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BattleMaster: Aug 14, 2000

So what about Wedge and Wes with Horton instead of Luke?

# ? Aug 28, 2015 04:53

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# ? May 17, 2024 00:56

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

I like Luke and X-wings, but Horton with TLT really helps with the arc-dodgers and just all around consistent damage.

I honestly don't know whether I'd go with:

Wedge + Opportunist + R2, Wes + VI, and Horton + TLT + the EPT Astro + VI

or

pretty much the same thing except Wedge has Predator and Proton Torps.

Wedge with Predator and Proton torps has been pretty awesome lately.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 05:01

banned from Starbucks: Jul 18, 2004

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Speaking of Y-wings and dumb, obscure "EU" characters, I've always been disappointed Lt. Telsij, aka the "There's too many of them" guy, isn't in X-wing. I mean, dude survived Endor in a Y-wing, that has to make you an automatic badass, right?

I thought that was the "im hiitttttttttt!!!" guy who flew into a star destroyer.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 05:08

Galaga Galaxian: Apr 23, 2009; What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!

Nope, possibly the same actor, but different helmet. Different dub voice too I think (all the pilots got dubbed over, including a woman dubbed over by a man, hah).

Edit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPZigWFyK2o

Telsij: 2:12 Hazard strip on helmet forehead.
"I'm Hit!" guy: 4:29 Bat icon on helmet chin.
Lady pilot (gets wasted by Squints): 2:32

:goonsay:

[edit]There were also a number of pilots who may or may not have survived Endor, but didn't survive editing and the cuttingroom floor, including a Mon Calamari B-Wing pilot and this ~~elderly~~ badass A-Wing pilot:

Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Aug 28, 2015

# ? Aug 28, 2015 05:11

Kai Tave: Jul 2, 2012; Fallen Rib

zVxTeflon posted:

I thought that was the "im hiitttttttttt!!!" guy who flew into a star destroyer.

That's Arvel Crynyd, the A-Wing pilot whose ability, amusingly enough, allows him to attack ships he's in base-to-base contact with.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:04

Galaga Galaxian: Apr 23, 2009; What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!

~~Whoops, I was thinking of a totally different "I'm hit!" guy when I wrote the above post and didn't even see the part about the SSD, somehow.~~

Nevermind, I had the right one.

Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Aug 28, 2015

# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:07

Foolster41: Aug 2, 2013; "It's a non-speaking role"

Note to self: Stop putting backstabbers (guys with outmanuver) by themselves. Bad habit.

Tonight was the second time I did this.

The game I played tonight was a bit of a nail biter. I made some big mistakes at the beginning (see above).

I was running a rebel XXB with Luke, Wedge and Keyan Farlander. My opponent was using two TIE, a Interceptor and the phantom (of course, she loves that phantom). I believe Dark Beast, Mauler Mithril and Echo (who is pretty scary being able to 2 turn when decloaking instead of using 2 straight)

We traded shots, and I lost Luke with Wedge barely hanging on with 1 shot. At the same time killed a TIE and then I one-shot killed a phantom. We both had badly damage units, the only unit without damage I think was the phantom who had lost both its shields. I then killed in a single shot the phantom (not really expecting it to go down until after the tie was finished off).

My favorite thing was Echo doing a complete circle, ending up in the same spot as the start of the maneuver, just facing a different direction. :aaaaa:

I said before in this thread how I don't understand how to use the phantom's cloak. My opponent doesn't have that problem as much. She used it pretty well.

I also noticed when I came in (but didn't notice until I bought a new figure and some paint) that wave 7 had arrived at my shop. The hound's tooth looks really cool, and is one more temptation towards collecting the scum faction. Also, the K-wing, which I really like and want to get in the near future.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:09

banned from Starbucks: Jul 18, 2004

Kai Tave posted:

That's Arvel Crynyd, the A-Wing pilot whose ability, amusingly enough, allows him to attack ships he's in base-to-base contact with.

Na i meant this guy

# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:10

AndyElusive: Jan 7, 2007

Strobe posted:

I wonder what his pilot ability would be.

"As long as you are within range 1 of another friendly ship, you may not be targeted by attacks if the attacker could target that ship instead."

This is actually really good and I want to use this in casual games. Please come up with a PS and point cost for him?

# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:19

Foolster41: Aug 2, 2013; "It's a non-speaking role"

AndyElusive posted:

This is actually really good and I want to use this in casual games. Please come up with a PS and point cost for him?

So, Anti-biggs? What happens if he's in 1 range with Biggs?

# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:33

Galaga Galaxian: Apr 23, 2009; What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!

Biggs gets shot?

# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:35

BOGO LOAD: Jul 1, 2004; "You know I always had trouble really chewing the fat with my pops. Just listen to him..."

Foolster41 posted:

So, Anti-biggs? What happens if he's in 1 range with Biggs?

# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:40

Galaga Galaxian: Apr 23, 2009; What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!

Isn't Biggs' power that you have to shoot him if he's within Range 1 of a friendly and you can shoot him, while Theoretical Telsij's power is he can't be shot if he's within range 1 of a friendly and you can shoot that friendly?

I don't see the conflict, but I'm also running on about 4 hours of sleep.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 06:44

Foolster41: Aug 2, 2013; "It's a non-speaking role"

Oh wait, yeah. Biggs waves his hands "hey! shoot me!" and Telsij' points to Biggs "Hey shoot him!"
No arguments there.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 07:54

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

AndyElusive posted:

This is actually really good and I want to use this in casual games. Please come up with a PS and point cost for him?

Either PS7, 23 points without an EPT, 24 points with.

Or PS5, 22 points, no EPT.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 13:38

ShineDog: May 21, 2007; It is inevitable!

I'm guessing we'l see the weird bruiser two seater tie fighter with lil micro turret from TFA at some point, the one with the big chunky panel mountings and a rear window to the cockpit?

ShineDog fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Aug 28, 2015

# ? Aug 28, 2015 14:09

Biaga: Oct 27, 2009

I would be down for a TIE with a rear facing firing arch, I am sure everyone would see that as totally fair given the standard maneuverability of most imperial ships.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 18:20

hoiyes: May 17, 2007

I'm guessing imperials won't ever get a small base turret slot (at least not one with EPT) because of ruthlessness. Although a buff big ship with a turret and crew slot could replace the doomshuttle.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 19:29

Orvin: Sep 9, 2006

hoiyes posted:

I'm guessing imperials won't ever get a small base turret slot (at least not one with EPT) because of ruthlessness. Although a buff big ship with a turret and crew slot could replace the doomshuttle.

Isn't that the Decimator?

# ? Aug 28, 2015 19:43

AndyElusive: Jan 7, 2007

Strobe posted:

Either PS7, 23 points without an EPT, 24 points with.

Or PS5, 22 points, no EPT.

Had time this morning :coffee:

I really like the idea of Telsij having an EPT since he survived Endor.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 19:57

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

That is a fine looking card and I would fly that ship.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 20:07

ZachAttack: Mar 17, 2009; Malevolent Hatform; Nap Ghost

AndyElusive posted:

Had time this morning :

I really like the idea of Telsij having an EPT since he survived Endor.

Nice use of badass SW concept art.

Also,

Rebel y-wing with an EPT *swoons*

# ? Aug 28, 2015 20:49

Acebuckeye13: Nov 2, 2010; Ultra Carp

Strobe posted:

That is a fine looking card and I would fly that ship.

This, seriously. I'd love to see what you could do with a Y-Wing that had a native EPT.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 21:15

Slab Squatthrust: Jun 3, 2008; This is mutiny!

hoiyes posted:

I'm guessing imperials won't ever get a small base turret slot (at least not one with EPT) because of ruthlessness. Although a buff big ship with a turret and crew slot could replace the doomshuttle.

Imperials don't even have a ship with a turret slot yet, let alone something with a native turret primary.

Edit: Yet being a strong word, I doubt we will see one with a turret honestly.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 22:42

hoiyes: May 17, 2007

The Gate posted:

Imperials don't even have a ship with a turret slot yet, let alone something with a native turret primary.

Edit: Yet being a strong word, I doubt we will see one with a turret honestly.

Decimator has a 360 primary. But I think the gunner + vader combo on the deci is too expensive to replace the kamikaze doomshuttle.

# ? Aug 28, 2015 22:49

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

I want more Rebel Y-Wing pilots.

General Grisserno
PS8
"When targeting a large base ship, if you have a focus token you may roll 1 additional attack die."
EPT, 25 points

Alternately PS7 (and 24 points), with Lieutenant Telsig being a PS5 (and 22 points).

Strobe fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Aug 28, 2015

# ? Aug 28, 2015 23:34

Kai Tave: Jul 2, 2012; Fallen Rib

AndyElusive posted:

Had time this morning :

I really like the idea of Telsij having an EPT since he survived Endor.

This is really cool.

I got to play today! Got two games in after I picked up my Wave 7 stuff, went 1-1. First game was me loving around with Redline + Deathtrain and a TIE Bomber, which I conceded after it became apparent that I could drag things out but with Deathtrain out of mines and suffering some crits and Redline on his way out (the Bomber was, of course, dead) or I could play a second game, and I chose the latter. The highlight of the game was me swooping up to Chewie in the Falcon with Deathtrain and unloading a perfectly placed Cluster Mine, hitting with all three tokens and rolling six dice...not a one of which came up as a hit :negative:

Second game was a revamped Redline along with Soontir Fel and Tetran Cowall as escorts against my opponent's TLT K-Wing and Chewie. Tetran died like a chump early on but this time Redline earned his points by ripping apart over half of Chewie's hitpoints courtesy of a two volleys of Cluster Missiles. Redline + Cluster Missiles + Fire Control System is pretty good. And Soontir Fel, as per usual, made it all the way to the end virtually unscathed, having taken a single hitpoint from a TLT before blowing the K-Wing out of the sky.

# ? Aug 29, 2015 04:13

Admiral Joeslop: Jul 8, 2010

Played another game tonight. Firespray with Keth and three TIEs for my buddy, two X-wings and a B-wing for me, including Luke and upgrades all around. Came down to the wire, his PS7 TIE against my PS8 Luke. We kept circle around each other until he made a wrong turn and ended up in my sights. Range 1 + Marksmanship + Target Lock, boom. This game is fun.

Is there any reason you can't play Empire vs Empire or similar?

# ? Aug 29, 2015 04:28

Foolster41: Aug 2, 2013; "It's a non-speaking role"

Admiral Joeslop posted:

Is there any reason you can't play Empire vs Empire or similar?

Nope. It's done all the time in tournaments (the rules for tournaments specifically says it's cool)

# ? Aug 29, 2015 04:33

Kai Tave: Jul 2, 2012; Fallen Rib

Yeah, X-Wing follows the same sort of rules that Warmachine does where you can have same faction matchups and both players can even field the same unique pilots/upgrades against each other, it's completely cool.

# ? Aug 29, 2015 04:53

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!

Found out tonight I'm loving terrible at arc dodging. But that's okay.

# ? Aug 29, 2015 05:29

Poopy Palpy: Jun 10, 2000; Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Getting two K-Wings may have been a mistake. My Rebel storage is all hosed up now. Figuring out what the hell to do with the Hound's Tooth is a problem for tomorrow.

# ? Aug 29, 2015 05:32

banned from Starbucks: Jul 18, 2004

Dash and Miranda combo owns
Kavil with TLT owns
Khizraxxkazwhatever having a 1 turn owns

# ? Aug 29, 2015 05:42

Irom: May 16, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

Irom posted:

stubbornly tried for like 3 weeks to make Vessery work a while back, failed

now I'm going to try and make Guri work for some reason

Guri (30)
decoy (2)
stealth device (3)

Boba Fett (39)
bodyguard (2)
recon specialist (3)

Serissu (20)
lightning reflexes (1)

Total: 100

Flew this again, pulled out a victory against a whisper, shadow sq, and 2x TIE list. I think this is the first list I want to fly enough actually practice with. oh god

at one point I was defending Guri with 6 evades with a focus and rolled blank blank blank blank blank evade, managed to keep my stealth device somehow

But then I'm thinking about flying it against 4x TLT BTL Ys or 4x TLT rebel operative w/recon spec lists and I'm all :negative:

# ? Aug 29, 2015 05:45

Kai Tave: Jul 2, 2012; Fallen Rib

zVxTeflon posted:

Dash and Miranda combo owns
Kavil with TLT owns
Khizraxxkazwhatever having a 1 turn owns

Even though Lightning Reflexes is a one-and-done card I really want to try it with Talonbane Cobra, both because A). his name is so incredibly dorky that getting to kill someone's ships using a dude named Talonbane Cobra is its own reward but also B). because already being PS9 means I don't need to worry as much about "do I need VI on this dude" and the possibility of pulling off even a one-use 1-hard S-loop is a pretty useful ace to play when it counts.

My traditional go-to Scum list has been Kavil with the fixin's plus Palob because Palob makes people freak out like no other, and from there I've always filled the rest of the points with someone like Drea Renthal or, on occasion, a Star Viper, but checking the points shows me that I could fit Talonbane into the list just fine without needing to drop anything important on the other two, plus Lightning Reflexes, Glitterstim, and a Stealth Device. I'm eager to give this a try next time I get to play.

I'm not as sure about TLT on Kavil though...yeah it's a turret you can snipe with but that also leaves a dead zone inside range 1 for people to exploit, and based on past performance I feel like the usual 4 dice + TL Blaster Turret attacks dish out heavier hits on average than the two max the TLT puts out. I am however considering putting the TLT on Palob because that gives me a way to punish people who spend their time hanging out at range 3 of him to keep away from his ability. Of course if anyone closes the gap then he's more hosed than a HWK usually is, but oh well.

# ? Aug 29, 2015 05:59

Archenteron: Nov 3, 2006

Got to play two games of xwang tonight (my second and third, respectively, after my semi-disastrous game against twin Aggressors when neither of us were solid on the rules so double-boost-double-evade made things miserable)

Game 1 was one of my doofy Oicunn Ramming Speed gimmick lists I cobbled up awhile back:

code:

Captain Oicunn (50)
Decimator(42), Veteran Instincts (1), Navigator (3), "Dauntless" (2), Anti-Pursuit Lasers (2)

Royal Guard Pilot (25) x 2
TIE Interceptor (22), Autothrusters (2), Veteran Instincts (1)

My opponent had Fat Han + 3 basic Headhunters

I proceeded to immediately forget how Autothrusters worked, bumbled into asteroids, and had both TIEs shot off the field by turn 2. Oicunn proceeded to merrily ram and shoot two headhunters off the field before exploding.

Game 2 was against a different friend who had just bought two TIE Punishers and wanted to test them out, so I pulled out the one Rebel list I had written down, a goon-made XXX list:

Irom posted:

Wes Janson (29)
R2 Astromech (1)
Veteran Instincts (1)

Wedge Antilles (29)
R2 Astromech (1)
Opportunist (4)

Luke Skywalker (28)
R2 Astromech (1)
Lone Wolf (2)
Stealth Device (3)

Total: 99

vs two Punishers, The front-bomb one kitted out with Munitions, cluster mines, proton bombs, and the two-target-lock one with a collection of torpedos and missiles and stuff I didn't look closely. Also one Academy Pilot to round things out. He went first, moved his guys up. I sent everyone up, Wes was able to clip the Academy Pilot. Turn 2, Missile-Punisher gets locks, Bomb-Punisher shoves a cluster mine out, Wes+Wedge proceed to beat the tar out of Bomb-Punisher, leaving it at 2 hull with PS 0 and inability to use most actions. Wedge gets shot up, Luke clips some shields off Missile-Punisher. T3, bomber-punisher drops a proton bomb under Wedge and moves so Wedge ends up ramming it and setting off the bomb, which kills Wedge and the Bomber (double damage crit on the latter). Luke and Wes finish off the other Punisher and a turn or two of TIE-chasing later, it was over. I think that (with rerolls) I rolled something like 90% or greater hits/crits on my red dice, it was nonsensical.

I may have played DMX on my phone during the match (X gon' give it to ya, after all).

Next time both friends with models shows up, I'm going to borrow two Lambda shuttles to run the even doofier ramming gimmick list of Double Ion Shuttles + Ramming Punisher bumper car list :buddy:

# ? Aug 29, 2015 06:47

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Archenteron posted:

Game 2 was against a different friend who had just bought two TIE Punishers and wanted to test them out, so I pulled out the one Rebel list I had written down, a goon-made XXX list:

gently caress yeah X-wings.

I get the warm and fuzzies when people use my lists. Especially the XXX lists.

# ? Aug 29, 2015 06:55

Irom: May 16, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

Strobe posted:

gently caress yeah X-wings.

I get the warm and fuzzies when people use my lists. Especially the XXX lists.

ahem

# ? Aug 29, 2015 07:10

Strobe: Jun 30, 2014; GW BRAINWORMS CREW

Irom posted:

whoever suggested going back to elite Xwings wasn't wrong

just plated a game with this

:the list:

Went back to try and find it, and credit where credit is due. I'll feel smug about the first sentence, though.

# ? Aug 29, 2015 07:15

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# ? May 17, 2024 00:56

Irom: May 16, 2013; by FactsAreUseless

lol no I know

that raw efficacy of high PS elites in that list inspired me to make this list

Ten Numb (31)
veteran instincts (1)
manger canon (4)

Wes Janson (29)
veteran instincts (1)
r2 astromech (1)

Horton Salm (25)
r2-d6 (1)
veteran insticts (1)
twin laser turret (6)

total: 100

all three motherfuckers at PS 10

Wes fires first, strips tokens, Horton follows up with the TLT, hopefully chewing through their shields, then Ten punches through with a (near) guaranteed crit

# ? Aug 29, 2015 07:29

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