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Laughing Man posted:The LA Times recently ran a story about the Child Exploitation Section of the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit, which contained a mind-boggling statistic: of the more than 100 offenders the unit has arrested over the last four years, "all but one" has been "a hard-core Trekkie." https://boingboing.net/2005/04/28/la-times-pedophilia.html "I have now spoken to Detective Ian Lamond of the Child Exploitation Section of the Toronto Sex Crimes Unit and he claims they were misquoted, or if that figure was given it was done so jokingly. Nevertheless, he does claim that a majority of those arrested show "at least a passing interest in Star Trek, if not a strong interest."
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Speaking of screwed up Star Trek fans, remember the story about the German cannibal and the guy he met over the Internet who wanted to be eaten?quote:On the evening of March 9, the two men went up to the bedroom in Meiwes' rambling timbered farmhouse. Mr Brandes swallowed 20 sleeping tablets and half a bottle of schnapps before Meiwes cut off Brandes' penis, with his agreement, and fried it for both of them to eat.
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Aug 27, 2015 19:07
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what the gently caress star trek thread
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Aug 27, 2015 19:24
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Omi-Polari posted:Speaking of screwed up Star Trek fans, remember the story about the German cannibal and the guy he met over the Internet who wanted to be eaten? That whole case was like "what if Hannibal wasn't a gourmand and instead was a goon who doesn't know how to cook and has a freezer full of frozen pizzas."
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Aug 27, 2015 19:28
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Omi-Polari posted:Speaking of screwed up Star Trek fans, remember the story about the German cannibal and the guy he met over the Internet who wanted to be eaten? I think my favorite part is how he literally got thrown in with the leftovers. Holy loving poo poo that story still creeps me out.
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Aug 27, 2015 19:30
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Thread needs more drinkin' kanar with Damar.        
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Aug 27, 2015 20:42
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I can't tell if the Cardassian uniforms are supposed to be rubber or not. I used to think they were metal when I was a kid, but in a bunch of episodes you can see them bend like rubber and it doesn't seem like they're trying to hide it.
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Aug 27, 2015 20:52
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Going back a few pages to the whole "This is how they'd fight a war!" thing, was there ever any documented use of the transporters as weapons? Seems to me you could do a lot of damage with those - beaming explosives directly into the enemy's chest cavity, for example, or just locking onto an enemy, converting their matter into energy and beaming that energy wholesale into the middle of an enemy ship for maximum explosive fun (there must be a whole lot of energy buried in the atoms of a humanoid body). You could literally use enemy soldiers as ammunition to blow up their comrades! Not really the Federation's style, admittedly, but wouldn't the Romulans and Cardassians at least attempt that sort of thing? Sorry to interrupt cannibal-pedo talk, by the way 
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Aug 27, 2015 20:56
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Entropic posted:I can't tell if the Cardassian uniforms are supposed to be rubber or not. I used to think they were metal when I was a kid, but in a bunch of episodes you can see them bend like rubber and it doesn't seem like they're trying to hide it. They are made of the hides of dead founders.
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Aug 27, 2015 21:01
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Does Conservation of Momentum apply with Star Trek transporters? It seems like it must not because otherwise when you beamed someone up from a planet they'd smear across the wall. But then there's that episode where Ezri makes a magic rifle that transports moving bullets, so 
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Aug 27, 2015 21:08
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maybe you can choose the reference frame you're transporting into, although at that point you could teleport a bullet without firing it first and still kill someone
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Aug 27, 2015 21:13
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Entropic posted:Does Conservation of Momentum apply with Star Trek transporters? It seems like it must not because otherwise when you beamed someone up from a planet they'd smear across the wall. But then there's that episode where Ezri makes a magic rifle that transports moving bullets, so And the feeling of being inside the wall when transported at high warp. So the answer is, yes, when they need it to and not when ever they don't specify it does. Also when they transported fake Tal Shiar Troi off that Romulan ship she beamed in facing sideways, a series first. This never happened again in any other episode.
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Aug 27, 2015 21:15
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Entropic posted:I can't tell if the Cardassian uniforms are supposed to be rubber or not. I used to think they were metal when I was a kid, but in a bunch of episodes you can see them bend like rubber and it doesn't seem like they're trying to hide it. I always assumed they are supposed to be metal and it's just bad camera shots. If it's supposed to be rubber the Cardassian Union is more like the Cardassian Civil Union am I right?
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Aug 27, 2015 21:15
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You just set up a vacuum chamber with something falling in it and transport it to the top every time it's about to hit the bottom. It will just keep accelerating until you've got it going a significant fraction of the speed of light and then instead of teleporting it to the top of the chamber you teleport it to outside, aimed at someone you don't like. You want to put this setup on the lowest deck of your ship though, in case you lose power.
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Aug 27, 2015 21:15
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flexible but strong science fiction meta-material which to our modern eyes looks like rubber
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Aug 27, 2015 21:16
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Come to think of it, you ought to be able to weaponize artificial gravity pretty easily too.
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Aug 27, 2015 21:17
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Entropic posted:You just set up a vacuum chamber with something falling in it and transport it to the top every time it's about to hit the bottom. It will just keep accelerating until you've got it going a significant fraction of the speed of light and then instead of teleporting it to the top of the chamber you teleport it to outside, aimed at someone you don't like. That would overload the gravity plates!
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Aug 27, 2015 21:17
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Germstore posted:That would overload the gravity plates! You could do it in a real gravity well. Even more dangerous if you lose power though, because then you suddenly cause the equivalent of gigaton meteor strike in your basement. You'd think terrorists would have thought of this.
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Germstore posted:flexible but strong science fiction meta-material which to our modern eyes looks like rubber Sadly "Future Tech" is just the Sci Fi equivalent of "Whenever you see something like that, it was done by an evil wizard"
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Entropic posted:I can't tell if the Cardassian uniforms are supposed to be rubber or not. I used to think they were metal when I was a kid, but in a bunch of episodes you can see them bend like rubber and it doesn't seem like they're trying to hide it. Yeah sometimes they didn't seem to give a poo poo. http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Maquis,_Part_I_ "When Dukat and Benjamin Sisko enter the Promenade, having just returned to Deep Space 9 after visiting the Demilitarized Zone, it is obvious that the chest piece of Dukat's costume has detached itself from the underlying material. The rubber armor even catches a few times on the actor's lower arm as it swings while he walks." 
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Aug 27, 2015 21:35
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I generally like to think that Star Trek doesn't show the scale of its actual wars, due to budgets and its high-minded ideals, but basically the ground war scenes as i saw in the episode where Jake goes to the planet under Klingon attack seemed pretty reminiscent of poo poo you'd see in Warhammer 40k. Just huge numbers of guys getting shredded apart. Hell, I love that the Defiant is apparently quite capable of destroying an entire planet by itself--or certainly eliminating its capacity to sustain life.
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Aug 27, 2015 22:16
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Didn't the Dominion war kill like 6 trillion people?
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BottledBodhisvata posted:I generally like to think that Star Trek doesn't show the scale of its actual wars, due to budgets and its high-minded ideals, I tend to assume Star Trek doesn't show the scale of its actual wars because there's just no way to write the same 5 anchor characters into every single squad of every single army a thousand times over.
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Entropic posted:You just set up a vacuum chamber with something falling in it and transport it to the top every time it's about to hit the bottom. It will just keep accelerating until you've got it going a significant fraction of the speed of light and then instead of teleporting it to the top of the chamber you teleport it to outside, aimed at someone you don't like. Why would it accelerate though?
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Fister Roboto posted:Why would it accelerate though? Because that's what falling is. Drop something in a vacuum chamber in earth-standard gravity and it will accelerate at 9.8 m/s^2 downward. Normally something in a gravity well only gets to accelerate so much beause a) with atmospheric resistance it will eventually reach terminal velocity and b) it will eventually hit the ground. Droping something in a vacuum eliminates a) and if transporters conserve momentum you can eliminate b) Haven't you ever played Portal and put one portal on the ceiling and the other just below it on the floor and jumped in? Entropic fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Aug 28, 2015 |
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Tyrannosword posted:Going back a few pages to the whole "This is how they'd fight a war!" thing, was there ever any documented use of the transporters as weapons? Seems to me you could do a lot of damage with those - beaming explosives directly into the enemy's chest cavity, for example, or just locking onto an enemy, converting their matter into energy and beaming that energy wholesale into the middle of an enemy ship for maximum explosive fun (there must be a whole lot of energy buried in the atoms of a humanoid body). You could literally use enemy soldiers as ammunition to blow up their comrades! Shields prevent this. When shields aren't up, you're already dead anyway. So there wasn't much investment in this. They did do it in a couple Voyager episodes though for lols. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bkw69E_C4g
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If the writers thought about it hard enough they'd probably decide the teleporter has to use energy equal to what the object gains. So you'd be making a really complicated railgun. Because you can teleport to (mostly) arbitrary locations it would make sense that you could teleport to arbitrary speeds as well assuming you have the energy to pay for it.
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Aug 28, 2015 02:45
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Germstore posted:If the writers thought about it Big ol' if there.
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Naxuz posted:Space combat in Trek only makes sense when you realize that ever since Star Trek 2, the whole thing was literally meant to be Horatio Hornblower in Space, with a large helping of Das Boot. That's why there are no fighters, FTL missiles whoa whoa whoa what the gently caress do you think a photon torpedo is you launch that poo poo while you're at warp, those fuckers have warp sustainer engines that kick in
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Aug 28, 2015 03:49
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lol if you play Star Trek Online and haven't built a full-scale replica of the Enterprise bridge in your gaming room complete with blinking LCARS interfaces
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Aug 28, 2015 05:59
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*pops open tricorder app on smartphone* *begins scanning thread for signs of nerdiness* *tricorder breaks*
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Aug 28, 2015 06:01
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Romulan ships look like they welded a pair of Klingon Birds of Prey together at the nacelles.
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Omi-Polari posted:*pops open tricorder app on smartphone* I'm always tempted to tricorder my phone up.
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Tyrannosword posted:Going back a few pages to the whole "This is how they'd fight a war!" thing, was there ever any documented use of the transporters as weapons? Seems to me you could do a lot of damage with those - beaming explosives directly into the enemy's chest cavity, for example, or just locking onto an enemy, converting their matter into energy and beaming that energy wholesale into the middle of an enemy ship for maximum explosive fun (there must be a whole lot of energy buried in the atoms of a humanoid body). You could literally use enemy soldiers as ammunition to blow up their comrades! There was the time Scotty beamed all the tribbles onto the Klingon ship, that's sort of biological warfare. Also, Kirk stole not one but two cloaking devices, the federation surely knew how to make them and use them well before the Defiant.
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My Q-Face posted:There was the time Scotty beamed all the tribbles onto the Klingon ship, that's sort of biological warfare. Hell, the Federation cloaking device kicked the Romulan and Klingon device's arse. Phase cloak. Toothing problems excepted.
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Aug 28, 2015 06:40
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Speaking of guys who probably have heads in the freezer: http://youtu.be/9Z9VSOq0nqU
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Speaking of guys who probably have heads in the freezer: Man, Hank Hill was really dead on the inside before he discovered Propane.
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My Q-Face posted:There was the time Scotty beamed all the tribbles onto the Klingon ship, that's sort of biological warfare. Canada knows how to make nuclear bombs. We mine uranium and have nuclear reactors, so getting the fissable material is no problem. We have scads of mostly uninhabited arctic territory where we could run tests. We could totally make nuclear bombs, but we don't, because we agreed not to. The federation totally could make cloaking devices. Certainly by the time TNG rolls around. But they don't, because they agreed not to. They totally could have built the Defiant without the help of the Romulans, but they'd rather cooperate than break the treaty unilaterally.
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It would have been cool if they broke out the phase shifting cloaking device for the Defiant during the Dominion War, even if it meant they had to share that technology with the Romulans as a result.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:It would have been cool if they broke out the phase shifting cloaking device for the Defiant during the Dominion War, even if it meant they had to share that technology with the Romulans as a result. It's one of those technologies that has ridiculous implications if you weaponised it. Cloaking's the least of it. Phase missiles! Phase spy drones sitting in the enemy HQ! Of course, it might just be that scanning for Chronitons and shooting a good Anyon beam is all you need to defeat it.
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