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Shiiit, 1.13 is going to obliterate my saves isn't it. I guess I'll start another Russia run.
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Pellisworth posted:I would hang onto Portugal as they're your super contented little Brotugal who will never rebel as a March and will happily colonize for you. Mine stuck strictly to Africa and SE Asia while I monopolized the New World, I integrated them in the late 1600s when most of the colonization is over. But then you inherit their colonial nations which are the wrong color. This is a sin in the eyes of God. 
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Aug 27, 2015 00:05
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Fintilgin posted:But then you inherit their colonial nations which are the wrong color. This is what save editing is for 
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Aug 27, 2015 00:12
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PittTheElder posted:You shouldn't need to. The Conquest CB lets you take every claim for free, so as long as you forge claims on all three provinces, you're good to go. Is that the trick now? I have to claim all three provinces beforehand? I get the Conquest CB that lets me go to war without the stability hit, obviously, but I never thought anything different. Back when I got the game Castile automatically had a core on those parcels of land.
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Aug 27, 2015 00:14
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Ojetor posted:There's an event that can trigger that forces conversion on muslim provinces at the cost of hefty penalties to local manpower and tax. It also fires inconsistently. At some point my take over of North Africa gets difficult as gently caress due to the overextension. Too much OE and you run risk of civil war.
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Aug 27, 2015 00:16
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Don't conquer North Africa, it's next to useless anyway. At most you want just the ports with their Trade Power modifiers.Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Is that the trick now? I have to claim all three provinces beforehand? I get the Conquest CB that lets me go to war without the stability hit, obviously, but I never thought anything different. Back when I got the game Castile automatically had a core on those parcels of land. Yeah, fabricate a claim on all three, and then you won't need to pay any diplomatic points to take them in a peace deal.
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Aug 27, 2015 00:31
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Fintilgin posted:But then you inherit their colonial nations which are the wrong color. Can't you change that now with the new subject interactions screen?
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Aug 27, 2015 00:46
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Is that the trick now? I have to claim all three provinces beforehand? I get the Conquest CB that lets me go to war without the stability hit, obviously, but I never thought anything different. Back when I got the game Castile automatically had a core on those parcels of land. There's a mission you can take that gives you claims
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Aug 27, 2015 01:41
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Dibujante posted:Can't you change that now with the new subject interactions screen? I... don't know. I remember reading that you could rename them, but I don't know if there is a color reset? Haven't played serious colonial power game since the latest patch. (Because Etrian Odyssey 3 is consuming my life...  )
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Aug 27, 2015 01:44
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Fintilgin posted:But then you inherit their colonial nations which are the wrong color. I have no idea why, but in my most recent Spain run (this beta patch), march Portugal did not touch the New World colonial regions whatsoever. I think it must have partly been AI, since they colonized most of the African coast and then went for Southeast Asia (grabbing Georgia, Galapagos which aren't part of colonial regions).
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Aug 27, 2015 01:54
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Pellisworth posted:I have no idea why, but in my most recent Spain run (this beta patch), march Portugal did not touch the New World colonial regions whatsoever. I think it must have partly been AI, since they colonized most of the African coast and then went for Southeast Asia (grabbing Georgia, Galapagos which aren't part of colonial regions). At this point I would pay $10 just for a DLC that said "Portugal you go to Brazil and India, Spain, you colonize the Caribbean, Mexico, La Plata, Peru, Colombia.". A big issue for me is that AI Portugal will always pick up Exploration and Expansion ideas back to back, meaning they swarm all over the place colonizing stuff with the same colonist count as Spain. Honestly they should get Explorers and Conquistadors as part of their national traditions (rather than Norway who has it in their ideas because?) and then they could skip Explo and go do cool Indian Ocean stuff instead.
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Aug 27, 2015 03:15
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Yashichi posted:There's a mission you can take that gives you claims I should have said admin points earlier, not diplo. You used to start with a core on each of those provinces. Now you don't and you have to spend admin points to core them. My trek into North Africa was mainly to get that one gold producing province.
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Aug 27, 2015 03:19
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Fintilgin posted:But then you inherit their colonial nations which are the wrong color. Every CN should be a distinct color on the map which contrasts sharply with all its neighbors, even other CNs of the same parent country.
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Aug 27, 2015 03:31
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Ofaloaf posted:The only wrong color for colonial nations is the default one. You should be able to customize it at least. It's kind of annoying how you have all this control over Client States but it doesn't exist for CNs because they're an older mechanic that I guess nobody ever bothered to update. Also a subject interaction to pay for their colonists and nothing else would be nice. I hate subsidizing my CNs in the hopes to get them to use those colonists and they just waste it all on forts or a bigger army or something.
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Aug 27, 2015 03:56
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Colonial nations really do seem to be a neglected vassal mechanic. Playing as a colonial power is almost boring since you're basically just painting the grey your color and not much else.
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Aug 27, 2015 04:05
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Colonies have come a long way, but I think there's so much more they could do with them. I'd like a DLC focused entirely on interactions with, enhanced mechanics, and events regarding your colonial states. Maybe even some unique ones for the major different colonial regions (St. Lawrence is different from Brazil etc).
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Aug 27, 2015 04:24
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I mean that was Conquest of Paradise basically. They definitely need to catch up in some mechanics but I think colonial nations are still the most interesting client states just by nature of how volatile they are.
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Aug 27, 2015 04:32
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Koramei posted:I mean that was Conquest of Paradise basically. They definitely need to catch up in some mechanics but I think colonial nations are still the most interesting client states just by nature of how volatile they are. Its freaking annoying that instead of fighting Natives they waste all their energy fighting your closest ally's colonies, and usually not your rivals. It's also annoying that instead of just forcing your CN to peace out, you have to join the war and now France is the war leader and they have a full Length of War modifier so it's fight a 20 year hellwar or give up half your nation
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Aug 27, 2015 06:54
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pls don't conquer portugal as Castille tia
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Aug 27, 2015 07:28
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Do you gain control of CNs when you diplo-annex a vassal... I'm pretty sure they gain independence if they already exist when you vassalize someone, but I've never had a colonizing vassal and I have no clue what happens
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Aug 27, 2015 08:23
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Wait, Colonial nations declare wars without your consent? I've never had that happen during my Portugal came and I had like 5 colonial nations.
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Aug 27, 2015 09:40
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Zettace posted:Wait, Colonial nations declare wars without your consent? I've never had that happen during my Portugal came and I had like 5 colonial nations. Yes. And if the enemy mother country enforces peace, and your CN doesn't accept, both mother countries are at war with each other. It gave me a nice excuse as Portugal to completely take over Iberia.
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Aug 27, 2015 11:06
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https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-27th-of-august-2015.878887/quote:So what have we done lately? Well, plenty of stuff that will go into 1.14 and the next expansion. Lots of stuff we are not ready to talk about yet, but this week we'll give you information about some new systems.
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Aug 27, 2015 14:10
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1.13 proper is live now.differences to beta posted:# Diplomacy Sorced fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Aug 27, 2015 14:43
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Great, broke the saves 
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Aug 27, 2015 15:43
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Pyromancer posted:Great, broke the saves Oh god no. I was well into an excellent Bengal game. And I probably can't rollback because I was using a beta patch.
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Aug 27, 2015 15:47
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Oh god no. I was well into an excellent Bengal game. My 1.13 beta ironman save works just fine, I guess it only breaks 1.12 saves?
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Aug 27, 2015 16:10
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Mygna posted:My 1.13 beta ironman save works just fine, I guess it only breaks 1.12 saves? Fingers crossed. Thanks for trying to unruin my week. Edit: Update: 1.13 beta patch is compatible! Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Aug 27, 2015 16:42
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Welp, definitely breaks saves from the last stable version. There foes my Ottoman game... [edit] Well, just rolled back using the beta option. Can you still get achievements when you do that? Munin fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Aug 27, 2015 17:21
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Munin posted:Welp, definitely breaks saves from the last stable version. There foes my Ottoman game... I rolled back to 1.12. My Cathottomans game is going way too well. Reformation in 1500, Emperor has passed everything but Landfrieden, despite me taking Vienna - this is going to turn into a stupidly fast HRE run unless he manages to Landfrieden before the wars of religion destroy his authority.
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Aug 27, 2015 17:31
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Large nations now get more AE (based on total development). shiiiiit
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Aug 27, 2015 17:46
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Large nations now get more AE (based on total development). I wonder if this will slow down Ming at all. They have over 1000 development at the start date.
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Dibujante posted:I rolled back to 1.12. My Cathottomans game is going way too well. Reformation in 1500, Emperor has passed everything but Landfrieden, despite me taking Vienna - this is going to turn into a stupidly fast HRE run unless he manages to Landfrieden before the wars of religion destroy his authority. How do you roll stuff back? I was finally having a good Austria ironman game for a change: Reformation was very soft and easy to counter, inherited Bavaria, then PU'd both Bohemia and Hungary, chomped half of France and all of Venices by 1600....and then the patch hits.
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Aug 27, 2015 18:06
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Sephyr posted:How do you roll stuff back? I was finally having a good Austria ironman game for a change: Reformation was very soft and easy to counter, inherited Bavaria, then PU'd both Bohemia and Hungary, chomped half of France and all of Venices by 1600....and then the patch hits. Patch Notes posted:- No longer possible to seize colonies outside of coring range. Patch Notes posted:- You can no longer create vassals-of-vassals by demanding the capital of an enemy overlord country for your vassal as a part of annexation deal (instead enemy overlord's vassal becomes yours). Dibujante fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Aug 27, 2015 18:08
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Top Hats Monthly posted:Large nations now get more AE (based on total development). I completed a 1.13 beta one tag WC with the Ottomans and was able to avoid coalitions for all but a part of the midgame - this was before they added some beneficial changes in the final patch, such as moving coalition min requirement to -50. It's not as bad as it sounds.
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Larry Parrish posted:Do you gain control of CNs when you diplo-annex a vassal... I'm pretty sure they gain independence if they already exist when you vassalize someone, but I've never had a colonizing vassal and I have no clue what happens You do get their CNs. Bonus points if both you and your vassal had CNs in the same region. In my Castile->Spain game where I diploannexed Portugal in the late 1600s, doubled-up colonial nations have me at 24 merchants and could get significantly more if I wanted.
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Dibujante posted:It's under the "betas" section in the game properties in Steam. You can westernise very quickly as Ming by going towards Genoas cores in Crimea. Your so powerful that you can just power straight through the hordes. Quickly being about 100 years but that's probably how long it would take for the tech difference to appear anyway since Ming tend to keep up fairly well.
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Donald Duck posted:You can westernise very quickly as Ming by going towards Genoas cores in Crimea. Your so powerful that you can just power straight through the hordes. I'll have to try that, especially now that Ming starts wtih tech 3. Westernizing off of Portuguese colonies was really nice because you could sometimes complete it by 1520. Alas.
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The new patch made the HRE quite a lot more volatile in my game. Austria lost the title of emperor to Saxony, who completely failed in all of their duties, and the HRE turned into a thunderdome. Honorary mentions go to Friesland expanding and contracting about four times until I put them out of their misery, Oldenburg conquering Denmark (sadly, a bunch of rebels claimed independence less than a decade later) Sami in Scandinavia, Finland, and Savoy conquering all of Saxony (the emperor) and forcing them to release all of their lands, thereby resurrecting Burgundy and some other HRE members. And this is at the turn of the 16th century. Oh, and Venice lost Venice to Ferrara quite early on as well.
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Deltasquid posted:The new patch made the HRE quite a lot more volatile in my game. Austria lost the title of emperor to Saxony, who completely failed in all of their duties, and the HRE turned into a thunderdome. Paradox Sweden Bias (tm) will rectify the Scandinavian problem in no time.
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