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Tighclops posted:Lexx was cool and good gently caress you. Clown dick idiot.
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Aug 31, 2015 01:16
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Nathilus posted:gently caress you. Clown dick idiot. That was probably an episode of Lexx too, you cannot escape
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Aug 31, 2015 01:48
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Gritty realism and tits doesn't actually go that well with Star Trek. Every single Federation character would be Ned Stark in space "No way am I going to threaten to kill children" *Executed* I think DS9 is as close to gritty star trek sci fi as you can get. You had morally grey choices, you had people dying in war and poo poo. Then again they could set it all in the Mirror Universe.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:04
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Ooo, how about for a gritty Trek, they set it away from the Federation, a lone ship, maybe struggling for supplies, having to make hard choices. Hell, maybe half the crew are non-Federation who might not necessarily go along with their ideals. Sounds perfect.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:09
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Entropic posted:You just set up a vacuum chamber with something falling in it and transport it to the top every time it's about to hit the bottom. It will just keep accelerating until you've got it going a significant fraction of the speed of light and then instead of teleporting it to the top of the chamber you teleport it to outside, aimed at someone you don't like.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:21
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Tighclops posted:That was probably an episode of Lexx too, you cannot escape Ha, true. Though that assertion is only true cuz lexx. Touche.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:22
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Or a gritty post 911 terrorist plotline...
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Aug 31, 2015 02:22
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Germstore posted:Or a gritty post 911 terrorist plotline... So we're talking about new trek now? They blew up Vulcan.  them and their drat moon god.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:23
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Nathilus posted:So we're talking about new trek now? No, Enterprise. They scorched central Florida.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:25
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Germstore posted:No, Enterprise. They scorched central Florida. No great loss.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:27
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Nathilus posted:So we're talking about new trek now? 
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Aug 31, 2015 02:27
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happyhippy posted:I loving hated selling shows on VHS back then. Where did you get your Star Trek videos?. Virgin Megastores was one of the most expensive places at £13.99 but John Menzies sometimes had "bargain" two episode videos of earlier series at £11.99! Then Blockbusters started converting to DVDs and they started selling vids for a fiver! That was a good weekend
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Aug 31, 2015 02:50
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I think at some point you have to stop and ask yourself what the value is in retreading the same ground, and how far away from the original concept of a thing can you get before you should really just not call yourself that thing or admit you want something different
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Aug 31, 2015 02:52
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happyhippy posted:I loving hated selling shows on VHS back then. $40 dollars to watch Move Along Home...
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Aug 31, 2015 03:13
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Speaking of Garak, I just found out last week the actor who played him was this guy, from the first Dirty Harry movie: Andy Robinson Here's a decent clip from the film if you youngsters haven't seen the movie, yet:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soZZ_agKT8E The video is a little dark. Garak starts talking about 21 seconds into it.
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Aug 31, 2015 03:21
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Garak is one of my favorite TV characters of all time. He owns so hard.
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Aug 31, 2015 03:31
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And Kai Winn was this woman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onm5gjgL97Y The one thing I really liked about DS9 was that they had really good, award winning actors come in and play guest and recurring character spots.
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Aug 31, 2015 03:47
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Lexx was a terrible, low budget piece of crap. I watched the entire series, though, because it was on tv from 1am-2am, at a time when I went to work at 2am. And back when I didn't have many tv channels and had nothing else to do. The Lexx was a huge ship, the most powerful ship in the galaxy, with 2 people on it, plus a robot head, and a dead guy. The dead guy was had no personality and cared about nothing because he was dead, but he was reanimated, so he would do stuff if they told him to. The captain was an old guy who only cared about sex, but he was an old loser that no one wanted to have sex with. The other person was a female love slave who wouldn't have sex with the captain because he was an old loser. Also, there was an evil robot head who was in love with the love slave, but they couldn't have sex because he was a robot head. So, one dead character, 3 characters who basically only care about sex but can't or won't have it with each other. They travel around the galaxy as the captain looks for sex but never gets it. Is a low budget show with only 4 characters, each with the depth of a potato, a good show? No it isn't.
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Aug 31, 2015 04:31
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Picard: Let this trial show that Data has the rights of a living being, to not be disassembled for some experiment at say-so of a random Starfleet commander! He is alive, and the living have rights! ...a few years pass... Lt. Commander Data: Lore stirred up the Borg something fierce. We must permanently disassemble on my say-so rather than allow him a trial. Picard: Whatev.
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Aug 31, 2015 04:44
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MikeJF posted:Ooo, how about for a gritty Trek, they set it away from the Federation, a lone ship, maybe struggling for supplies, having to make hard choices. Hell, maybe half the crew are non-Federation who might not necessarily go along with their ideals. Sounds perfect. There's coffee in every nebula so that doesn't work.
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Aug 31, 2015 04:45
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Not even John Luck Pickerd could escape the TNG makeup gun. Someone set it to "gruff tradesman"
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Aug 31, 2015 05:32
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imo the only way you could have both a realistic and dramatic scifi series now would be to basically copy dune and make it so its illegal to make AI and most people are religious fanatics and shields cause nuclear explosions so everyone still uses guns and melee weapons, but there could still be weird hosed up genetic engineering thats an uncreative way of doing it, point is that youd have to have some kind of limits set in place that would prevent it from being the culture or whatever boring poo poo a post-singularity show would turn into
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Aug 31, 2015 05:42
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TEAYCHES posted:imo the only way you could have both a realistic and dramatic scifi series now would be to basically copy dune and make it so its illegal to make AI and most people are religious fanatics and shields cause nuclear explosions so everyone still uses guns and melee weapons, but there could still be weird hosed up genetic engineering Well the AI-is-illegal-and-we-have-to-avoid-too-much-computers is what BSG did.
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Aug 31, 2015 06:05
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shadow puppet of a posted:Picard: Let this trial show that Data has the rights of a living being, to not be disassembled for some experiment at say-so of a random Starfleet commander! He is alive, and the living have rights! I like to think that data's trial was not a broad ruling on all AI but just limited to him as he was "unique". Or otherwise that tribunal thing they set up did not have the jurisdiction to bind federation policy to define life at all and the fed higher ups just went with it to not annoy picard or rile up the tumblrinas of the future.
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Aug 31, 2015 07:20
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Nathilus posted:Pleas stop posting about lexx or else I'll post another lexx hate tread. What a stupid loving show. Everyone said not to watch it in the last thread so of course I did and holographic Tim Curry tries to rape a security guard with his robot dick in Episode 2 and gently caress you Lexx rules.
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Aug 31, 2015 07:30
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I had an EQ character named Nathilus. Also, Lexx was an abomination.
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Aug 31, 2015 08:05
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Either the dreaded TNG makeup gun has struck again or Bev auditioning for the part of Galactic Super Tramp on a ship full of perverts on Lexx.
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Aug 31, 2015 08:45
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I've been watching some TNG episodes in HD and holy poo poo high-def makes everything look camp. My favourite things are the carpeting material every non-com seems to be wearing and the paper mache with glossy finish that all asteroids are made of.
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Aug 31, 2015 12:01
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TEAYCHES posted:imo the only way you could have both a realistic and dramatic scifi series now would be to basically copy dune and make it so its illegal to make AI and most people are religious fanatics and shields cause nuclear explosions so everyone still uses guns and melee weapons, but there could still be weird hosed up genetic engineering Or just...make Dune
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Aug 31, 2015 12:42
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skasion posted:Or just...make Dune Yeah, if Showtime just adapted Dune into a 12-episode series, then went on to get some good TV writers to write original follow-up seasons, it'd be excellent.
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Aug 31, 2015 13:03
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skasion posted:Or just...make Dune itd be hard to watch dune without the david lynch character designs and sets and stuff. i guess if they had the right people and the budget
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Aug 31, 2015 13:13
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There was already a Dune miniseries and it was not terrible. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142032/
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Aug 31, 2015 14:12
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shadow puppet of a posted:Either the dreaded TNG makeup gun has struck again or Bev auditioning for the part of Galactic Super Tramp on a ship full of perverts on Lexx. That totally was a Lexx episode, by the way. Maybe two.
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Aug 31, 2015 14:57
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Omi-Polari posted:They don't want glory-hounds like Kirk to go off and conquer his own planet like a starfaring Julius Caesar. (And he totally would if it wasn't for the Prime Directive.) kirk did though, he conquored the gangster planet and made himself emporer
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Aug 31, 2015 15:40
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i almost wondered why a race of people living by the mob code would be pretty much human but then i remembered that a race of ancient humanoids jizzed on every planet in the galaxy and that's why everyone evolved to be humanoid what a terrible episode
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Aug 31, 2015 15:44
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Tighclops posted:That was probably an episode of Lexx too, you cannot escape https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg2JACigJE8
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Aug 31, 2015 16:14
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Entropic posted:There was already a Dune miniseries and it was not terrible. It was pretty bland but did a decent job of getting the whole plot on screen on a reasonable budget. Children of Dune took this to theretofore-unknown frontiers of blandness which is pretty remarkable for an adaptation of a novel which culminates with its protagonist covering himself in an irremovable armor of sentient worms. It's really unambitious and disappointing after watching something as batshit as Lynch's Dune, which casts whole swathes of plot by the wayside together with any desire to actually make sense but really successfully evokes the bizarre religious and political atmosphere which the whole story is about. The most you can say for the miniseries is that it wasn't butchered by executive meddling. A better one could definitely be done but I have to assume it won't be. Dune's themes would be really uncomfortable for a TV audience these days.
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Aug 31, 2015 16:22
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skasion posted:It was pretty bland but did a decent job of getting the whole plot on screen on a reasonable budget. Children of Dune took this to theretofore-unknown frontiers of blandness which is pretty remarkable for an adaptation of a novel which culminates with its protagonist covering himself in an irremovable armor of sentient worms. It's really unambitious and disappointing after watching something as batshit as Lynch's Dune, which casts whole swathes of plot by the wayside together with any desire to actually make sense but really successfully evokes the bizarre religious and political atmosphere which the whole story is about. The most you can say for the miniseries is that it wasn't butchered by executive meddling. A better one could definitely be done but I have to assume it won't be. Dune's themes would be really uncomfortable for a TV audience these days. I find it interesting that adaptations of Dune end up either completely literal and dull or utterly batshit insane, with nothing in between.
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skasion posted:A better one could definitely be done but I have to assume it won't be. Dune's themes would be really uncomfortable for a TV audience these days. Human-induced climate change. The idea that superheroes are horrible. A society built after people violently rebelled against computers. And the protagonists in the first book are essentially the Islamic State in space -- who kill their own children -- and the villains are homosexual pederasts. I don't see any problems. Kids on social media will love it!
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