though EAs elsewhere have correctly realised that Yudkowsky and all his works is an embarrassment to be swept under the carpet.
divabot fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Aug 15, 2015
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Aug 15, 2015 20:14
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Still a worse investment than any charity that gives nothing to MIRI.
What's a worse investment?
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Aug 15, 2015 21:48
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Best aftermath bit: Lukeprog attempting to play this down and claimed it was taken out of context ... but that precise claim was one of the slides for the talk, which Salomon gave several times.
It was in an official presentation? I thought it was just a one-off internet comment that its supporters started parroting.
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It was in an official presentation? I thought it was just a one-off internet comment that its supporters started parroting.
Video and transcript; it's 12:00 on, and I can't find a copy of the slide deck but you can see it on the screen in the video. It wasn't a passing aside or out of context, it was a sufficiently important point to put in the slides, and was said as if this was a big selling point for the SIAI's whole deal.
Anna Salamon posted:
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So according to that, value from current total AI risks research, probability that it sways times impact if it does: 500 million lives, times that future multiplier, which is sort of a crazy amount.
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And impact per full time person, we’re dividing that 500 million lives times future multiplier by 300. 1.6 million lives times future multiplier. Also a crazy amount to be swayed by like one additional person getting full-time involved with this.
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You can divide it up, per half day of time, something like 800 lives. Per $100 of funding, also something like 800 lives.
Though she now considers the number not as robust as she considered it then. So, er, good?
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Beep boop robot marriage posted:
the best course of action is to marry someone who is on the margin of being an EA, but is unlikely to stick with it without your influence. If you’re on the less committed end of the EA spectrum (do you sneak dairy products when no one’s looking? fantasize about owning a yacht?), try marrying someone particularly moral. Ideally just thinking about their reaction should be enough to stop you doing anything wrong.
This feels very cult-like. EA wants you to spend all your money on EA-approved things and to control your social life, including who you marry. Bad thoughts must be curtailed, by yourself or others. The only thing that's missing is severe consequences imposed on anyone who tries to leave or intrude upon the EA-approved life (which, to be fair, is a huge part of what makes a cult a cult).
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Aug 18, 2015 01:36
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Poe's Law is in effect here. The author claims to like professional shitbag Heartiste, and I can't tell if they're joking.
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This feels very cult-like. EA wants you to spend all your money on EA-approved things and to control your social life, including who you marry. Bad thoughts must be curtailed, by yourself or others. The only thing that's missing is severe consequences imposed on anyone who tries to leave or intrude upon the EA-approved life (which, to be fair, is a huge part of what makes a cult a cult).
It was in fact a parody, though that's actually an EA tumblr.
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Aug 18, 2015 11:50
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It was in fact a parody, though that's actually an EA tumblr.
Thank gently caress for that.
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Just pointing out that giving money to a charity that gives a share of it to MIRI is a stupid idea when there's lots of uncontaminated ones around.
I don't know what charity you're talking about -- you were responding to a post about the EA community, not a specific charity.
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Chapter 14: The Unknown and the Unknowable
Part Seven
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On the plus side, the Comed-Tea, which had once seemed all-powerful and all-unbelievable, had turned out to have a much simpler explanation. Which he'd missed merely because the truth was completely outside his hypothesis space or anything that his brain had evolved to comprehend. But now he actually had figured it, probably. Which was sort of encouraging. Sort of.
Harry glanced down at his watch. It was nearly 11AM, he'd gotten to sleep last night at 1AM, so in the natural state of affairs he'd go to sleep tonight at 3AM. So to go to sleep at 10PM and wake up at 7AM, he should go back five hours total. Which meant that if he wanted to get back to his dorm at around 6AM, before anyone was awake, he'd better hurry up and...
Even in retrospect Harry didn't understand how he'd pulled off half the stuff involved in the Prank. Where had the pie come from?
Harry was starting to seriously fear time travel.
On the other hand, he had to admit that it had been an irreplaceable opportunity. A prank you could only pull on yourself once in a lifetime, within six hours of when you first found out about Time-Turners.
In fact that was even more puzzling, when Harry thought about it. Time had presented him with the finished Prank as a fait accompli, and yet it was, quite clearly, his own handiwork. Concept and execution and writing style. Every last part, even the ones he still didn't understand.
Well, time was a-wasting and there were at most thirty hours in a day. Harry did know some of what he had to do, and he might figure out the rest, like the pie, while he was working. There was no point putting it off. He couldn't exactly accomplish anything stuck here in the future.
If Harry is interested in scientific experimentation, shouldn’t he now not play the prank on himself, so that he can see what happens if the self-fulfilling prophecy is not in fact fulfilled?
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Five hours earlier, Harry was sneaking into his dorm with his robes pulled up over his head as a thin sort of disguise, just in case someone was already up and about and saw him at the same time as Harry lying in his bed. He didn't want to have to explain to anyone about his little medical problem with Spontaneous Duplication.
Fortunately it seemed that everyone was still asleep.
And there also seemed to be a box, wrapped in red and green paper with a bright golden ribbon, lying next to his bed. The perfect, stereotypical image of a Christmas present, although it wasn't Christmas. Harry crept in as softly as he could manage, just in case someone had their Quieter turned down low.
There was an envelope attached to the box, closed by plain clear wax without a seal impressed.
Harry carefully pried the envelope open, and took out the letter inside.
The letter said:
This is the Cloak of Invisibility of Ignotus Peverell, passed down through his descendants the Potters. Unlike lesser cloaks and spells it has the power to keep you hidden, not merely invisible. Your father lent it to me to study shortly before he died, and I confess that I have received much good use of it over the years.
In the future I shall have to get along with Disillusionment, I fear. It is time the Cloak was returned to you, its heir. I had thought to make this a Christmas present, but it wished to come back to your hand before then. It seems to expect you to have need of it. Use it well.
No doubt you are already thinking of all manner of wonderful pranks, as your father committed in his day. If his full misdeeds were known, every woman in Gryffindor would gather to desecrate his grave. I shall not try to stop history from repeating, but be MOST careful not to reveal yourself. If Dumbledore saw a chance to possess one of the Deathly Hallows, he would never let it escape his grasp until the day he died.
A Very Merry Christmas to you.
The note was unsigned.
The words ”If Dumbledore saw a chance to possess one of the Deathly Hallows, he would never let it escape his grasp until the day he died. implies that it was someone other than Dumbledore who gave the Cloak to Harry (another departure from the canon series). Did time-travelling Eliezarry from the future pass the Cloak to present-time Harry too?
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If Harry is interested in scientific experimentation, shouldn’t he now not play the prank on himself, so that he can see what happens if the self-fulfilling prophecy is not in fact fulfilled?
The words ”If Dumbledore saw a chance to possess one of the Deathly Hallows, he would never let it escape his grasp until the day he died. implies that it was someone other than Dumbledore who gave the Cloak to Harry (another departure from the canon series). Did time-travelling Eliezarry from the future pass the Cloak to present-time Harry too?
"Ha ha your dad was a rapist, or at least a creepy voyeur. Good luck!"
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The words ”If Dumbledore saw a chance to possess one of the Deathly Hallows, he would never let it escape his grasp until the day he died. implies that it was someone other than Dumbledore who gave the Cloak to Harry (another departure from the canon series). Did time-travelling Eliezarry from the future pass the Cloak to present-time Harry too?
Good question. Maybe it was supposed to be from Quirrel, having taken it from James before he killed him?
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There's some really dumb stuff associated with EA though, like the idea that getting rich and donating to charity is more virtuous than doing a job that has a direct positive impact, which is mighty convenient for a bunch of Silicon Valley types seeking absolution that doesn't involve actual inconvenience.
Art is a selfish waste of time. Therefore, HPMOR is not art. Phew.
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Someone is shirking their obligation of reading HPMOR. 500,000 words to go!
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The rest of us could take turns or something if JosephWongKS has inadvertently come to his senses.
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Chapter 14: The Unknown and the Unknowable
Part Eight
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"Hold on," Harry said, pulling up short as the other boys were about to leave the Ravenclaw dorm. "Sorry, there's something else I've got to do with my trunk. I'll be along to breakfast in a couple of minutes."
Terry Boot scowled at Harry. "You'd better not be planning to go through any of our things."
Harry held up one hand. "I swear that I intend to do nothing of the sort to any of your things, that I only intend to access objects that I myself own, that I have no pranking or otherwise questionable intentions towards any of you, and that I do not anticipate those intentions changing before I get to breakfast in the Great Hall."
Isn’t Harry trying to be nice and get along with his peers now? Why would he talk like that?
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Terry frowned. "Wait, is that -"
"Don't worry," said Penelope Clearwater, who was there to guide them. "There were no loopholes. Well-worded, Potter, you should be a lawyer."
Harry would make a terrible lawyer. Excessive verbiage arouses suspicion in the counterparty and costs everyone time in the search for loopholes arising from such suspicion. Good lawyers only use as many words as necessary – in this case, a “I’m not planning to go through your things” would have sufficed.
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Harry Potter blinked at that. Ah, yes, Ravenclaw prefect. "Thank you," he said. "I think."
"When you try to find the Great Hall, you will get lost." Penelope stated this in the tones of a flat, unarguable fact. "As soon as you do, ask a portrait how to get to the first floor. Ask another portrait the instant you suspect you might be lost again. Especially if it seems like you're going up higher and higher. If you are higher than the whole castle ought to be, stop and wait for search parties. Otherwise we shall see you again four months later and you will be five months older and dressed in a loincloth and covered in snow and that's if you stay inside the castle."
"Understood," said Harry, swallowing hard. "Um, shouldn't you tell students all that sort of stuff right away?"
Penelope sighed. "What, all of it? That would take weeks. You'll pick it up as you go along." She turned to go, followed by the other students. "If I don't see you at breakfast in thirty minutes, Potter, I'll start the search."
Was there a Penelope Clearwater in the canon series, or is this an Original Character of Eliezer?
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Was there a Penelope Clearwater in the canon series, or is this an Original Character of Eliezer?
She was mentioned as Percy's girlfriend, but I don't believe she ever got any screen time.
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Chapter 14: The Unknown and the Unknowable
Part Nine
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Once everyone was gone, Harry attached the note to his bed - he'd already written it and all the other notes, working in his cavern level before everyone else woke up. Then he carefully reached inside the Quietus field and pulled the Cloak of Invisibility off Harry-1's still-sleeping form.
And just for the sake of mischief, Harry put the Cloak into Harry-1's pouch, knowing it would thereby already be in his own.
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"I can see that the message is passed on to Cornelion Flubberwalt," said the painting of a man with aristocratic airs and, in fact, a perfectly normal nose. "But might I ask where it came from originally? "
Harry shrugged with artful helplessness. "I was told that it was spoken by a hollow voice that belled forth from a gap within the air itself, a gap that opened upon a fiery abyss."
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"Hey!" Hermione said in tones of indignation from her place on the other side of the breakfast table. "That's everyone's dessert! You can't just take one whole pie and put it in your pouch!"
"I'm not taking one pie, I'm taking two. Sorry everyone, gotta run now!" Harry ignored the cries of outrage and left the Great Hall. He needed to arrive at Herbology class a little early.
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Professor Sprout eyed him sharply. "And how do you know what the Slytherins are planning?"
"I can't name my source," Harry said. "In fact I have to ask you to pretend that this conversation never happened. Just act like you happened across them naturally while you were on an errand, or something. I'll run on ahead as soon as Herbology gets out. I think I can distract the Slytherins until you get there. I'm not easy to scare or bully, and I don't think they'll dare to seriously hurt the Boy-Who-Lived. Though... I'm not asking you to run in the hallways, but I would appreciate it if you didn't dawdle along the way."
Professor Sprout looked at him for a long moment, then her expression softened. "Please be careful with yourself, Harry Potter. And... thank you."
"Just be sure not to be late," Harry said. "And remember, when you get there, you weren't expecting to see me and this conversation never happened."
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It was horrible, watching himself yank Neville out of the circle of Slytherins. Neville had been right, he'd used too much force, way too much force.
"Hello," Harry Potter said coldly. "I'm the Boy-Who-Lived."
Eight first-year boys, mostly the same height. One of them had a scar on his forehead and he wasn't acting like the others.
Oh wad some power the giftie gie us
To see oursel's as others see us!
It wad frae monie a blunder free us,
And foolish notion –
Professor McGonagall was right. The Sorting Hat was right. It was clear once you saw it from the outside.
There was something wrong with Harry Potter.
I did enjoy the montage where he set up the puzzle for himself, though the question as to why he did it is still unanswered.
I also liked Eliezarry’s acknowledgement that there was something wrong with himself. Perhaps this will lead to some actual personal development?
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He did it because it was done to him thus he had to do it.
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Stepan Andreyevich Bandera being the most prominent example of that
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Perhaps this will lead to some actual personal development?
Hahahahahaha
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Experimenting with time travel should PROBABLY be a bit more scientific than "I'm supposed to do things I know I'm going to do huh? Time to Not Do Those Things." of course he doesn't actually do a proper experiment with a control or anything he just see's if he can exploit it
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Experimenting with time travel should PROBABLY be a bit more scientific than "I'm supposed to do things I know I'm going to do huh? Time to Not Do Those Things." of course he doesn't actually do a proper experiment with a control or anything he just see's if he can exploit it
He does try some actual experiments with it soon enough.
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Chapter 15: Conscientiousness
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Love as thou Rowling.
Today's historical tidbit: The ancient Hebrews considered the boundary of a day to be sunset rather than dawn, so they said "evening and morning" not "morning and evening". (And as many reviewers noted, modern Jewish halacha asserts the same.)
Wikipedia says the same thing:
The Jewish day is of no fixed length. The Jewish day is modeled on the reference to "...there was evening and there was morning..."[3] in the Creation account in the first chapter of Genesis. Based on the classic Rabbinic interpretation of this text, a day in the Rabbinic Hebrew calendar runs from sunset (start of "the evening") to the next sunset.
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"I'm sure I'll find the time somewhere."
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"Frigideiro! "
Harry dipped a finger in the glass of water on his desk. It should have been cool. But lukewarm it was, and lukewarm it had stayed. Again.
Harry was feeling very, very cheated.
There were hundreds of fantasy novels scattered around the Verres household. Harry had read quite a few. And it was starting to look like he had a mysterious dark side. So after the glass of water had refused to cooperate the first few times, Harry had glanced around the Charms classroom to make sure no one was watching, and then taken a deep breath, concentrated, and made himself angry. Thought about the Slytherins bullying Neville, and the game where someone knocked down your books every time you tried to pick them up again.
This seems to be another instance where Eliezer is writing from personal experience. Has he mentioned in his blog or elsewhere about being bullied during his childhood?
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Thought about what Draco Malfoy had said about the ten-year-old Lovegood girl and how the Wizengamot really operated...
And the fury had entered his blood, he had held out his wand in a hand that trembled with hate and said in cold tones "Frigideiro! " and absolutely nothing had happened.
Harry had been gypped. He wanted to write someone and demand a refund on his dark side which clearly ought to have irresistible magical power but had turned out to be defective.
Plus points to the story for not making Eliezarry an instant genius and success at wizarding.
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Mr Yudkowsky is most upset at our esteemed colleague su3su2u1:
I requested any real examples anyone could find, in the thread alexander referenced, and got one actual science error contributed (that I need to fix at some point) that of course wasn't actually from su3su2su1 but just from an interested bystander.
Why would you expect someone building an online reputation on sneering to go the trouble of scanning a thoroughly scanned work until they found a new science error that had passed me and all previous readers when they could just force a few strained interpretations into fake errors? It's not like his primary readership cares so long as somebody gets a new good hit in on that Big Yud guy they've all come together to hate.
I've made a number of science errors over the course of my life, and had them pointed out to me - but I don't think ever even once by the people of the sneer.
Finding a real error takes work, careful reading, double checking to make sure this is really actually an error and that the author didn't already correct it in a later edition. I'm proud to this day that I found an error of a higher level than typo in the second edition of Judea Pearl's Causality (which Pearl fixed in the next edition) because it demonstrates that there's one section there that I read through and visualized more carefully than anyone else with a propensity to send in errors. And you'd better believe I triple checked that apparent problem before emailing Pearl, and even then it turned out my suggested solution still wasn't right.
/r/HPMOR as a whole has a respectable power to find errors sometime, though minor continuity blips are far more common than science errors. But the thought that su3su2su1 could just walk through finding errors in every chapter is laughable, and since he's clearly making up most of it, you shouldn't be surprised that he's making up all of it. If somebody started posting a list of science errors by Scott Aaronson or Scott Alexander purporting to find errors in every post, I wouldn't expect to find even a single real one mixed in.
The thinking there takes some untangling: he hasn't actually read su3su2u1's extensive critique of HPMOR, nor looked at the list of claims AlexanderWales collected for him. He is doing exemplary Bayesian reasoning based on deliberate ignorance of what he's reasoning about. Note how even Christopher Hallquist is heartily sick of his poo poo.
su3su2u1 outlines the thought process:
He hasn’t read any of my work but he decided
1. It’s super hard to find science errors, so his prior that anything I found is low. So his prior for “is making this up” is high.
2. Every mistake or criticism mentioned then “supports” the fact that I’m making it up.
So as usual, it goes:
“lies lies lies lies lying liar who LIES LIES LIES”
“cites plox, here’s mine where’s yours”
(tumbleweeds)
“lies lies lies lies lying liar who LIES LIES LIES”
Edit: Jesus, this is just embarrassing. I'm cringing here.
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CHAPTER 1
No science
CHAPTER 2
Conservation of Energy - Bad Science
quote:You turned into a cat! A SMALL cat! You violated Conservation of Energy!
The Hamiltonian and energy conservation - Bad Science
quote:You violated Conservation of Energy! That's not just an arbitrary rule, it's implied by the form of the quantum Hamiltonian!
Unitary and the Hamiltonian - Bad Science
quote:Rejecting [the quantum Hamiltonian] destroys unitarity
Faster than light signaling - Bad Science
quote:and then [rejecting unitarity] you get FTL signalling
CHAPTER 3
Bystander effect - Bad Science
quote:The Dark Lord had raged upon wizarding Britain like a wilding wolf, tearing and rending at the fabric of their everyday lives. Other countries had wrung their hands but hesitated to intervene, whether out of apathetic selfishness or simple fear, for whichever was first among them to oppose the Dark Lord, their peace would be the next target of his terror.
(The bystander effect, thought Harry, thinking of Latane and Darley's experiment which had shown that you were more likely to get help if you had an epileptic fit in front of one person than in front of three. Diffusion of responsibility, everyone hoping that someone else would go first.)
CHAPTER 4
Seigniorage
quote:And can anyone coin them, or are they issued by a monopoly that thereby collects seigniorage?
Arbitrage and the Efficient Market Hypothesis
quote:So not only is the wizarding economy almost completely decoupled from the Muggle economy, no one here has ever heard of arbitrage. The larger Muggle economy had a fluctuating trading range of gold to silver, so every time the Muggle gold-to-silver ratio got more than 5% away from the weight of seventeen Sickles to one Galleon, either gold or silver should have drained from the wizarding economy until it became impossible to maintain the exchange rate. Bring in a ton of silver, change to Sickles (and pay 5%), change the Sickles for Galleons, take the gold to the Muggle world, exchange it for more silver than you started with, and repeat.
Fermi calculation
quote:"It's a mathematical thing. Named after Enrico Fermi. A way of getting rough numbers quickly in your head..."
Twenty gold Galleons weighed a tenth of a kilogram, maybe? And gold was, what, ten thousand British pounds a kilogram? So a Galleon would be worth about fifty pounds... The mounds of gold coins looked to be about sixty coins high and twenty coins wide in either dimension of the base, and a mound was pyramidal, so it would be around one-third of the cube. Eight thousand Galleons per mound, roughly, and there were around five mounds of that size, so forty thousand Galleons or 2 million pounds sterling.
Yes. Defined with example
CHAPTER 5
Fundamental attribution error
quote:the fundamental attribution error is that we explain by permanent, enduring traits what would be better explained by circumstance and context."
CHAPTER 6
Natural language understanding - Bad Science
quote:How can [the bag of holding] know that 'bag of 115 Galleons' is okay but not 'bag of 90 plus 25 Galleons'? It can count but it can't add? It can understand nouns, but not some noun phrases that mean the same thing? The person who made this probably didn't speak Japanese and I don't speak any Hebrew, so it's not using their knowledge, and it's not using my knowledge -" Harry waved a hand helplessly. "The rules seem sorta consistent but they don't mean anything! I'm not even going to ask how a pouch ends up with voice recognition and natural language understanding
The planning fallacy - Bad Science
quote:reality usually delivers results a little worse than the 'worst-case scenario'. It's called the planning fallacy
Bayes' Theorem - Bad Science
quote:Bayes's Theorem said that any reasonable hypothesis which made it more likely than a thousand-to-one that he'd end up with the brother to the Dark Lord's wand, was going to have an advantage.
CHAPTER 7
Naming schema - Bad Science
quote:"I'll call you Mr. Silver."
"You get away from... from Mr. Gold," Ron said coldly, and took a forward step. "He doesn't need to talk to the likes of you!"
Harry raised a placating hand. "I'll go by Mr. Bronze, thanks for the naming schema.
Not actually a naming schema.
Reciprocation theory
quote:My own books called it reciprocation and they talk about how giving someone a straight gift of two Sickles was found to be twice as effective as offering them twenty Sickles in getting them to do what you want
Yes. Defined with example.
CHAPTER 8
Quark Names - Bad Science
quote:name the six quarks or tell me where to find Hermione Granger.
"Up, down, strange, charm, truth, beauty, and why are you looking for her?"
Confirmation bias - Bad Science
quote:"What you've just discovered is called 'positive bias'," said the boy. "You had a rule in your mind, and you kept on thinking of triplets that should make the rule say 'Yes'. But you didn't try to test any triplets that should make the rule say 'No'. In fact you didn't get a single 'No', so 'any three numbers' could have just as easily been the rule.
Bystander apathy
quote:I think there were some people in the crowd who wanted to interfere at first, but bystander apathy held them off at least until they saw what we were doing, and then I think they were all too confused to do anything.
Desensitisation therapy - Bad Science
quote:[Harry, Fred, and George bullying Neville] Finally he said in this tiny little whisper 'go away' so the three of us all screamed and ran off, shrieking something about the light burning us. Hopefully he won't be as scared of being bullied in the future. That's called desensitisation therapy, by the way.
Desensitization therapy is the training of a practiced relaxation response in to a phobic stimulus and gradually increasing the stimulus hierarchy. The point of the therapy is to train a non-panic response to whatever the phobia. Scaring the crap out of someone isn't useful if they aren't trying to control themselves and train another reaction. Most charitably you might call this a sort of attempted classical conditioning. But really this is just bullying, plain and simple. British spelling used.
Consequentialism
quote:That's called consequentialism, by the way, it means that whether an act is right or wrong isn't determined by whether it looks bad, or mean, or anything like that, the only question is how it will turn out in the end - what are the consequences
Bonus weirdness: Draco rape threats, Enlightenment culture superiority
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CHAPTER 9
Speciation and hybrids - Bad Science
quote:You can't just mix two different species together and get viable offspring! It ought to scramble the genetic instructions for every organ that's different between the two species
CHAPTER 10
No science. su3su2u1 makes an argument that blackmailing the sorting hat is nonsensical.
CHAPTER 11
No Science. Filler chapters
CHAPTER 12
Confirmation Bias - Bad Science
quote:that meant that as soon as he learned a spell to temporarily alter his own sense of humor, he could make anything happen, by making it so that he would only find that one thing surprising enough to do a spit-take, and then drinking a can of Comed-Tea.
CHAPTER 13
No science. Assuming time travel self consistency mechanics to be magical and part of setting.
CHAPTER 14
Time-reversal and antimatter - Bad Science
quote:time-reversed ordinary matter looks just like antimatter
The Feynman-Stueckelberg Interpretation does posit that anti-matter can be viewed as time-reversed matter, su3su2u1 has a nice writeup. Generally this due to an underlying CP symmetry. Specifically, time reversal is implied by the underlying charge conjugation parity symmetry--matter and mirror-image (parity reversed) anti-matter should behave identically. CP symmetry appears to hold for the strong force, though exactly WHY remains an open problem.
However CP symmetry violations , and therefore time reversal violations, have been experimentally demonstrated in some kaons and muons, most notably in the Nobel winning work by Chronin and Fitch. The recent BaBar experiments clearly identify time reversal violations in B mesons and anti-B mesons. Given the CP violations at the electroweak scale and the open Strong CP problem, stating 'time-reversed ordinary matter looks just like antimatter' appears a pedantic excuse to showoff quantum dynamics and anti-matter explosion trivia and not strictly accurate.
Anti-matter explosions
quote:one kilogram of antimatter encountering one kilogram of matter will annihilate in an explosion equivalent to 43 million tons of TNT
Explosion blast radius - Bad Science
quote:I myself weigh 41 kilograms and that the resulting blast [of 41 kg of anti-matter] would leave A GIANT SMOKING CRATER WHERE THERE USED TO BE SCOTLAND
Anthropic principle - Bad Science
quote:"And it doesn't, say, create a paradox that destroys the universe."
She smiled tolerantly. "Mr. Potter, I think I'd remember hearing if that had ever happened."
"THAT IS NOT REASSURING! HAVEN'T YOU PEOPLE EVER HEARD OF THE ANTHROPIC PRINCIPLE?
Turing Computability - Bad Science
quote:You know right up until this moment I had this awful suppressed thought somewhere in the back of my mind that the only remaining answer was that my whole universe was a computer simulation like in the book Simulacron 3 but now even that is ruled out because this little toy ISN'T TURING COMPUTABLE!
Confirmation Bias - Bad Science
quote:"SO THAT'S HOW THE COMED-TEA WORKS! Of course! The spell doesn't force funny events to happen, it just makes you feel an impulse to drink right before funny things are going to happen anyway
Still not good for Yud/Harry. Looking worse than before!
Bonus weirdness: Oriental wise man stereotypes
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