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It's really disgusting how people here will instantly turn on any minority that dares disagree with what white liberals think.
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Blue Raider posted:if someone was burglarizing my home in the middle of the night, id kill them motherfucking dead. and youre a retard if you wouldnt Statistics say you would have already shot yourself before the burglar even got there. Sorry man. 
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Aug 28, 2015 20:07
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raven4267 posted:gently caress you I am black you racist piece of poo poo. Why don't you try debating my points instead of posting racist quips.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:07
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Doccers posted:Also the "44 times more likely" mythos Kellerman study is pretty thoroughly trashed, it didn't help that he refused to release his data for years, then when he finally did he got destroyed for his methodology (Rival gang members knew each other, therefore, aquaintance/loved one), so I'm not particularly convinced by that either. Now, questions: after wannabe sex-haver Elliot Rodgers had his 5 minutes of Internet fame (still without sex, tho), California apparently introduced some gun restraining order type of legislation. It seems to me like exactly the type of a law that would have worked also in Vester Flanagan's case, no? Also, in the Pokemon WorldCon case, thanks to MA laws, the wannabe shooters were charged with unlawful possession of firearms and unlawful possession of ammunition, so isn't this also case of gun laws, in a sense, working?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:07
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crabcakes66 posted:This is funny because any time a legitimate point is brought up by either side it's met with ad hominem attacks red herrings and strawman arguments. You give a little, you get a little. Who What Now posted:Lock my bedroom door, announce where I am and that I am calling the police You realize you're still 100% at the mercy of the guy(s) in your home. If he wants to break down that door and ensure no witnesses, you have no recourse whatsoever. This exact same scenario works a thousand times better with you pointing a gun at your bedroom door. You don't even need to leave the room.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:08
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crabcakes66 posted:Statistics say you would have already shot yourself before the burglar even got there. Statistics don't apply directly to individuals. People here really need to learn some basics on statistics before they spout off and look dumb.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:09
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Popular Thug Drink posted:sane people don't have plans to deal with an extremely rare event like home invasion. what's your plan for when you get mugged by a leprechaun? (it's to shoot the nearest minority with a gun) This isn't a good argument, because the logic goes hey, what's the harm in having a means to deal with it if it does happen? The better point to be made, not that it would ever get through their heads, is that it isn't just about them. The existence of poorly regulated firearms causes and exacerbates more violent crimes than there are home invasions prevented by firearms. So yes, for you personally it's probably better, but for society it's worse.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:09
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meristem posted:That's cute. Now tell me where I mentioned Kellerman. Gun nuts are in favor of death though, so this is a classical case of something falling on deaf ears.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:10
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Popular Thug Drink posted:so you're saying that your home was invaded and your gun didn't protect you? what a shocker. i, myself, am incredibly suprised at this turn of events Popular Thug Drink posted:yeah i'm part of the vast majority of americans who has never fantasized about the precise sequence of events necessary to legally murder a stranger No, you are part of the population who doesn't have to worry about violent crimes being committed against them on a daily basis. Anyways, I can see that this is a pointless debate. Apparently anything I say about my personal experiences is just going to get me accused of being a liar or a sociopathic murderer.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:10
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Blue Raider posted:if someone was burglarizing my home in the middle of the night, id kill them motherfucking dead. and youre a retard if you wouldnt ok lenny calm down
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Aug 28, 2015 20:10
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crabcakes66 posted:Statistics say you would have already shot yourself before the burglar even got there. good thing statistics are products of unconnected autists published by organizations i dont give a poo poo about
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Aug 28, 2015 20:11
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It's like the equivalent of internet libertarians trying to use econ 101 to prove their points.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:11
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raven4267 posted:I have been the victim of 2 home invasions in my life. First one I was not home, and I didn't even own a gun then anyways. Guns are inanimate objects so I am not sure how they would protect my house without me being there anyways. I also did not have a family to worry about. The second time, somebody broke out a window on my door and was trying to unlock it to get inside. Lets just say they turned around and left very quickly, and I didn't even have to shoot them. So my gun did protect my family in this instance. hm good job waving a gun at the fedex guy raven4267 posted:No, you are part of the population who doesn't have to worry about violent crimes being committed against them on a daily basis. this is true, i'm a pretty centered person with no traces of paranoia e: i'm also not a woman whose spouse insists on owning a gun, who are victimized at much higher rates
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Aug 28, 2015 20:11
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Blue Raider posted:good thing statistics are products of unconnected autists published by organizations i dont give a poo poo about Well, when you end up swallowing your 45, at least you'll still be better than the fag nerds with their math, right?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:13
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Popular Thug Drink posted:hm good job waving a gun at the fedex guy I don't even know if you are serious or not anymore. Should people who live in high crime areas not be worried about crimes being committed against them or something?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:13
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Effectronica posted:Well, when you end up swallowing your 45, at least you'll still be better than the fag nerds with their math, right? ya
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Aug 28, 2015 20:14
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Popular Thug Drink posted:hm good job waving a gun at the fedex guy So now I abuse my spouse also? I am a liar, a murderer, a psychopath, a sociopath, and a spouse abuser because I own a gun?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:15
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Blue Raider posted:good thing statistics are products of unconnected autists published by organizations i dont give a poo poo about Statistically I already shot myself and we are not even having this conversation. Sorry man.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:15
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Popular Thug Drink posted:hm good job waving a gun at the fedex guy My wife has her own gun, so does she abuse me also?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:15
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raven4267 posted:No, you are part of the population who doesn't have to worry about violent crimes being committed against them on a daily basis. Quick reminder that all polling indicates that city residents, black people, gays and women, generally speaking all groups at higher risk of being victimized by crime, all support gun control at higher rates than the rural/suburban white dude demographic tough guy cosplayers seem to universally hail from
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Aug 28, 2015 20:15
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raven4267 posted:So now I abuse my spouse also? I am a liar, a murderer, a psychopath, a sociopath, and a spouse abuser because I own a gun? man you really put the defensive in self defense no really though epidemiologically just by owning a gun you're statistically more dangerous to your spouse than a stranger is
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Aug 28, 2015 20:16
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raven4267 posted:So now I abuse my spouse also? I am a liar, a murderer, a psychopath, a sociopath, and a spouse abuser Who owns a gun.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:16
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raven4267 posted:I don't even know if you are serious or not anymore. Should people who live in high crime areas not be worried about crimes being committed against them or something? Well, unfortunately, math is for women and homosexuals, so I can't demonstrate the rationality of your fear.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:16
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raven4267 posted:So now I abuse my spouse also? I am a liar, a murderer, a psychopath, a sociopath, and a spouse abuser because I own a gun? Don't get dragged down to their level dude. They're literal idiots just wanting to circle jerk and punch strawmen.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:16
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various cheeses posted:You give a little, you get a little. You realize if someone is intent on killing you they aren't going to be crashing through your house announcing themselves, and you're going to die without ever having a moment to go for your gun, which they probably also stole.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:16
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crabcakes66 posted:Statistically I already shot myself and we are not even having this conversation. statistically i died in the late 90s
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Aug 28, 2015 20:17
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I hope that smarmy little turd tsa explains to raven4647 how he's misunderstanding statistics, else he'd be a hypocrite, lower than even a criminal.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:18
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Who What Now posted:You realize if someone is intent on killing you they aren't going to be crashing through your house announcing themselves, and you're going to die without ever having a moment to go for your gun, which they probably also stole. So in your mind it's "nothing I can do, oh well" or "criminal calmly withdraws after I announce the cops are on the way"? Paint me the scenario you're envisioning here, where you die instantly without any chance to defend yourself.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:18
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raven4267 posted:My wife has her own gun, so does she abuse me also? if your spouse abuses you please go talk to the perfidious cops and don't take matters into your own hands and shoot her, as so many gun owners do
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Aug 28, 2015 20:19
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various cheeses posted:They're literal idiots just wanting to circle jerk and punch strawmen. Pot. Kettle.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:19
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various cheeses posted:So in your mind it's "nothing I can do, oh well" or "criminal calmly withdraws after I announce the cops are on the way"? well as long as we're talking about extremely unlikely fantasy scenarios i think in a home invasion the best defense is *rolls dice* iron man on speed dial
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Aug 28, 2015 20:20
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Who What Now posted:You realize if someone is intent on killing you they aren't going to be crashing through your house announcing themselves, and you're going to die without ever having a moment to go for your gun, which they probably also stole. I think we can all agree that if you've pissed off Sam Fischer you had it coming.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:20
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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various cheeses posted:Don't get dragged down to their level dude. As opposed to circle jerking and shooting strawmen
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Aug 28, 2015 20:20
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various cheeses posted:So in your mind it's "nothing I can do, oh well" or "criminal calmly withdraws after I announce the cops are on the way"? I need my firearms for self defense. That's why I own over a dozen of them and practice shooting them at ranges no civilian has ever needed to shoot in self defense.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:21
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Popular Thug Drink posted:well as long as we're talking about extremely unlikely fantasy scenarios i think in a home invasion the best defense is *rolls dice* iron man on speed dial So it's safe to not have any kind of plan, because "it can never happen to me".
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Aug 28, 2015 20:21
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various cheeses posted:So it's safe to not have any kind of plan, because "it can never happen to me". congratulations, you've unlocked a new word: 'unlikely'. use it often, and well
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Aug 28, 2015 20:22
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various cheeses posted:So it's safe to not have any kind of plan, because "it can never happen to me". What's your plan for superflu?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:22
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various cheeses posted:So it's safe to not have any kind of plan, because "it can never happen to me". How about having a better plan?
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Aug 28, 2015 20:22
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DeusExMachinima posted:I think we can all agree that if you've pissed off Sam Fischer you had it coming. Pissing off Sam Fischer is about as likely as a petty thief willing to kill an entire family because "no witnesses", so I thought it was an apt comparison.
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Aug 28, 2015 20:23
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i mean it's far more likely that a gun owner will defend themselves against creeping thoughts of worthlessness and the stark realities of a wasted life but you can think of this as a scary black man if that's what tickles you
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Aug 28, 2015 20:23
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