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If you're doing extreme primals you kind of should have to do the extra stuff to prep for it, including cross leveling complimentary classes. It's why I need to level MRD to get mercy stroke for PLD 
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Wiped 10 times on BisEX last night and never got into phase 3. 
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BisEX is great in that it really forces DPS players to get good and know what they're doing to clear. BisEX is horrible in that it really forces DPS players to get good and know what they're doing to clear.
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How feasible would it be to level mining and blacksmithing up as I level up my first class? I have a decent amount of money and weapons and armors are coming in from quests and poo poo but on the next class I don't imagine I'll have either of those coming in (not enough quests I think? Hence the 50% armory bonus or whatever) so I figure it'd be nice to always have up to date weapons since I seem to be only getting them every 5 levels when I do a class quest anyway, plus updated weapons on other classes when I don't have access to quests would be nice. Would this be incredibly masochistic and I should just wait? The whole gear conundrum seems kinda more important for tanks anyway for threat and mitigation purposes. At least with armor classes of the same type like tanks or mdps can use the same armor. Do people usually just buy their leveling poo poo on the market board? I haven't checked it out yet but if its anything like other games I've played decent gear while leveling from the AH was stupid expensive
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Great White Hope! posted:Wiped 10 times on BisEX last night and never got into phase 3. It took me 5 instances of wiping multiple times on BisEX before figuring that fight out and getting a group that could do it. Don't worry, you'll get it eventually  And yeah this is one of the times where XIV not having DPS meters really kind of ruins things because nothing really forces people to  at DPS unless it's a major DPS check.
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Aug 31, 2015 01:18
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I have enough gold for a Company Tabard, I'm weirdly tempted to buy one. All I spend money on is glamours anyway, at this point.
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Eerkik posted:How feasible would it be to level mining and blacksmithing up as I level up my first class? I have a decent amount of money and weapons and armors are coming in from quests and poo poo but on the next class I don't imagine I'll have either of those coming in (not enough quests I think? Hence the 50% armory bonus or whatever) so I figure it'd be nice to always have up to date weapons since I seem to be only getting them every 5 levels when I do a class quest anyway, plus updated weapons on other classes when I don't have access to quests would be nice. Would this be incredibly masochistic and I should just wait? The whole gear conundrum seems kinda more important for tanks anyway for threat and mitigation purposes. At least with armor classes of the same type like tanks or mdps can use the same armor. To answer your question: yeah, you can no problem. You can decide to do as little or as much crafting / gathering as you want. From 1-50 I think the best way to get gear once you get into the 20s is to just get gear at your grand company when you join one, and then augment it from dungeon drops. Once you hit 50, go for poetics gear and that will get you to ilvl 120 real quick. You can get gear on the MB but I rarely do. I either craft it myself, use dungeon drops or have someone else craft it for me. The best way to level up crafting is to do all of them at once honestly. There's no bad time to start. Job quests for crafting classes will give you crafting gear if you need it. Start miner anyways since that feeds the majority of crafting classes (BSM, ARM, GSM, and then that will also feed gear into other classes). Just know when you join your GC you can get crafting manuals that increase the amount of exp you get up to a certain point so you can power level everything to 15, which is where you get your cross class stuff.
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Aug 31, 2015 01:28
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Eerkik posted:How feasible would it be to level mining and blacksmithing up as I level up my first class? I have a decent amount of money and weapons and armors are coming in from quests and poo poo but on the next class I don't imagine I'll have either of those coming in (not enough quests I think? Hence the 50% armory bonus or whatever) so I figure it'd be nice to always have up to date weapons since I seem to be only getting them every 5 levels when I do a class quest anyway, plus updated weapons on other classes when I don't have access to quests would be nice. Would this be incredibly masochistic and I should just wait? The whole gear conundrum seems kinda more important for tanks anyway for threat and mitigation purposes. At least with armor classes of the same type like tanks or mdps can use the same armor. These would be fine, especially if you have a friend or access to a goon FC to craft stuff with your mats. Bear in mind that once you get to level ~20, your GC is a good source of weapons. There are a few holes (between 30-39, between 44-50), but those can be filled with dungeon drops or a little crafting. Also, the real gain with crafted weapons is through HQ, so if you can't reliably HQ them it'd be best to ask a higher level crafter to make them for you. I don't advocate purchasing too much off the market board since money is tight early on (though not as tight as it was at 2.0). It's not a bad idea to look for occasional bargains. As above, a friend/FC mate who can craft for you is ideal. Many are willing to help if you bring the mats.
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I'll make a lot of lower level stuff even without the mats because it's dirt cheap to make.
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Sentient Data posted:Right now it's basically just a superretainer that can only be made by FCs, but by the time you're in the 7-digit gil range who knows what'll be available (pretty sure they've mentioned at least adding a cutscene of FC members riding it) It is confirmed that in 3.1 FC airships will be used for missions specifically where people board the ships to go to remote islands which will have to be cleared before gatherers in the fc can collect valuable goods there. These will also to a degree be common areas not specific to a given FC so it will be time for goon sky pirates 
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Aug 31, 2015 01:51
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Aug 31, 2015 02:16
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Great White Hope! posted:Wiped 10 times on BisEX last night and never got into phase 3. I was in a group today that had no problem in phase 1 and 2 but would constantly completely fall apart in phase 3. I'm never going to get that loving primal done.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:22
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Does anyone know if Patience II has any effect on 2.0-2.55 legendary fish ?
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Aug 31, 2015 02:41
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Sendo posted:Does anyone know if Patience II has any effect on 2.0-2.55 legendary fish ? All fisher abilities work on all old fish. Why wouldn't they?
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cheetah7071 posted:All fisher abilities work on all old fish. Why wouldn't they? Well I more specifically meant if the "increases the chance of catching a larger fish" applied to 2.0 legendary fish, as with how much of a nightmare fishing has always been it wouldn't surprise me if it didn't. I only have about 10 big fish left of the 2.0-2.55 so I figured I might make an attempt at them if Patience II would make it easier.
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POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:
So is PVP in FFXIV actually good now?
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Kalenn Istarion posted:So is PVP in FFXIV actually good now? I guess that depends on what you didn't like about it before
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Aug 31, 2015 03:44
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Kalenn Istarion posted:So is PVP in FFXIV actually good now? Seal Rock is a lot of fun if you familiarize yourself with your role. It's pretty zergy, but even having a little bit of an idea of what you're doing means you'll be able to do well.
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Niton posted:Seal Rock is a lot of fun if you familiarize yourself with your role. It's pretty zergy, but even having a little bit of an idea of what you're doing means you'll be able to do well. How do you Black Mage in it? I've never been able to land two casts on a person, and usually one only if I got them by surprise.
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kafziel posted:How do you Black Mage in it? I've never been able to land two casts on a person, and usually one only if I got them by surprise. Stand above people, hang out in groups, or use the limit break when it's up and wreck people. You're going to be pretty worthless on your own but if you move well and know when you can get off a cast you'll do a great amount of dmg to people.
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Eerkik posted:How feasible would it be to level mining and blacksmithing up as I level up my first class? I have a decent amount of money and weapons and armors are coming in from quests and poo poo but on the next class I don't imagine I'll have either of those coming in (not enough quests I think? Hence the 50% armory bonus or whatever) so I figure it'd be nice to always have up to date weapons since I seem to be only getting them every 5 levels when I do a class quest anyway, plus updated weapons on other classes when I don't have access to quests would be nice. Would this be incredibly masochistic and I should just wait? The whole gear conundrum seems kinda more important for tanks anyway for threat and mitigation purposes. At least with armor classes of the same type like tanks or mdps can use the same armor. It really depends on what you mean by feasible. One thing to keep in mind is that crafting in this game isn't like WOW or other similar MMOs. The system here very much plays to the fact that you have completely unrestricted access to every class. You can't just pick up mining and blacksmithing and be totally self-sufficient. Blacksmithing will require materials made by pretty much every other crafting class, as well as botany and even fishing. You'll also need good enough gear for both classes as you're leveling up. As for what you get out of it, blacksmithing only produces weapons and crafting/gathering tools, and only for a handful of classes. Meanwhile, the weapons you get from quests and dungeons will be more than sufficient on your first class. I would advise against getting into crafting until you get your first class to at least 50. It's a huge money and time sink before that with a very marginal payoff.
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kafziel posted:How do you Black Mage in it? I've never been able to land two casts on a person, and usually one only if I got them by surprise.
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Sendo posted:Well I more specifically meant if the "increases the chance of catching a larger fish" applied to 2.0 legendary fish, as with how much of a nightmare fishing has always been it wouldn't surprise me if it didn't. I only have about 10 big fish left of the 2.0-2.55 so I figured I might make an attempt at them if Patience II would make it easier. I'd always assumed this meant catching larger fish as in the measurement/collectability, not literally larger species of fish. I can't seem to find concrete info either way though nor have I noticed much of a difference.
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Megaflare posted:I'd always assumed this meant catching larger fish as in the measurement/collectability, not literally larger species of fish. I can't seem to find concrete info either way though nor have I noticed much of a difference. Whenever I use Patience II at the Thaliak River, I get a lot more highland perch rather than illuminati perch. Highland perch are big fish, in the sense that they give your line a big tug. The actual size of the fish is irrelevant. Speaking of which, don't use Patience II when you're fishing for illuminati perch.
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Aug 31, 2015 04:47
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Honestly as a Black Mage in Seal Rock you could do literally nothing but spam Sleep and that'd arguably be contributing more than trying to hit people with your long cast time damage abilities.
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Highland perch aren't particularly rare though, almost equal as illuminati with leeches. I don't use P2 there when going for illuminati simply because I'd rather save the gp and get more uses from hookset but I'll still have annoying highland streaks. Ed: But again, there doesn't seem to have been any testing done on it. Couldn't hurt to press if you're just going for the straight catches though if you do it. Unsmart fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Eerkik posted:How feasible would it be to level mining and blacksmithing up as I level up my first class? I have a decent amount of money and weapons and armors are coming in from quests and poo poo but on the next class I don't imagine I'll have either of those coming in (not enough quests I think? Hence the 50% armory bonus or whatever) so I figure it'd be nice to always have up to date weapons since I seem to be only getting them every 5 levels when I do a class quest anyway, plus updated weapons on other classes when I don't have access to quests would be nice. Would this be incredibly masochistic and I should just wait? The whole gear conundrum seems kinda more important for tanks anyway for threat and mitigation purposes. At least with armor classes of the same type like tanks or mdps can use the same armor. I sell my HQ quest rewards from Heavesward content for 20k-60k on average with a 200k outlier on Balmung. YMMV.
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Great White Hope! posted:Wiped 10 times on BisEX last night and never got into phase 3. At least you don't have my Ravanna Ex problem where nobody seems willing to attempt it at all in PF. If I find one party in the day it's a miracle!
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The Black Stones posted:At least you don't have my Ravanna Ex problem where nobody seems willing to attempt it at all in PF. If I find one party in the day it's a miracle! I see about 10 Ravana EX a day, there might be 1 bisex a week.
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TheShadowAvatar posted:I sell my HQ quest rewards from Heavesward content for 20k-60k on average with a 200k outlier on Balmung. YMMV. I'm pretty sure he's talking about leveling a second class from 1-50, not 51-60. Like other people have said, I think it would be ideal to find a goon who is willing to help you out instead of leveling BSM and MIN by themselves, but there is no reason you can't do that. If you want to level those classes for their own merits, then I think you should go for it. If you don't want to craft/gather, then your grand company and class quests should keep you well armed.
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Mordiceius posted:I see about 10 Ravana EX a day, there might be 1 bisex a week. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the server I'm on has decided on giving up for the most part.
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That's also largely because there's little reason to run Bismarck EX more than once. Some of the weapons look cool, but most people just view it as a stepping stone to Ravana EX which just has better weapons overall.
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The Black Stones posted:Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just the server I'm on has decided on giving up for the most part. Come to excal. If you have a couple of real life friends that are on a different server, convince them to move to excal as well. I've done so and the results are good.
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Thumbtacks posted:I have enough gold for a Company Tabard, I'm weirdly tempted to buy one. All I spend money on is glamours anyway, at this point. wait, is that how we get them? I assumed I had to some "favors" for an FC leader.
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Tenik posted:I'm pretty sure he's talking about leveling a second class from 1-50, not 51-60. bsm also requires ltw, crp, gsm occasionally, alc occasionally to make things alc loses the "occasionally" in heavensward since nearly everything seems to loving want glue you can't say "i'm gonna make weapons" and just level bsm, crafting is seriously a game of all or nothing. the only one where you can do that really is cul.
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Ouhei posted:wait, is that how we get them? I assumed I had to some "favors" for an FC leader. I think he means buy them off the MB.
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Ravana had the strongest weapons available until recently, while Bismark's was worse than the upgraded law. Either you're farming Bismark for glamour, or you're just doing it the once to move on and rejoice in the glory of combat.
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Elentor posted:I think he means buy them off the MB. Ah, yeah I want one but I bet they're insane on the MB. Maybe eventually I'll convince someone to make me one...
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Crime and high drama is afoot in the Young Money fc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb3YKzg1lTk I bet they don't have all the airships tho. 
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