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Spaceman Future! posted:I think you may be severely misjudging why west virginia didnt want to vote for Obama A convicted felon got 41% of the vote in the 2012 primary against Obama.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the morning, "I've seen oil developed next to peoples' houses. People can live and co-exist with oil wells without trashing the environment." ~ Rand Paul. I've... seen things... you people wouldn't believe. Oil wells on fire off the shoulder of a residential drive; I watched bitcoins glitter in the dark near the Silk Road... All those... moments... will be lost, in time, like [chokes up] gold... in... the dollar. Time... to die.
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Fracking causes all kinds of health problems actually, i visited lots of fracking areas in western colorado. Screw anyone who believes its safe
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As The Trump gains power, Second 538 reveals itself to the Galaxy.
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The Nastier Nate posted:
I don't know and I don't even care. Come election day, if Bernie is the candidate, any Republican they nominate will win; by a huge margin.
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Spaceman Future! posted:I think you may be severely misjudging why west virginia didnt want to vote for Obama It was not lost on me.
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Dahbadu posted:It's not going to swing anything, but it's indicative to the larger problem, the problem that Hillary Clinton is not very likable (despite what meaningless favorability metrics tell you). I mean, just open your eyes. How can you not see this? I like how you just keep offering your personal anecdotes as being more reliable than actual polls on her likability.
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HappyHippo posted:I like how you just keep offering your personal anecdotes as being more reliable than actual polls on her likability. I looked at the word salad, did some quick mental extrapolation, took the results of that and combined it with observations and personal experience, realized that the word salad may be correlated with my observations, and stated as such. Then there are a bunch of people that are claiming Hillary is a likable person, despite the fact that her public persona is literally a squirm-inducing running joke on a very good TV show. The reason for these claims, well, favorability numbers of course. Edit: Also, if you would be so kind, please provide me your predictions for the primaries. Dahbadu fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Aug 27, 2015 19:06
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HappyHippo posted:I like how you just keep offering your personal anecdotes as being more reliable than actual polls on her likability. It's weird how anecdotal evidence is usually worthless and polls are scientific, but in this case Comrade Dahbadu's personal anecdotes are obviously much more accurate. People generally don't like Hillary Clinton and if some polls are saying otherwise then they are flawed.
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Doesnt the whole "Bill cheated on her with 5-10 different women during his time in the oval office" thing make her look bad to other women? Like do they respect her or just want to like her because she's a woman politician. Most women voted for Obama anyway in 08 when it came down to it. She got she-cucked, hard, and she's still trying to brush it off.
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NotWearingPants posted:It's weird how anecdotal evidence is usually worthless and polls are scientific, but in this case Comrade Dahbadu's personal anecdotes are obviously much more accurate. Would you say they are... skewed?
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NotWearingPants posted:
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Cantorsdust posted:Would you say they are... skewed? I don't know. I didn't see them. It was proably bad question framing or just the fact "democrat that I've heard of" gets a positive response from low interest democrats this far before an election. The last polls I saw were of battle ground states and Hillary's favorability or likeability or whatever numbers were somewhere around the same as Hitler, except for Ohio where she trailed Hitler by 10 points.
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Aug 27, 2015 19:17
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Tautologicus posted:Do any of you guys know any women on a personal level? Asking for a friend.
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NotWearingPants posted:I don't know. I didn't see them. It was proably bad question framing or just the fact "democrat that I've heard of" gets a positive response from low interest democrats this far before an election. Curt Schilling account spotted
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Spaceman Future! posted:Curt Schilling account spotted That guy who put fake blood capsules in his sock? No thank you.
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NotWearingPants posted:That guy who put fake blood capsules in his sock? No thank you. There is a presidential candidate who publicly repeated that precise claim. That's why I support Lincoln Chafee.
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NotWearingPants posted:Comrade Thanks fellow brother comrade! Also, I really want to make this clear, I am officially of the opinion that polls are useful and Nate Silver is generally good at his job. Here's the deal, math and numbers are cool and awesome and can help you figure things out, but you should try to apply them in context.
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Aug 27, 2015 19:25
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Tautologicus posted:Doesnt the whole "Bill cheated on her with 5-10 different women during his time in the oval office" thing make her look bad to other women? Like do they respect her or just want to like her because she's a woman politician. Most women voted for Obama anyway in 08 when it came down to it. Christian women can relate to "my husband cheated on me but God wants us to work it out" 
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Tautologicus posted:Fracking causes all kinds of health problems actually, i visited lots of fracking areas in western colorado. Screw anyone who believes its safe All resource extraction is horrible for anyone living nearby.
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that feel when you get on an elliptical at a public gym and see a feel the bern sticker on it
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Shifty Pony posted:All resource extraction is horrible for anyone living nearby. *dies from solar panel fumes*
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Tautologicus posted:Doesnt the whole "Bill cheated on her with 5-10 different women during his time in the oval office" thing make her look bad to other women? Like do they respect her or just want to like her because she's a woman politician. Most women voted for Obama anyway in 08 when it came down to it. She-cucked? Really? If anything Bill being a douche helps Hilary since most women are married to horrible people.
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Spaceman Future! posted:*dies from solar panel fumes* RIP, let us celebrate.
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Spaceman Future! posted:I think you may be severely misjudging why west virginia didnt want to vote for Obama How do they feel about the Israelites as a people though? Tautologicus posted:Doesnt the whole "Bill cheated on her with 5-10 different women during his time in the oval office" thing make her look bad to other women? Like do they respect her or just want to like her because she's a woman politician. Most women voted for Obama anyway in 08 when it came down to it. Nobody holds Bill's philandering against her. I mean, there's certainly some people who blame her because obviously she's not doing something right if her man is off with other women, but they don't hold it against her. Besides, we're talking about Bill Clinton, a man who could probably talk Billy Graham into some questionable acts after a few minutes of conversation. Who's going to be mad when they know they'd succumb to his charms in a second? Mighty nice of Hillary to not scare them with the potential vengeance of a scorned women when they happen to get stuck in an elevator with Bill.
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GlyphGryph posted:RIP, let us celebrate. He was a good man, a sexi boi. Gyges posted:How do they feel about the Israelites as a people though? white in a pinch, he should do well there.
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Tautologicus posted:Doesnt the whole "Bill cheated on her with 5-10 different women during his time in the oval office" thing make her look bad to other women? Like do they respect her or just want to like her because she's a woman politician. Most women voted for Obama anyway in 08 when it came down to it. Hillary's favorables soared during that whole ordeal, an opponent bringing it up is probably the best way to consolidate the women's vote around Hillary and would be really dumb move. Which is why I fully expect at least two Republican campaign ads based around it during the general election.
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Dahbadu posted:Here's the deal, math and numbers are cool and awesome and can help you figure things out, but you should try to apply them in context. In this case, you are taking numbers and then throwing them in the trash because you don' think they fit. That's not really the same thing as applying context. Here is an attempt to provide context to Hillary's favorability numbers: There is a large population of old and stiff baby boomer democrats out there who don't necessarily see Hillary's lack of on-camera shine as a problem. This is a group of people who have been voting for establishment democrat candidates their whole life and aren't about to stop. Personally, as a relatively young millennial, watching Hillary is like nails on chalkboard, but the thing that's great about statistics is that they help us see outside our bubble.
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Spaceman Future! posted:*dies from solar panel fumes* Silica mining isnt exactly low environmental impact, and the fabs involved in the production of photovoltaics cannot be run off something as finicky as solar or wind power. Just because it happens in a third world country doesn't mean that the panel doesn't have an environmental impact.
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There are also probably plenty of people out there who don't like Hillary but still are 'favorable' towards her. I would say that describes my feelings toward her pretty well.
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http://theslot.jezebel.com/hillary-clinton-says-republicans-treat-women-kind-of-li-1726959202quote:During a rally in Cleveland on Thursday, Hillary Clinton amped up her usual inoffensive presidential rhetoric when she compared Republicans to ISIS, probably.
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Shifty Pony posted:Silica mining isnt exactly low environmental impact, and the fabs involved in the production of photovoltaics cannot be run off something as finicky as solar or wind power. why would we mine silica when it is readily available in every vending machine pack of beef jerkey egghead?
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Dahbadu posted:I looked at the word salad, did some quick mental extrapolation, took the results of that and combined it with observations and personal experience, realized that the word salad may be correlated with my observations, and stated as such. Then there are a bunch of people that are claiming Hillary is a likable person, despite the fact that her public persona is literally a squirm-inducing running joke on a very good TV show. The reason for these claims, well, favorability numbers of course. Well at least we can agree that Veep is a fine TV show.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:http://theslot.jezebel.com/hillary-clinton-says-republicans-treat-women-kind-of-li-1726959202 I like it.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:http://theslot.jezebel.com/hillary-clinton-says-republicans-treat-women-kind-of-li-1726959202 quote:“I would like these Republican candidates to look a mom in the eye who caught her breast cancer early because she was able to get a screening for cancer, or a teenager who didn’t get pregnant because she had access to contraception,” she continued. Yes, the preventative MRI that cost nothing and was changed to a $2000 diagnostic scan once the cancer results came back
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I think a lot of people posting here are underestimating how moderate voters will react to attack ads on Bernie using the word socialist. If the Republicans start to feel threatened by Bernie, their attacks on him would be brutal. Someone that occasionally votes Republican will be terrified by those ads. Especially the older voters that vote in massive numbers.
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Spacebump posted:I think a lot of people posting here are underestimating how moderate voters will react to attack ads on Bernie using the word socialist. If the Republicans start to feel threatened by Bernie, their attacks on him would be brutal. Someone that occasionally votes Republican will be terrified by those ads. Especially the older voters that vote in massive numbers. Yes, surely such a word has never inundated the airwaves to refer to any Democratic candidate in the past 
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Fuschia tude posted:Yes, surely such a word has never inundated the airwaves to refer to any Democratic candidate in the past Yeah, we've already elected a black Muslim socialist. A white Jewish socialist should be a piece of cake! Edit: black Muslim *Nazi* socialist. Bernie can hardly be called a Nazi either. Cantorsdust fucked around with this message at 20:34 on Aug 27, 2015 |
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Spacebump posted:I think a lot of people posting here are underestimating how moderate voters will react to attack ads on Bernie using the word socialist. If the Republicans start to feel threatened by Bernie, their attacks on him would be brutal. Someone that occasionally votes Republican will be terrified by those ads. Especially the older voters that vote in massive numbers. Remember that everyone who has never heard of Bernie will love him. Everyone who won't like him has already heard of him.
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