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Chamale posted:I made an extremely similar deck back in 2011 (and posted about it), I think my build was better because it can win the game on turn 3 if it gets the Fluctuator. I don't like the Ancient Tombs and Careful Study, they get it in the way. My build's only cards without Cycling 2 were Fluctuator, one Lab Maniac, and one Cavern of Souls. Doesn't the deck just fold completely to Force of Will?
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doesn't every deck a goon makes?
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Aug 26, 2015 16:33
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Hell, it folds to Counterspell or Negate or Spell Pierce since you can't go off turn 1.black potus posted:doesn't every deck a goon makes? Breakfast Burrito at least has the ability to run maindeck Pact of Negation.
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Aug 26, 2015 16:38
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The neat thing is that if you stick fluctuator you can tutor for hate cards at instant speed. Angelsong and miscalculation are real. I also beat triple path once just by having extra cards in hand. It's not a good deck, but its 10 dollars on modo and fun to troll 2 man's with.
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Aug 26, 2015 16:43
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If they counter lab maniac, tutor up the graveyard spell and get him back. Once your whole deck has been filtered through, they'd need more than a single force to stop you. Right?
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always be closing posted:Modo leagues coming tonight. Anyone for a pauper league? They're just putting in the coding for it, not the actual launch of leagues.
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Aug 26, 2015 16:54
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Angry Grimace posted:They're just putting in the coding for it, not the actual launch of leagues. Calling it now: Doing this will break at least one card. Even though what they're doing shouldn't touch cards at all it will still manage to break one (or more).
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Entropic posted:Hell, it folds to Counterspell or Negate or Spell Pierce since you can't go off turn 1. can't this have pact of negation as well? seems like if you stick fluctuator you win on the spot. Hell, if you take out the toads and put in something like Rebuild or Pendrell Drake you've got more than enough cards to run force
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A big flaming stink posted:can't this have pact of negation as well? seems like if you stick fluctuator you win on the spot. The more non-cycling cards you have in the deck, the more cards you have to have in your hand to go off without fizzling. And you're probably mulliganing the first hand without Fluctuator.
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You also need to untap with Fluctuator because you can cycle your whole deck but still need 3 mana to cast the Lab Maniac
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Fluctuator combo is ancient as gently caress and the deck is pretty much identical, except instead of killing with Songs of the Damned + any drain life effect now it just needs to cast Unearth. It still has all the same problems that the deck had from before.Boco_T posted:You also need to untap with Fluctuator because you can cycle your whole deck but still need 3 mana to cast the Lab Maniac You can unearth lab man.
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Ultima66 posted:You can unearth lab man.
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black potus posted:doesn't every deck a goon makes? Boseiju is a staple card in all of my various unbeatable Hidetsugu's Second Rite decks
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Boco_T posted:How do you get him in the graveyard when he's the 44th card in the deck or whatever? Like I get you can do that if they counter, I just mean the first time.
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Boco_T posted:How do you get him in the graveyard when he's the 44th card in the deck or whatever? Like I get you can do that if they counter, I just mean the first time. In the original list that was posted: You can dig to Petal + Careful Study + Lab Maniac as soon as you land Fluctuator. In Chamale's list: There isn't a way but it seems to be able to play a longer game and has Cavern of Souls to make Maniac uncounterable.
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Cernunnos posted:In the original list that was posted: You can dig to Petal + Careful Study + Lab Maniac as soon as you land Fluctuator. That's right, and Unearth can pick him up if he gets Thoughtseized out of your hand at some point. Entropic posted:Doesn't the deck just fold completely to Force of Will? You're talking to the co-inventor of Breakfast Burrito. Also, I won a game 1 against Force of Will when my unprepared opponent read Fluctuator and let it resolved. Opponent punts are my favourite thing about rogue decks.
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Aug 26, 2015 18:03
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GeneX posted:The new story is bad. This is because this writer is terrible. I hate the new stories. While the old ones gave disconnected bits of flavor, these are just boring filler battle bullshit that makes my eyes glaze over.
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Aug 26, 2015 18:06
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I hate when we always talk about how bad the stories are every time one gets posted. It constantly reminds me that spoiler season isn't here yet.
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Aug 26, 2015 18:21
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Anyone playing in the Invitational?
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Aug 26, 2015 18:33
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One of my decks will be there!
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mcmagic posted:Anyone playing in the Invitational? I'm going to the open that weekend, I'm not skilled enough for the Invitational.
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Aug 26, 2015 18:40
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mcmagic posted:Anyone playing in the Invitational? I have family obligations on saturday so I can't play in the Invitational. I'll be there Sunday playing in some side events or possibly the modern event though.
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Count Bleck posted:I'm going to the open that weekend, I'm not skilled enough for the Invitational. I'll probably be joining you in the very likely event that I scrub out day 1 of the Invi...
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mcmagic posted:I'll probably be joining you in the very likely event that I scrub out day 1 of the Invi... All jokes about your card evaluation skills aside, good luck.
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GeneX posted:The new story is bad. This is because this writer is terrible. Bonus points for a thallid with a spark.
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GeneX posted:All jokes about your card evaluation skills aside, good luck. Thanks.
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Aug 26, 2015 19:02
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Yawgmoth posted:With any luck they use this as an excuse to kill her off and put literally any other green mage in the "iconic green planeswalker" slot. Bad news if you think any of the walkers in Origins will ever die in the story
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Skyl3lazer posted:Bad news if you think any of the walkers in Origins will ever die in the story But if Jace dies we get Tammy Moonsocks!
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Yawgmoth posted:With any luck they use this as an excuse to kill her off and put literally any other green mage in the "iconic green planeswalker" slot. There's only 2 mono green walkers to begin with (that are alive). Garruk can't come back because he's evul now. Also, I didn't see it posted a couple days back, but a week ago or so I posted that Tutelage was a terrible deck that just bombed a tournament because no one knew what to do against it. MTGGoldfish did an analysis of ~56,000 games of Standard post Origins and found that UR Tutelage's win% is 37%, despite being in the top 5 played decks. http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/meta-snapshot-magic-origins-standard-aug-2015 quote:Remember how I said that drawing cards with UR Tutelage Mill wins you games? Apparently this isn't true very often. The deck is — by far — the worst performing deck out of the ten most played decks in our sample coming in at a lowly 36.88 match win percentage. In fact, UR Tutelage Mill is one of the worst five performing decks in our entire sample. It's that bad. Also, your chances of winning a match are about 10% better if you win the die roll (in Standard). Play less taplands, I guess. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Aug 26, 2015 |
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Count Bleck posted:But if Jace dies we get Tammy Moonsocks! Tammy taking over as the Face Of Blue planeswalker is about as likely a Return To Kamigawa block.
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Angry Grimace posted:There's only 2 mono green walkers to begin with (that are alive). Garruk can't come back because he's evul now.
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Yawgmoth posted:And they can't make a new green planeswalker because Hippy and big burly guy. What else is there to do with our two dimensional type heroes?
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Yawgmoth posted:And they can't make a new green planeswalker because Maro says they want to make less new dudes.
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Angry Grimace posted:Maro says they want to make less new dudes. So Maro says they want to make more new ladies?
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Ramos posted:Hippy and big burly guy. What else is there to do with our two dimensional type heroes? Dryad orTreefolk planeswalker....it's the obvious choice.
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I'm just hoping they go for something interesting with Gideon that doesn't feel like a completely generic rehash of previous Gideons. Something along the lines of Gideon Jura (ROE/M12) would feel an awful lot like Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker does which isn't rotating.
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The Nastier Nate posted:Dryad orTreefolk planeswalker....it's the obvious choice. That sounds rough on the movie's CGI budget.
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm just hoping they go for something interesting with Gideon that doesn't feel like a completely generic rehash of previous Gideons. Something along the lines of Gideon Jura (ROE/M12) would feel an awful lot like Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker does which isn't rotating. They're making a conscious effort to make each planeswalker have a mechanical identity. I'd be extremely surprised if Gideon didn't get up and punch dudes himself, that's what he does.
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I like how MTGO downtime has gone back to being World of Warcraft Patch Day every single week.Lets Pickle posted:That spoiled Gideon looks obvious and bland enough to be real. Gideon, Ally of Zendikar is the name of the spoiled art. Standing there posing is pretty much every PW art, really.
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