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I just noticed that the K-Wing model has turbofan engines. It's a spacecraft. 
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If I remember my nerdy childhood reading habits, that weapon was indeed defeated by the mighty force of cheap non-union labor. I don't think the good guys even had a hand in it. It's poo poo like this that makes me glad the Disney canon nuked everything Kevin Anderson wrote in the setting.
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Aug 26, 2015 19:52
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grassy gnoll posted:Wasn't Darksaber written to be a story about how a superweapon built by the lowest bidder turns out to be poo poo? Pretty much. Even in later EU books, the Hutts would comment on how the Darksaber was a friggen dumb idea.
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Aug 26, 2015 20:06
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Tekopo posted:Sheev is a good name, right? What are you talking about? His name is Palpy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBEdgPFoBjY&t=495s
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Aug 26, 2015 20:11
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If we're talking about EU ships and goofy TIE variants, what about the Clawcraft?
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Aug 26, 2015 21:56
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Archenteron posted:If we're talking about EU ships and goofy TIE variants, what about the Clawcraft? That cockpit view would make parallel parking impossible
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Aug 26, 2015 22:12
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Aug 26, 2015 22:25
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parabolic posted:
Looks kind of chunky for a Star Wing. Wait, is that a chopped up shuttle?
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Aug 26, 2015 22:31
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 Now I know y'all ain't forgetting about my homeboy the TYE-Wing when we're talking adorably stupid looking things. TARDISman fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Aug 27, 2015 00:22
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So when are they going to make Yuuzhon Vong ships
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Aug 27, 2015 00:51
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TARDISman posted:
this owns. the YV-666 and K-Wing are completely ruining my storage scheme 
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Aug 27, 2015 00:51
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It combines all the lack of shields of a TIE Fighter and all the lack of speed of a Y-Wing! The most tactically superior ship!
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Aug 27, 2015 00:53
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Y-Wings and TIEs make the best uglies.   Y-wings being poo poo was a dumb EU thing, they had a decent showing in the OT and kicked rear end in The Clone Wars cartoon.
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Aug 27, 2015 00:56
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It's not even an EU thing, it's a "NPCs make passing bitchy comments in some of the video games" thing, really. Y-wings were always outdated but respectable ships that used to be the Rebels' main fighter until they developed dedicated space superiority craft and the Y-wings was relegated to fighter-bomber duties. There's a reason why they're referred to as "the workhorse of the Rebel Alliance."
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Aug 27, 2015 01:13
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I always liked the idea that Y-wings had the best straight-line speed, which is why they went into the trench first. But I recall them being slow as hell in the X-wing games which is too bad. It was so easy to vaporize TIEs with those chin mounted lasers though  parabolic posted:
That is fuckin rad. Is that a new one? I don't recall seeing any of the old kitbashes/shapeways looking this good.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:32
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yellowjournalism posted:It was so easy to vaporize TIEs with those chin mounted lasers though Why not just use the Ions? It takes 4 laser bolt hits to kill a TIE, but only two ion bolt hits to disable, at which point they spontaneously self-destruct. I felt so clever when I discovered that as a kid.
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Aug 27, 2015 05:36
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yellowjournalism posted:I always liked the idea that Y-wings had the best straight-line speed, which is why they went into the trench first. But I recall them being slow as hell in the X-wing games which is too bad. It was so easy to vaporize TIEs with those chin mounted lasers though Oh, thanks, I made it out of a shuttle and plastic tubing. I've even played it at a couple local tournaments as a doomsaw. I know it's the wrong scale, but it was a fun afternoon build either way.
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Sorry to derail this ugly starship chat, but I was hoping you could give me some ideas on which expansions I should get next. As I mentioned earlier, I am totally a casual player and it seems none of my friends will be buying their own squadrons despite liking the game. Therefore, I have to collect both Rebel and Imperial while trying to cater for different playstyles to keep the game interesting and make all kinds of squadron builds possible. Here is my current collection: 2 x Core Set Rebel Aces Millenium Falcon X-Wing TIE Advanced Slave I Imperial Aces I have printed out proxy cards for Howlrunner and Soontir Fel. My next confirmed purchase will be the TIE Phantom, but from that point on, I am not sure which expansions would give us more options. YT-2400? Decimator?
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I don't know how someone could say the Assault Gunboat doesn't fit with Imperial ship aesthetics just because it doesn't have TIE panels. It's almost literally a miniature Lambda with the folding wings removed and replaced by fixed wings. The warhead racks even correspond to the pivots where the folding wings connect on the Lambda. Gunboat LambdaThe canopy is different but the general aesthetic is very similar.
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Kanos posted:I don't know how someone could say the Assault Gunboat doesn't fit with Imperial ship aesthetics just because it doesn't have TIE panels. It's almost literally a miniature Lambda with the folding wings removed and replaced by fixed wings. The warhead racks even correspond to the pivots where the folding wings connect on the Lambda.
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These Loving Eyes posted:Sorry to derail this ugly starship chat, but I was hoping you could give me some ideas on which expansions I should get next. As I mentioned earlier, I am totally a casual player and it seems none of my friends will be buying their own squadrons despite liking the game. Therefore, I have to collect both Rebel and Imperial while trying to cater for different playstyles to keep the game interesting and make all kinds of squadron builds possible. Here is my current collection: Personally I love my E-Wing and TIE Defenders, although both are a bit on the pricey end in game.
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Kanos posted:I don't know how someone could say the Assault Gunboat doesn't fit with Imperial ship aesthetics just because it doesn't have TIE panels. It's almost literally a miniature Lambda with the folding wings removed and replaced by fixed wings. The warhead racks even correspond to the pivots where the folding wings connect on the Lambda. I think the Gunboat looks just fine along side Empire's others ships. It, along with the Defender and other TIE's created in the EU, hold up the Empire's proud design decision to just keep adding wings.
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Aug 27, 2015 14:58
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Honestly, a lot of the tie fighter variants look pretty stupid. I thought the same thing about the phantom until I bought the expansion, and now it's my favourite ship to fly. 
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Aug 27, 2015 15:38
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Aug 27, 2015 16:02
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Aug 27, 2015 16:04
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Aug 27, 2015 16:16
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The Hunter, Vanguard, Droid and Clawcraft are just about the only EU designs in that list that don't look like completely unimaginative rear end.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:24
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Those are all pretty stupid, but the TIE experimental MK 1 is a special kind of stupid.
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Aug 27, 2015 16:31
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It's a drone ship 
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i am not up on the fake mechanics of how the TIE craft actually operate, but do they need the wings to fly in space? I vaguely remember something about the wings being solar panels (or some sort of equivalent). So in space, couldn't the fighter just be the ball, and be a lot harder to hit?
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Aug 27, 2015 16:50
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Why wouldn't they need solar panels in space? And yeah, they are solar panels.
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Orvin posted:i am not up on the fake mechanics of how the TIE craft actually operate, but do they need the wings to fly in space? I vaguely remember something about the wings being solar panels (or some sort of equivalent). So in space, couldn't the fighter just be the ball, and be a lot harder to hit? We know they're not solar panels because all the EU garbage that said they were got thrown out and the First Order paints them white which would make them reflect solar energy. I've always been partial to the idea that they're radiators for bleeding off heat buildup.
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Yeah I always imagined them to be radiators attached to a super fast engine that made a lot of heat. They couldn't have shields cuz that would've been even hotter and movie-wise the deflectors didn't do much anyway.
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Tekopo posted:Why wouldn't they need solar panels in space? And yeah, they are solar panels. While I will go along with the "battles in deep space never happen" hand waving, you still never know how strong the star in a system will be, or how far away from it you will be. There is a lot less solar energy out by Saturn than there is here by Earth. Or what happens when the fighting is on the night side of a planet? This tells me that there is a sizable energy (or fuel) reserve, so why not eliminate the huge targets on the side, and just use the core cockpit to make them even more manuverable and harder to hit?
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mst3k mantra. Why do the xwings have wings at all, let alone 4? Why are the aerodynamic when no other Rebel fighter really is.
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bunnyofdoom posted:mst3k mantra. Why do the xwings have wings at all, let alone 4? Why are the aerodynamic when no other Rebel fighter really is. I always assumed they were less about flight characteristics and more about putting distance between the laser cannons and the fuselage, either to widen the spread of fire or cooling purposes or both. Or because the whole dogfight scene in ANH is based on WWII planes with wings and George Lucas is not creative.
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Aug 27, 2015 18:36
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bunnyofdoom posted:mst3k mantra. Why do the xwings have wings at all, let alone 4? Why are the aerodynamic when no other Rebel fighter really is. They are for holding big guns and engines 
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Obama 2012 posted:I always assumed they were less about flight characteristics and more about putting distance between the laser cannons and the fuselage, either to widen the spread of fire or cooling purposes or both. Well, it was meant to feel like the WW2 air combat, I don't think it has anything to do with lack of creativity. It's space opera, not hard sci fi. WW2 and Korea are really the only large conflicts that had significant air-to-air combat before missiles took over for guns as the main weapon. And WW2 is significantly more well known. Also, you generally want the guns on a plane as close to the center as possible, so that convergence isn't as big a deal. The only reason most WW2 planes have them on the wings was space restrictions since the engine was usually in the nose, and that made mounting guns there tricky.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Why not just use the Ions? It takes 4 laser bolt hits to kill a TIE, but only two ion bolt hits to disable, at which point they spontaneously self-destruct. I felt so clever when I discovered that as a kid. Ahhhh memoriesssss yeahhh I would just switch between lasers and ions as they ran out so I could keep more power to engines. Both the chin lasers and the BTL ion loving ruled. God drat I loved flying that truck around. parabolic posted:Oh, thanks, I made it out of a shuttle and plastic tubing. I've even played it at a couple local tournaments as a doomsaw. I know it's the wrong scale, but it was a fun afternoon build either way. it's beautiful  make me one i'll suck your dick in space
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