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Necrons were my first major success in Dark Crusade. before they got nerfed into the ground, you could literally win games (including multiplayer) with a full population of generic warriors. Why? Well, first, necron warrior squads were(are?) free, much like the Slugga Boyz once you upgrade them. This resulted in my normal build order being builder, builder, as many necron warriors as I can get in population, Lord. The necron lord is the fastest early unit you get, what with his ability to teleport around the place, so he's good for putting out spot fires. Now, you'd think 'but Bahumat! They'll just get plasma and kill all your lovely not-reinforced dudes!'. That's ok, that was the plan. See, you can, from a couple of monoliths, pump out a LOT of free Warriors to plug people up as you build your economy and tech like a madman to get access to the Necron Lord's Resurrection Orb. Which was bonkers. What is does is, it allows your lord to raise nearby dead necron squads, not at full strength but they get their asses off the floor. Given that your Lord revives wherever he dies, you can have your entire army wiped out, build a new one back at base (I liked using flayed ones so you can teleport them into the enemy and tarpit them up), then raise the lord and immediately use the orb to raise the entire previous army off the ground. The reason this strategy worked? It ignored the population cap. Assuming I had the time to fully heal and reinforce my revived freebie squads, I'd be sending around 34-36 population worth of hard as hell necrons into my opponent and even with upgrades and good strategy, when you have nearly as many metal monstrosities as guard and orks have guys, there's not a lot they can do. Then they made it so you can't bypass the cap and I need to start actually using strategy and army composition and lost interest compared to playing my flashlight armed combined army Guard. It was hilarious and overpowered but strangely a lot of players didn't use it because they didn't realise how good mass early warriors is at fending off base rushes (which was a lot of the metagame at the time I played Dark Crusade). Still, the more you know!
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It helps that from a pure statistic point of view The Necron Lord is the best commander in the game from memory, he doesn't have a good ranged attack and he's slow as all hell but he's got stupid high melee damage and more health than most of the other ones from the start. Also all of his special abilities are fairly amazing and the C'Tan transformation is one of those things that has to be seen to be believed
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Aug 28, 2015 05:22
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Teleportation, amazing melee, really tanky, C'Tan transformations... the dude is a BEAST. Not to mention when he dies, he just flops down where he is, then gets right back up where he fell when he gets remade by the Monolith.
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Aug 28, 2015 05:26
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Yeah I mentioned earlier but one of my favourite tactics was to march the lord into the enemy base C'Tan it up and go wild. Let him die and wait for the C'Tan transformation to come back and then rinse and repeat.
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Aug 28, 2015 05:29
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My Necron strategy was just to use basic troops until I could mass flayed ones, walk the leader in with a resurrection orb*this also increases the chance that a necron that falls near him will get back up on top of the ability to just force them all up* walk him into their base ripping everything up then just pop a flayed ones group under anyone that shoots at him which nigh INSTANTLY obliterates their moral. Massed flayed ones can probably take a base themselves the Lord just provided the sight and C'tan'd to keep up.
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Aug 28, 2015 05:47
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The one thing I find annoying about units like Flayed Ones. They have *lots* of attacks that knock units back, and they knock 'em pretty far, too. Now, that's not a BAD thing. A unit that's being tossed around like a baseball is not contributing to the fight. But it also means they tend to take forever to actually kill stuff - they spend more time getting back into melee with their targets than actually doing damage. It's just something I tend to get annoyed by. Effective, but slow.
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Aug 28, 2015 05:54
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BlazetheInferno posted:Effective, but slow. Necron in a nutshell.
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Isn't the big Necron Dark Crusade trick rushing to tier 2 and teleporting a couple of squads of flayed ones to an enemy HQ to destroy it in seconds?
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Every time I try to play this or DoW2, I realize my reaction time is tortoise slow now and I don't entirely enjoy traditional rts. DoW2 is close to what I enjoy but everyone who plays it nowadays is a god and my guys all die and deal no damage while his laugh off whatever I do.  (playing Elite mod may not help with that.) And sadly the computer in DoW2 is pants on head retarded so playing against them is...not fun, if only because they don't even try and play the game like a human.
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You know, the one army that routinely hands me my rear end is the Imp Guard.I cannot fight them, or maybe it's just the Pavonian Heartland being loving horrible.Eimi posted:Every time I try to play this or DoW2, I realize my reaction time is tortoise slow now and I don't entirely enjoy traditional rts. DoW2 is close to what I enjoy but everyone who plays it nowadays is a god and my guys all die and deal no damage while his laugh off whatever I do. You cannot post this without posting THE COMIC 
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Onmi posted:You know, the one army that routinely hands me my rear end is the Imp Guard.I cannot fight them, or maybe it's just the Pavonian Heartland being loving horrible. It is true. Playing team games there is an enforced pact to stick to your 'lane' marching forward (or dying) bravely in it. If you are a churlish rake you might help out your allies, but this act is seen as most ungentlemanly(by your opponents.) Ironically the ai would benefit from the dota mentality. 
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Dawn of War 2 in my experience was Alpha Strike: The Game in both MP and SP campaign. For that reason it has a certain appeal in simulating squad level tactics but normal RTS strategies like army build-up & concentration or building counter units to your enemy's stuff tends to get overshadowed by ability management and hit&run, at least when most people have a handle on the basics. Even if you know to do things like throw a grenade at an infantry squad for massive damage you can easily get caught up in this weird meta where your opponent knows that's what you want and has a contingency plan ready to go.
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Onmi posted:You know, the one army that routinely hands me my rear end is the Imp Guard.I cannot fight them, or maybe it's just the Pavonian Heartland being loving horrible. Pavonian Heartland is a loving difficult map. It is, hands down, the map I have the most difficulty with, no matter which difficulty I play, no matter which race I play. There's a reason I moaned about it a bunch in the last update, it is insufferably difficult. This is mainly because it's too large, there are too many points of access to defend, it's too easy for the AI to snowball, and the location of strategic points are awkward for where the player starts. Any army will give you a run for your money on the Pavonian Heartlands if you don't come with a) a decent Honour Guard or b) advance base. EDIT: we got off real easy in this playthrough. We've already got an Honour Guard that is a force to be reckoned with, and the back and forth the Imperials and Necrons had fighting over the area means it didn't have the opportunity to build up a massive defense. Sally fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Aug 28, 2015 |
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Eimi posted:It is true. Playing team games there is an enforced pact to stick to your 'lane' marching forward (or dying) bravely in it. If you are a churlish rake you might help out your allies, but this act is seen as most ungentlemanly(by your opponents.) Ironically the ai would benefit from the dota mentality. This type of mentality might as well have been transplanted straight from Company of Heroes. It's genuinely hard to tell if it's players or the AI that have the worst case of tunnel vision. Living, breathing people don't care about divvying up the map into lanes, they'll pile onto one side if resistance is too heavy in one area and hit players caught up building the Maginot Line from behind and eventually throw artillery at them. This is why team games (and the maps themselves) occupy a special spot in the poorly conceived hellhole of Relic Balance. Company of Heroes online was even better with hero units in the mix. Goons were making people go ballistic inside and out of matches with abusive tricks before that game crashed and burned. 
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Nope, I just suck at fighting the Guard. Got destroyed at the Morriah Coast by the Guard. I just cannot answer their vehicle/troop spam in time.
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Onmi posted:Nope, I just suck at fighting the Guard. Got destroyed at the Morriah Coast by the Guard. I just cannot answer their vehicle/troop spam in time. Who are you playing as right now?
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Okay, so I've beaten Dark Crusade's campaign on Hard with about half of the different factions. Not all of them, but I'm working on that. I'm not great at multiplayer, but I know how to school the AI with the factions I've played. So I'm going to give some pro-tips for playing Dark Crusade's campaign on hard mode. Feel free to use these or criticize them, but I'm throwing them out there. ~*~*~*~BLIND SALLYZ GUIDES to DARK KURsAIDE~*~*~*~  GENERAL STRATEGY MAKE USE OF THE PERSISTENT BASES. If you're new to Hard mode get in the habit of attacking enemies at poorly defended provinces, almost but not quite destroying them, and building a massive armed base across the entire map while you quarantine them. You will lose any buildings constructed within the areas that the AI attack from in defense conflicts, but that tends to be only two small corners of any map. If you dominate everywhere else, you should be able to adequately defend any attack. IF YOUR ENEMY HAS TWO BASES make sure you destroy one quickly. The way it works with the AI, is that if you attack or defend in a province where the AI has two bases, you are effectively fighting a 2v1 match. Sure, you are fighting two AI of the same army, which can make countering them easier, but they are treated like two separate players. That means they get to field double the units you get to field. That means you could be facing two enemy commanders (as we know, not all commanders are made equal, and they can dominate the battlefield if not addressed quickly). If you don't have the necessary Honour Guard to destroy one base early on, it's not worth the attack. It's too easy for the AI to snowball and destroy your base before you can establish yourself. Quick strikes at an enemy base are always preferable to turtling while you fortify your own defenses. An enemy army is defeated, meaning they are completely wiped out from the map, units, buildings, and capture points, if you destroy their HQ. The AI sometimes tries to mitigate this by building a second HQ, but that usually only occurs if their first one takes a critical amount of damage. So FOCUS ON DESTROYING HQS. Always remember that IT'S A PERFECTLY LEGITIMATE STRATEGY TO RUN AWAY. I mean, there are some pretty sweet epic battles you can get into if you and the enemy get your forces built up enough to reach a maximum state of conflict, but the Dark CrusQuiade campaign can get long and frustrating if this happens for every single attack and defense. Also, as much fun as it can be to get "stuck in with da boyz", letting your AI opponent get to the point where they can field such massive armies lessens your chances of winning. If you find that the enemy is getting the upper hand and you're consistently having difficulty turning it around, it's often better to just quit. Like the Ork saying goes, you can always go back and have another go at it, so it's not like you lost the fight. Quick strikes into a base to take out key structures are far more effective than waiting to amass a throng of soldiers to go toe-to-toe with the enemy armies. To summarize: if you find yourself drowning in enemy soldiers and are unable to make any headway OR are consistently losing ground, it's more cost and time-effective to quit and try again. To add to that-- PRESERVE YOUR HONOUR GUARD. They get expensive, and that requisition can be better spent on fortifying your base defenses on the map screen or saving them for building Forward Bases (if you get that perk). Honestly, the Honour Guard are so powerful that losing them can be a severe blow to a fight. This is why quitting a losing match can be beneficial, as if you quit while your Honour Guard are still alive, they will all be preserved. If they die in the conflict, you'll lose'em, so what's the point? Note that Honour Guard units are unique and have higher stats than Honour Guard vehicles, which really just allow you to start a map with a vehicle. Speaking of which, if haven't been, BUILD AN HONOUR GUARD! It's pretty much essential for the campaign. If you want to survive certain Stronghold attacks (Necron, I'm looking at you), you must have an Honour Guard. They also make late game assaults and defenses much easier. REMEMBER: if you have to defend a province that your commander is adjacent to, you will be able to bring your commander and their Honour Guard into the battle. The further away your commander is from a defense, the less resources you get to start with. You can always summon your commander to a battle, but you CANNOT SUMMON YOUR HONOUR GUARD TO A BATTLE. Has the AI relocate its base or set up somewhere else? ALWAYS BE CAPTURING STRATEGIC POINTS and reinforcing them. (This especially helps with Eldar, which can teleport their HQ). If you are stuck looking for the last building to destroy, having strategic points all over the maps help. They provide you with a constant visual glimpse of an area that you can keep an eye on to catch enemy builder units and squads that travel past them. Unenforced strategic points can always be captured, so having Listening Posts upgraded on those points are great in case they're able to kill any stray builder units. Furthermore, Upgraded Listening Posts are always nice if the enemy gets the advantage over you and you need to retreat, as any sort of attacking turret will slow them down. So don't forget to upgrade them! (Particularly if you're playing as the Necron, since Obelisk Posts aren't self-sufficient until at the maximum upgrade). When fighting each army, SOME BUILDINGS ARE MORE CRITICAL THAN OTHERS. Here's a quick low-down on buildings that you should prioritize as targets when facing against them:
 TAU EMPIRE (I imagine a lot of this has probably come through with how I'm running the LP, but here's the condensed version of my strategy for re-taking Kronus with the Tau) Early Campaign Build a barracks immediately, and build a couple of Stealth Suits. Have the Stealth Suits grab Requisition Points and build a couple of Fire Warrior Squads. Great, now you might not die if you suffer an early game gank. Shas O'Kais is invaluable, but will be vulnerable until you get some upgrades. You're going to want to play defensively, which is hard because Tau are essentially wholly offensive. It's costly, but build as many maxed out Fire Warrior squads as possible. The plan is to be able to destroy your enemies before they get close and present a problem. If possible, go on the attack to deprive them of vehicle construction capabilities. The problem with Tau is their units are costly yet you need to construct different buildings to bump up your vehicle/squad cap. It's a hard balancing act. Around this time, you should have upgraded your Stealth Suit squads to be awesome anti-vehicle/building squads—keep them with Shas O'Kais. Go Kauyon upgrade to max out your Firewarrior squad capabilities--seriously, I'm only trying out Mont'ka to show off all the units in the LP, I usually only go Mont'ka for a laugh. If you can support it, build a fleet of Drones and utilize the "Drone Swarm" strategy. If you haven't defeated the enemy by now, your Drone fleets will be your saving grace because now you will have been in game so long that you won't be able to adequately diversify your squad enough to defend or attack the enemies. If you can get a relic, build a Kroot force with Kroot Hounds, Krootox and the Greater Knarloc. They're a great distraction for your Fire Warriors and can take a lot of punishment—an excellent alternative if you're facing a force that can counter Drone swarms (e.g., Eldar max upgraded turrets and Fire Prism tanks). If you are dominating the map, quarantine your enemy and build bases all over. If you are attacked and O'Kais is nearby to defend with his Honour Guard, you'll be alright. If not, you'll be dependent on the limited reinforcements and hope you can build up enough defences to resist assault—it'll be hard. Fire Warriors and Drone Squads are usually your best bet. (Kroot Carnivores are a nice support unit, but I find Pathfinders to be more or less useless until I can establish myself). Late Campaign Rely on O'Kais and your honour guard. Learn enemy base spawns and loving rush them. If there are two bases, you need to be able to rush fast. Focus on getting lands that provide you with Firewarrior and Stealthsuit honour guards. Also, additional Requisition and Forward Base are godsends—but Forward Base is difficult to capture, unless you're going in solely with an upgraded O'Kais. (See the update where I finally take Hyperion Peaks--it's a long slog, but O'Kais can basically do that mission on his own). At this point, though, you can use the Honour Guard to defend your base and switch to Mont'Ka tactics. The Crisis Suits are excellent, but a couple of Hammerhead Gunships are devastating if you can secure the resources for them. Biggest drawback with Crisis Suits is that because they count as infantry, you can't repair them with Earth Caste Drones, like a vehicle. However, since they have such large health pools, it takes ages for them to heal if they are severely injured. If you can manage to secure a fast enough Power supply rate, you can do the Temp Drone Fleet tactic (which I haven't shown off yet). Build Drone Harbingers, park them just outside enemy bases, tag spawn points as inside the base, and leave them to continuously spawn drones behind enemy lines. If it's a powerful entrenched force, they wont be deterred, but they will be distracted and slowly, ever so slowly, whittled down. At this point, use Fire Warriors to attack from the flank. Wargear Get cloaking first. It's a must. Then get the infiltration detection. Also a must. Then get jetpacks. Boom, now Shas O'Kais is the most dangerous commander of them all. Subsequent upgrades should focus on making him beefier or more lethal. Save drone upgrades for last, they aren't super necessary. You are witnessing this in the LP and can make your own judgement on whether or not you are finding it to be successful. (Note: I've only lost two missions so far, and I'm leaving my attack route to the whim of the thread).  NECRON Early Campaign Build a single Necron Warrior squad, and team it with your commander. Build as many scarabs as possible and get capturing requisition points. You want to focus on building lots of power stations and a few obelisks to get your power rate and build rate up. you dont need requisition, but without power, you're hosed. Don't focus on building Necron Warriors. Yes, they are free, but with each additional squad you build it takes longer and longer to construct. Build one or two tops. Any more and it takes too drat long and just isn't worth the time. Get your Summoning Core up, because you want Flayed Ones to deploy from your Monolith. You've probably marched your Necron squad (or two, if you're confident) somewhere with your Necron Lord. they are slow, so play your attack safe until you can spawn in Flayed Ones in the middle of the base to disrupt enemies. Dont bother with vehicles unless you want a Tomb Spyder or two. Their strong offensive and defensive capability is awesome when combined with the ability to harvest corpses to make new squads. But otherwise, focus on maxing out your obelisks and power cores. only focus on other buildings when you can build no more Plasma Cores. Early games get easier, not with more wargear, but with a Necron Squad or two in your Honour Guard to save build time and focus early game on Scarabs. Late Campaign With a couple of Necron Warrior squads and the Pariah Squad, your Necron Lord is pretty dangerous in early runs. Big problem is it's hell getting your team anywhere. It takes drat forever if you're not defending a map with buildings all over it already, and you may need a Necron Destroyer or your Necron Lord to play inference while your team makes its slow march to the enemy base. However I find you aren't able to rely on your Honour Guard as much with other races (see: the Tau), so capturing certain territories isn't as important as it is with other races. Continue focussing on getting as much power up and running as possible. Rely on Flayed Ones as shock troops. With more resources at your disposal, try and get Tomb Spyders up and running as quickly as you can, as their effects are devastating. When you max out your Tomb Spiders, build Lord Destroyers, or whatever to get the most out of your vehicle cap. If you are playing against a race with sweet vehicles, use your Lord Destroyers to take them (e.g., steal a Tau Hammerhead Gunship--you will wreck them). Working towards the C'Tan lord upgrade for your Necron Lord is okay, but frankly it can sometimes be annoying against an enemy that can infiltrate—with your Scarabs busy keeping your economy running, why waste them as detectors for your squads when your Necron Lord can detect? Only problem is, when your Necron Lord transforms, it loses detection abilities. What you really want to focus on late game is the Necron Monolith. Power it up, teleport it to an enemy base and wreak devastation on the enemy. Continue to resurrect Tomb Spiders and drop Flayed Ones as shock troops. I've found many of the Necron units remain fairly useless throughout. For one, Wraiths get used a tonne by the AI, and I never had a need for them. Lord Destroyers are sometimes fun because you can use them to get sick vehicles you normally wouldn't have. Nabbing Hammerhead Gunships from the Tau or Lemann Russ tanks from the Imperial Guard is hilarious and game breaking. Wargear Infiltration detection first. Then focus on giving it damage and survivability. It's already one of the beefiest commanders, but with some upgrades it's an unstoppable early-game fighter.  ELDAR Early Campaign Always give Taldeer a squad or two of Eldar Guardians, one to attach to and another as a decoy in case you need to run. Like the Imperial Guard, Eldar are unfortunate in that once you build their barracks and vehicle depots, you need to upgrade them. You also need to upgrade WAR LEVELS, but they aren't as critical as they are to the Imps. Get the Speed Run upgrade, since you'll want it to strike enemy bases or flee. Get all your Bonesingers out and build your power cores up while you send a squad or two to grab a couple of requisition points. Taldeer is strong enough that with a few escorts, she can devastate unfortified enemy bases with her skills, destroying most squads and commando units with ease. You'll only need a few requisition points since you wont be spending tonnes of it—only on reinforcing your main squads. If things start to get hot, your base progression should next go to getting a Soul Shrine up so you can build a vehicle depot. Research Wraithlords and spam build as much as you can. You'll need to build those weird teleport hooks to bump your squad caps, but that's okay as it gives you space to build power cores or stationary turrets. The Wraithlords are incredible at offense and defense, taking a tonne of damage. Upgraded with the Lance Cannons, they can make quick work of most vehicles and turret emplacements. Up close, they rule at crushing buildings. You can probably just spam them into a base and win. If the match drags out, supplement them with infantry to draw fire off them while they focus on destroying the HQ. Harrlequins are okay for disruption, but the inability to attach to squads is a bummer. Some Dark Ones and Fire Dragons are great for heavy weapons—if you have time to build Warp Spiders, so much the better as they are great at melting infantry and even vehicles. Late Campaign Hopefully you can rely on your Honour Guard a bit more. You'll still need to build a few guards squads for Taldeer—which in that time you can use your Honour Guard to capture requisition instead of building an extra guard set for that job. Then get the Move Speed upgrade and rush to the enemy base. Break defense, kill the few guards and commander, and destroy HQ before they have a chance to get up and running. If you are up against two bases, make sure you get at least one before retreating to build up strength. Wargear Focus on getting Taldeer's ability cool-downs all purchased first. She can cause so much damage with them, so the faster she can re-use them, the quicker you can dominate a map. Once you have those all up, focus on survivability and damage wargears. (I have yet to beat the Campaign with the Orkz, Chaos, or Space Marines, so they are forthcoming. I've conquered the campaign on Hard with the Imp Guard handily, but I'm going to bed, so I'll share my strategies with them later).  (coming soon) Sally fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Sep 5, 2015 |
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Nevermind, I can't read. Anyway, the problem most people seem to run into with the campaign is that you're expected to rush. A lot. Honor Guard is for rushing. You can't just turtle and tech up, the enemy will drown you in bodies no matter how good your unit counters are. Don't think of it as an RTS campaign, but a series of skirmish games.
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Aug 28, 2015 11:21
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anilEhilated posted:Nevermind, I can't read. Anyway, the problem most people seem to run into with the campaign is that you're expected to rush. A lot. Honor Guard is for rushing. You can't just turtle and tech up, the enemy will drown you in bodies no matter how good your unit counters are. Don't think of it as an RTS campaign, but a series of skirmish games. I think that's why I struggled so much in the late games. I'd expand quickly. Then bunker down and build up my forces. Tech them out. By the time it came to run, my enemy had a redicuious force and would continue to drown my guys in dudes. Eldar were the worse for it. One map I faced a constant stream of howling banchies, Falcons, and Guardians. The whole game. They never stopped coming. It was the most frustrating game I'd ever had.
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Arashiofordo3 posted:I think that's why I struggled so much in the late games. I'd expand quickly. Then bunker down and build up my forces. Tech them out. By the time it came to run, my enemy had a redicuious force and would continue to drown my guys in dudes. Eldar were the worse for it. One map I faced a constant stream of howling banchies, Falcons, and Guardians. The whole game. They never stopped coming. It was the most frustrating game I'd ever had. Oh hey, Eldar Drowning buddies. I'm literally drowning in them right now unable to get out of the hell hole I'm stuck in, I can't even claim a relic to bring out the big guns.
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i KEEP meaning to show off Ork and now Guard vehicles. But operation green tide/tide of mans keeps happening too soon and I just solve problems by applying troops to enemy.
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Aug 28, 2015 13:42
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Arashiofordo3 posted:I think that's why I struggled so much in the late games. I'd expand quickly. Then bunker down and build up my forces. Tech them out. By the time it came to run, my enemy had a redicuious force and would continue to drown my guys in dudes. Eldar were the worse for it. One map I faced a constant stream of howling banchies, Falcons, and Guardians. The whole game. They never stopped coming. It was the most frustrating game I'd ever had. It depends on where and when you bunker down, exactly; if you can hem the enemy inside a starting base (good luck finding out which one the first time you play a Strength 5+ map), then you just wall them in with turrets and tech up outside.
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Aug 28, 2015 13:47
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CommissarMega posted:It depends on where and when you bunker down, exactly; if you can hem the enemy inside a starting base (good luck finding out which one the first time you play a Strength 5+ map), then you just wall them in with turrets and tech up outside. Ha, on this map I got to maybe one requisition point. After that the swarm started. I couldn't even get out of my front door. Been so long I can't even recall the map name.
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Arashiofordo3 posted:Ha, on this map I got to maybe one requisition point. After that the swarm started. I couldn't even get out of my front door. Been so long I can't even recall the map name. For me it's area 1, downside the first is that Taldeers grown to love that spot and she's not taking her enormous Honor Guard with her, the second downside is it's big and open, and she has two bases. The third, is that all the relics are far out in the open away from you and your ability to get them. The fourth is that the eldar remain loving broken, even to play against, and all of those space elves are ridiculously tough, easily overwhelming fully reinforced tactical marines and they are loving endless. THE FIFTH IS THOSE loving ELDAR SPELLS! Do you like being blasted with lightning, purple meteors and other such insanity? Then fighting the Eldar will be FUN for you. I decided to tackle Vandean Coast by immediatly loading up on the Predator Tank, my Dreadnought and two Veteran Marines as well as the Honor Guard Hero Chaplin. I just bumrushed the map looking for one base like Sally suggested, then decided to go hunt the second one to cripple them before building the map. I'm going to try to build the largest Honor guard I can before rushing Taldeers broken poo poo again.
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Hey, is there any mod that changes the default colour schemes for the campaign(s), DC and/or SS? I did find an old thread that seemed to reach the conclusion that it was possible, but it did involve some modding with dedicated tools. Especially SS got some stinker default colour schemes.
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Pimpmust posted:Especially SS got some stinker default colour schemes. One thing I never got about honor guards is why certain factions (SM and Chaos, possibly others) often only get one member of a unit that comes in squads and can't be joined to said squads. Feels like such a waste of space.
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So I finally did manage to get the jump on those jumped up space elves. But now we've entered Dawn of Eldar. That's right! the game has mastered the art of "Keep running bonesingers around and I'm about to lose my mind. EDIT: THE ELDAR CAN STEALTH ALL THEIR BUILDINGS?! Onmi fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Aug 28, 2015 |
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anilEhilated posted:Yeah, they aren't even trying to hide the communist Tau in that one. Well... that is the canon color scheme for that Sept of the Tau Empire, and it's the Sept known for being home to the most numerous and aggressive Fire Caste soldiers of them all. It's a desert world and they're the Fire Caste so naturally they opt for red and orange as their color scheme.
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Natural desert color scheme you say
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Aug 28, 2015 16:59
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Pimpmust posted:Natural desert color scheme you say I meant thematically. Fire Caste from a desert world known for being super aggressive, honestly I'm surprised their Sept insignia isn't emblazoned on a flame.
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Aug 28, 2015 17:02
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Pink = Pinko = Commies =Thematically correct 
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Aug 28, 2015 17:18
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Yeah, Eldar being able to cloak their buildings is annoying to fight, but amusing to employ. Also, am I a bad person for enjoying that Pavonian Heartlands map? I mean, I enjoy defending it more than attacking it, but having a gigantic battle at those two/three (the one at the southeast end of the map is rarely used by the AI in my experience - sometimes, but rarely) chokepoints is just too much fun. Especially if you're like me and play with persistent corpses and enjoy watching the bodies pile up.  That may be from the Winter Assault campaign, but it gets the point across nicely - not one of those corpses is a terrain feature, I killed every one of those pricks myself.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:55
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DoW2 is really good for this. Just setting up Avitus in a building and watching endless waves of Orks try to run through the meat grinder is among my favorite RTS experiences. All that bloodshed is just so satisfying. (user has gained +4 corruption for this post)
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Aug 28, 2015 21:52
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Especially if you can find him that Heavy Bolter that never needs to reload.
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Aug 28, 2015 21:59
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BlazetheInferno posted:Especially if you can find him that Heavy Bolter that never needs to reload.
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Aug 28, 2015 22:07
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Pimpmust posted:Natural desert color scheme you say Pretty Marines scheme looking good. anilEhilated posted:DoW2 is really good for this. Just setting up Avitus in a building and watching endless waves of Orks try to run through the meat grinder is among my favorite RTS experiences. All that bloodshed is just so satisfying. One good reason to go with a ranged force commander is pretty much this except when he has the war cry buff on every round gibbs an enemy. The gun that doesn't reload fires a lot of rounds.
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Aug 28, 2015 22:31
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Who do you use for tanking if you have a ranged Force Commander? Melee Tarkus seems to take an awful lot of damage, even with max Stamina and Melee Tactician.
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Aug 29, 2015 00:58
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Ideally nobody tanks since you'll be throwing so much dakka at the enemy that theyll be dead before they reach melee. If you really need a tank use the dreadnaught I guess. Only reason to really turn the force commander into a melee guy is because its much more cooler. On impossible diff I don't think the force commander is very useful with a thunder hammer though.
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Aug 29, 2015 01:11
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I remember hearing that - that impossible difficulty makes just about any melee non-viable because they just die too fast. I could be thinking of something else though.
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Back in the old days Thaddeus could surivive with terminator armour with to some perks that made him immortal for a moment after teleporting and another perk that allowed him to keep teleporting as much as he wanted. I think they nerfed it a bit in chaos rising but I remember it still worked to some level. It was pretty micro intensive though.
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