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He's also usually depicted as somewhere between 6'4"-6'6" and built like Adonis. Sorry Lex, he still has the power of 4"s of reach and arms the size of your legs.
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"I know what's a good idea, I'll pick a fist fight with a guy who's got years of experience punching people and who hangs out with some of the best martial artists in the world" - Lex Luthor, supergenius
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Aug 27, 2015 17:35
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PantsOptional posted:"I know what's a good idea, I'll pick a fist fight with a guy who's got years of experience punching people and who hangs out with some of the best martial artists in the world" - Lex Luthor, supergenius  All-Star Superman #12
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PantsOptional posted:"I know what's a good idea, I'll pick a fist fight with a guy who's got years of experience punching people and who hangs out with some of the best martial artists in the world" - Lex Luthor, supergenius Lex is always blinded by arrogance. He refuses to believe Superman is smarter than him or a better person in general, and assumes the only reason Superman wins, ever, is his powers.
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Aug 27, 2015 17:49
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He's "Superman is boring" haters personified, basically.
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Did Ali ever comment about the Superman vs Ali book? Was he a fan?
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I've always been a Marvel guy for some reason, I just missed the boat on DC and so have never really been able to get into any of the characters even Superman. Is it just me or is all the artwork in these latest superman panels posted extra lovely? It looks like a high school art project, not a professional comic that people pay money for.
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Aug 27, 2015 18:51
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It's just you.
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TollTheHounds posted:I've always been a Marvel guy for some reason, I just missed the boat on DC and so have never really been able to get into any of the characters even Superman. Is it just me or is all the artwork in these latest superman panels posted extra lovely? It looks like a high school art project, not a professional comic that people pay money for. A bunch of people are gonna post about how Frank Quitely is the best artist and you're crazy, but to sum it up I'd say it's definitely an acquired taste, but not a bad one.
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Chinaman7000 posted:A bunch of people are gonna post about how Frank Quitely is the best artist and you're crazy, but to sum it up I'd say it's definitely an acquired taste, but not a bad one. I know art is subjective, and there's lots of different styles. I love the most recent Hawkeye series, particularly David Aja & Annie Wu, and you could argue they are a bit lo-fi and less "professional" than anything else. I just look at these superman panels and the movement seems so jerky, like that last panel, the top pane where he's punching Luthor looks like when you have 2 action figures and you're making them punch each-other, rather than something actually choreographed/taking motion into mind. Anyway, didn't mean to derail really it just takes away from the panel being bad-rear end to me when all I can wonder is why it looks so off.
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TollTheHounds posted:I just look at these superman panels and the movement seems so jerky, like that last panel, the top pane where he's punching Luthor looks like when you have 2 action figures and you're making them punch each-other, rather than something actually choreographed/taking motion into mind. The Quitely stuff from All-Star is top-drawer, though.
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Aug 27, 2015 19:20
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redbackground posted:If you're talking about the panels Two-Pair posted from Action 840, yeah, those aren't too hot. I don't even know who drew that one. Its Pete Woods.
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bobkatt013 posted:Its Pete Woods.
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It could be worse, it could be Steve Dillon
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TollTheHounds posted:I've always been a Marvel guy for some reason, I just missed the boat on DC and so have never really been able to get into any of the characters even Superman. Is it just me or is all the artwork in these latest superman panels posted extra lovely? It looks like a high school art project, not a professional comic that people pay money for. I was collecting comics from both brands when I was a kid in the 1970s and 1980s and although there was definitely a different feel between them there was still plenty of talent on both sides. I think DC struggled with emerging from the 1960s, and their overly wordy and sensationalistic covers was a tedious symptom. By the time I stopped buying comics in the mid 1980s Marvel was starting to dive into the edgy side, riding the Frank Miller train all the way to the station... and beyond, Montparnasse style. Mike Grell says "Swords, guns and dinosaurs? WHY NOT?" 
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Evil Mastermind posted:The fistfights never work for Lex; he gets physically and verbally beaten. I love how defeated Lex breaks the panel on the bottom. Superman is dumb though and Superman punching people to solve problems is the most dumb, especially while talking about how brains beat brawns. Unless you've got BR AI N S on your knuckles there boyscout you just laid out a dude with your brawn.
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Sigma-X posted:I love how defeated Lex breaks the panel on the bottom. You should actually read the book, this is out of context
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I do like the call back to silver age dickery in those panels..
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Sigma-X posted:I love how defeated Lex breaks the panel on the bottom. Seriously dude you could not be more wrong.
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Sigma-X posted:Superman is dumb though and Superman punching people to solve problems is the most dumb, especially while talking about how brains beat brawns. Unless you've got BR AI N S on your knuckles there boyscout you just laid out a dude with your brawn. Lex stole Superman's powers, leaving Supes powerless.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I do like the call back to silver age dickery in those panels.. The book has loads of callbacks to Silver Age dickery, including an entire issue where some new form of Kryptonite makes Superman a rampaging dickhead.
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Senor Candle posted:Seriously dude you could not be more wrong. Man, either he's read the last few pages here and is just trolling, or he has the exact type of shallow understanding of Superman the last few pages have talked about. Either way, not worth engaging.
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When I was a kid, I read a Choose-Your-Own-Adventure book about Superman. One of the stories had him fight Luthor and Superman got depowered so Luthor could fight him man to man. If you accept the fight, Luthor would beat Superman to death with his bare hands. So I'm glad people are posting the powerless Superman vs. Luthor pages here because young me thought that book was bullshit.
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mind the walrus posted:The book has loads of callbacks to Silver Age dickery, including an entire issue where some new form of Kryptonite makes Superman a rampaging dickhead. oh hey the plot to supes III. My favorite bit is where he goes and puts out the olympic torch as it's brought into the stadium.
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Gavok posted:When I was a kid, I read a Choose-Your-Own-Adventure book about Superman. One of the stories had him fight Luthor and Superman got depowered so Luthor could fight him man to man. If you accept the fight, Luthor would beat Superman to death with his bare hands. Every CYOA book is bullshit.
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Lurdiak posted:Every CYOA book is bullshit. Aw, come on, the Grail Quest ones were great, you got a junior version of Excalibur and could pal around with a ghoul who would help you out/tear out your throat if you dissed his poetry.
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Sentinel Red posted:Aw, come on, the Grail Quest ones were great, you got a junior version of Excalibur and could pal around with a ghoul who would help you out/tear out your throat if you dissed his poetry. I'm not saying they weren't fun, but they all had really bs ways to kill you arbitrarily. It was like the precursor to Sierra adventure games.
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Lurdiak posted:Every CYOA book is bullshit. That's why you are allowed to flip back as long as you kept a finger on the page. I am pretty sure that is how everyone read those books?
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Evil Mastermind posted:The fistfights never work for Lex; he gets physically and verbally beaten. Jesus Christ... Lex is a superman in his own right. That, or he's smuggling a mortar shell in his pants.
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"I could have saved the world!" "Dude you're wearing a green trenchcoat and purple pants"
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Superman minus powers is still a hulking farm boy. Never get into a fistfight with someone who has shoulders as big as their head. 
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redbackground posted:Aww nuts, I normally like him. Maybe it's the murky coloring, I dunno. Probably! I've just had those pictures on my computer forever. I never thought to update them with prettier versions after I actually bought the issues off Comixology. Dare to compare.  Still a little murky, definitely lighter though.
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TwoPair posted:Probably! I've just had those pictures on my computer forever. I never thought to update them with prettier versions after I actually bought the issues off Comixology. Dare to compare. I've always liked this art, but I do have to admit it looks pretty static compared to the All-Star stuff posted above. e: Also, the last several pages of this thread are my favourite pages ever.
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Lurdiak posted:I'm not saying they weren't fun, but they all had really bs ways to kill you arbitrarily. It was like the precursor to Sierra adventure games. I read a Justice League one when I was a kid. On the Flash path there's a point where the bad guys shoot at you with a weird gun. One option is to vibrate your molecules to go through the projectile, a very Flash thing to do. SURPRISE! the gun's effect is to make you permanently in that stasis, so that you'll never be able to touch another thing again, and are helpless to stop the baddies!
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Why is it that every single choose your own adventure has to have you die in some of the answers? You could write them so that different asnwers lead to different stories, or that you had multiple things you were trying to accomplish and most of the endings only let you succeed at part of your goals. Hell, if you thought it was important for children to understand the importance f decision making and consequences you could write it so that it was impossible to succeed at everything in any path you took, but still write a book for 8 year olds where they aren't going to experience a gruesome death. I'm not saying they should all be like that, or even that many, but was there a single one where you couldn't end the story dead or stuck in ghost form or turned into an immortal statue watching all your loved ones grow old and die, unable to communicate with them? I remember one where I was an astronaut and got sucked into a blackhole and in their version of how blackholes gently caress with time, I was stuck in the moment just before death being simultaneously torn apart and crushed into a singularity forever and instantaneously at once.
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Skwirl posted:Why is it that every single choose your own adventure has to have you die in some of the answers? You could write them so that different asnwers lead to different stories, or that you had multiple things you were trying to accomplish and most of the endings only let you succeed at part of your goals. Hell, if you thought it was important for children to understand the importance f decision making and consequences you could write it so that it was impossible to succeed at everything in any path you took, but still write a book for 8 year olds where they aren't going to experience a gruesome death. Try to write one. Enough branching plotlines and you'll start killing people off left and right just to save pages. It takes a lot of time and talent to weave a CYOA that allows meaningful choices without writing the equivalent of four or five stories, and my guess is that the publisher wasn't going to give a lot of the former or pay enough to attract the latter.
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There were the adventure books that were basically single player Dungeons & Dragons, like Lone Wolf.
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WickedHate posted:There were the adventure books that were basically single player Dungeons & Dragons, like Lone Wolf. You die a lot in Lone Wolf. gently caress, you can die in that from pure random chance.
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No doubt, but they were more complex than most.
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The gruesome deaths are half the fun of the CYOA's. I still remember the horrifying way this one Goosebumps booked described turning into a zombie. Also good CYOA endings: (1)"Do you enter the mysterious house" TURN TO PAGE 8 or (2)"Call your mom and have her pick you up at the gas station you saw a mile or so back" TURN TO PAGE 42 Page 42 was, you went home and had dinner and never had an awesome adventure
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