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The left gets a lot of flack for being fractious, but it's important to remember the far-right is also made up of circular firing squads.
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The left gets a lot of flack for being fractious, but it's important to remember the far-right is also made up of circular firing squads. This is literally 8chan as a political movement. Shitposting is just their way of pinching each other's asses.
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Aug 29, 2015 22:54
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I thought I should post this here, since it's probably the most relevant venue: The first video from this debate has been doing the rounds on right-wing/anti-SJ Reddit and Tumblr circles, with your typical common-or-garden "YEAH SOCK IT TO THOSE SJWS!" commentary. The full debate is worth a watch, mostly because the first two "proposition" bods are Brendan O'Neill arguing that transphobia is as laudable as fighting for gay rights, and British arch-conservative shock jock columnist Peter Hitchens being comically evil.
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Aug 30, 2015 01:37
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Gertrude Perkins posted:I thought I should post this here, since it's probably the most relevant venue: The first video from this debate has been doing the rounds on right-wing/anti-SJ Reddit and Tumblr circles, with your typical common-or-garden "YEAH SOCK IT TO THOSE SJWS!" commentary. The full debate is worth a watch, mostly because the first two "proposition" bods are Brendan O'Neill arguing that transphobia is as laudable as fighting for gay rights, and British arch-conservative shock jock columnist Peter Hitchens being comically evil. Got as far as seeing the bow tie before closing the window. Sorry, man.
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Aug 30, 2015 01:41
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Peter Hitchens and the late Christopher Hitchens were great because you got to see the two alternate versions of the same person.
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Aug 30, 2015 01:53
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Anybody who sincerely wears a bow tie is poo poo. This includes the eleventh doctor. Doctor who is also poo poo.
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Aug 30, 2015 02:26
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Aug 30, 2015 02:36
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Is the woman Tatiana Maslany? Because I'm not exactly jazzed about an image macro that wants me to hate Tatiana Maslany
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Aug 30, 2015 02:38
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I like the unnecessary quotation marks around ISIS.
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Aug 30, 2015 02:58
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DarklyDreaming posted:Is the woman Tatiana Maslany? Because I'm not exactly jazzed about an image macro that wants me to hate Tatiana Maslany I'm never sure who or what these NRx twitter memes are trying to rail against.
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Aug 30, 2015 03:02
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Merdifex posted:I'm never sure who or what these NRx twitter memes are trying to rail against.
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Aug 30, 2015 03:21
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John Big Booty posted:The kind of fanatic who objects to statues of traitors in public parks. The day we can't celebrate slave-owning traitors who led enemy forces against American troops is the day truth, heritage, and strong masculine things die.
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Aug 30, 2015 04:13
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To be fair, they did kill a hell of a lot of people from Ohio.
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Aug 30, 2015 05:22
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Maxwell Lord posted:I like the unnecessary quotation marks around ISIS. Gertrude Perkins posted:I thought I should post this here, since it's probably the most relevant venue: The first video from this debate has been doing the rounds on right-wing/anti-SJ Reddit and Tumblr circles, with your typical common-or-garden "YEAH SOCK IT TO THOSE SJWS!" commentary. The full debate is worth a watch, mostly because the first two "proposition" bods are Brendan O'Neill arguing that transphobia is as laudable as fighting for gay rights, and British arch-conservative shock jock columnist Peter Hitchens being comically evil. Is this a joke about the right in this case literally ignoring thousands of years of history?
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Aug 30, 2015 09:30
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Cingulate posted:Is this a joke about the right in this case literally ignoring thousands of years of history? That'd be too clever, even if a bullshit point. The "joke" is about SJWs being against CSA flag and CSA reverence. -- And equating that with ISIS smashing millenia of Mesopotamian history. Merdifex has a new favorite as of 15:10 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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Aug 30, 2015 13:07
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The Vosgian Beast posted:The left gets a lot of flack for being fractious, but it's important to remember the far-right is also made up of circular firing squads. Eh, since WWII the far-right cooperates pretty well, actually. Maybe there's a little sniping back and forth, but it's not really comparable to what you see on the left. Roger Griffin wrote a really interesting article on this subject called "From slime mould to rhizome: an introduction to the groupuscular right." http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0031322022000054321#.VeMjVflViko
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Aug 30, 2015 16:38
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Mineaiki posted:Eh, since WWII the far-right cooperates pretty well, actually. Maybe there's a little sniping back and forth, but it's not really comparable to what you see on the left. "Cuckservatives"
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Aug 30, 2015 16:56
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Merdifex posted:That'd be too clever, even if a bullshit point. The "joke" is about SJWs being against CSA flag and CSA reverence.
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Aug 30, 2015 17:31
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The Vosgian Beast posted:"Cuckservatives" You have a point, but I'll take being called a cuckold over being brutally murdered in my sleep any day.
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Aug 30, 2015 21:08
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Mineaiki posted:You have a point, but I'll take being called a cuckold over being brutally murdered in my sleep any day. Not familiar with how neo-Nazi street politics go, then?
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Aug 30, 2015 21:14
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John Big Booty posted:The kind of fanatic who objects to statues of traitors in public parks. I don't think traitors should necessarily be banned from public parks, but at least we could pick treason that wasn't about slavery? Like, I think at least one public park should honor Aaron Burr and his hilarious political career.
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Aug 30, 2015 21:17
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point of return posted:I don't think traitors should necessarily be banned from public parks, but at least we could pick treason that wasn't about slavery? Like, I think at least one public park should honor Aaron Burr and his hilarious political career. John Brown is always a good goto.
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Aug 30, 2015 21:34
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Mineaiki posted:Eh, since WWII the far-right cooperates pretty well, actually. Maybe there's a little sniping back and forth, but it's not really comparable to what you see on the left. I mean, this is true, but in practice neonazis hate each other nearly as much as they hate the rest of us. I think it's similar to socialist parties: it's people being upset about who shagged who.
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Aug 31, 2015 01:22
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Cingulate posted:Yud's story is basically our brains are big in order to gently caress each other over - to outsmart each other in a battle of wits. And then, he feels that people who invent useful tools for "the masses" are not "evolutionarily rewarded" (aka  gettin' laid all day erry day because of his abnormally large brain!) and is thus super butt-hurt that women do not clamor over his penis, because of an especially-efficient recursive statement, etc.. And because he has invened an entire garbage computer programming language he has invented EVERYTHING so everybody needs to just please touch his penis.Also fat beardy fedora wearer.
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Aug 31, 2015 04:28
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coyo7e posted:Also fat beardy fedora wearer. The one manchild thing Yudkowsky hasn't done is wear a fedora. It's only a matter of time before he dons a trilby and wears ill-fitting suits.
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Aug 31, 2015 04:32
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Curvature of Earth posted:The one manchild thing Yudkowsky hasn't done is wear a fedora. It's only a matter of time before he dons a trilby and wears ill-fitting suits. Oh dang, I guess I'm just projecting his bald-fro vampire shtick to someone who probably covers that bald spot with a suitably-brimmed piece of headgear. How can you remain that pale without ever wearing a hat?  It is kind of amazing that someone figured out a line of thinking that distills to Moore's Law meaning that they deserve to get laid more than Newton.
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Aug 31, 2015 04:37
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Cingulate posted:They're called illiteracy.
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Aug 31, 2015 04:52
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I thought Yud was the one with a live in sex slave?
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Aug 31, 2015 05:15
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coyo7e posted:because he has invened an entire garbage computer programming language Sham bam bamina! posted:prescriptivism
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Aug 31, 2015 08:03
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Cingulate posted:You seem to have mixed up your Dark Enlightenment Thinkers. That'd be Moldbug, not Yud, the latter of which is actually hardly member of the Dark Enlightenment. Actually Eliezer also invented a garbage programming language, but it's more vapourware than Moldbug's. quote:Flare will be the first annotative programming language. Annotative programming, if done properly, has the potential to be the successor to object-oriented programming, in the same way that object-oriented programming succeeded procedural programming, procedural programming succeeded assembly language, and assembly language succeeded raw hexadecimal numbers Qwertycoatl has a new favorite as of 08:29 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Aug 31, 2015 08:16
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Qwertycoatl posted:Actually Eliezer also invented a garbage programming language, but it's more vapourware than Moldbug's. That is the most words I've ever seen someone waste trying to say "next big thing." E: also I took a look over his document and I legit cannot tell how his new category differs from a well patterned oop system. Like, he's basically suggesting "the Unity game engine as a programming language." Unless I've missed some key point in there. Somfin has a new favorite as of 09:10 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Aug 31, 2015 09:00
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Yud is the kind of person who seems self absorbed enough to claim he invented the wheel from first principles while on the bus so I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't anything new in there and he just doesn't have the expertise in the field he thinks he has.
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Aug 31, 2015 11:20
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Bistromatic posted:Yud is the kind of person who seems self absorbed enough to claim he invented the wheel from first principles while on the bus so I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't anything new in there and he just doesn't have the expertise in the field he thinks he has. He actually dedicates an entire paragraph of his programming language overview to explaining that multiple GUIs should be able to handle the code in different ways, and never once mentions compiling or compilers. Also he basically spends the entire section describing a hybrid of the Composite and Visitor programming patterns. Which I have actually implemented in my own little Java game engine, it's not even hard. I think he just doesn't understand the difference between a language and a program.
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Aug 31, 2015 11:44
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coyo7e posted:they deserve to get laid more than Newton.
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Aug 31, 2015 12:30
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Somfin posted:I think he just doesn't understand the difference between a language and a program.
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Aug 31, 2015 12:32
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Wesley thinks that the only reason people think that Moldbug is bullshit is that Moldbug is verbose, instead of being wrong, and bullshitting all over the place. I guess ideologues will defend their idols to any extent, with any old nonsensical argument.
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Aug 31, 2015 12:44
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Qwertycoatl posted:Actually Eliezer also invented a garbage programming language, but it's more vapourware than Moldbug's. I wish there were enough meat here to actually make fun of (the section on memory management comes close).
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Aug 31, 2015 14:35
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Qwertycoatl posted:Actually Eliezer also invented a garbage programming language, but it's more vapourware than Moldbug's. But none of those ways of programming "succeeded" any of the others, they're all still used for different purposes. This guy talks about programming languages as if they're the row of gradually more human-like ape-men used by the lay public as a symbol for evolution (which, like programming, does not work that way).
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Aug 31, 2015 14:57
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Merdifex posted:Wesley thinks that the only reason people think that Moldbug is bullshit is that Moldbug is verbose, instead of being wrong, and bullshitting all over the place. I guess ideologues will defend their idols to any extent, with any old nonsensical argument. You know even when he's not inventing stupid terminology and writing like poo poo, he's either being evil or being empirically wrong.
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Aug 31, 2015 15:03
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Merdifex posted:Wesley thinks that the only reason people think that Moldbug is bullshit is that Moldbug is verbose, instead of being wrong, and bullshitting all over the place. I guess ideologues will defend their idols to any extent, with any old nonsensical argument. Who is this person, other than a crazy man who pretends to not know what NRx stands for? Hate Fibration has a new favorite as of 15:24 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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