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mcmagic posted:It's hard to say that without seeing what is in standard at the time. It's possible that Narset might not fit in anything but even that doesn't mean it's not a powerful card.. I agree with you here, I feel it's similar to Monastery Mentor in that if it's not playable in standard, a large portion of the reason for that is their intent for standard in general isn't very favourable for cards that need a large volume of cheap noncreature spells.
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mcmagic posted:It's hard to say that without seeing what is in standard at the time. It's possible that Narset might not fit in anything but even that doesn't mean it's not a powerful card.. The 4 mana haymaker has been the most cohesive part of Standard design since Innistrad. If it suddenly stops I will be happy because I hate haymaker magic but you can't afford to be loving around with minor value at that CMC against that philosophy. Especially if you end up on the draw. edit: Actually you can probably trace this back slightly further to Scars block, but at the time of Scars block there was a lot of other stuff available to you that you didn't just die to a resolved Hero of Bladehold. rabidsquid fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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rabidsquid posted:The 4 mana haymaker has been the most cohesive part of Standard design since Innistrad. If it suddenly stops I will be happy because I hate haymaker magic but you can't afford to be loving around with minor value at that CMC against that philosophy. Especially if you end up on the draw. 4 mana haymakers were a core thing before then weren't they? JtMS, Hero of Bladehold, BBE were all front and center in their respective standards E: editing your posts is cheating
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TheKingofSprings posted:It's one of my favorite cards ever. I mean, seagate oracle isnt particularly exciting
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Aug 31, 2015 15:05
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TheKingofSprings posted:I agree with you here, I feel it's similar to Monastery Mentor in that if it's not playable in standard, a large portion of the reason for that is their intent for standard in general isn't very favourable for cards that need a large volume of cheap noncreature spells. Mentor has less time to be a huge player in standard but I agree with the premise but Mentor is just like Young Pyro in that it's much more powerful the more the card pool of stuff you can play it with gets. TheKingofSprings posted:4 mana haymakers were a core thing before then weren't they? JtMS, Hero of Bladehold, BBE were all front and center in their respective standards Also switching gears for a second. If Modern Burn is a legal deck the idea that BBE and probably even Jace is banned is a joke. I played against it 4 out of 5 rounds at the PIQ yesterday and gently caress that deck.
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Bread Set Jettison posted:I mean, seagate oracle isnt particularly exciting What the gently caress, this card trades a point of toughness off the most exciting card of all-time, Horned Turtle, in exchange for getting to look at two cards and draw one. What could possibly be more exciting than this
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Mulldrifter is slightly more exciting than Sea Gate Oracle, but not much.
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Mulldrifter and Sea Gate Oracle are TOTALLY different, Mulldrifter gets you insane card draw value and kills them twice as fast as you're friend Sea Gate Oracle, who looks at hedrons and mostly exists to block. edit: I forgot to mention that Mulldrifter is a loving dope luminescent wiggle snake. rabidsquid fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Bread Set Jettison posted:I mean, seagate oracle isnt particularly exciting If you're not excited by the 1/3 drawing you the best of your next two cards I don't want to know you Also I agree with you Rabidsquid, efficient removal like Path and Go For The Throat does a lot to mitigate those powerful creatures. Without them you're stuck having to do much the same as the midrange decks or be outgrinded.
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Aug 31, 2015 15:11
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Top 10 fun creatures to cast: 1. Mulldrifter 2. Sea Gate Oracle 3. Phyrexian Rager 4. uuuh Mystic snake?
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mcmagic posted:This is wrong.
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Aug 31, 2015 15:17
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netcat posted:Top 10 fun creatures to cast: Wall of Omens, Wall of Blossoms
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Aug 31, 2015 15:18
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netcat posted:Top 10 fun creatures to cast: 5. Thragtusk 6. Restoration Angel  e: honestly "top 10 fun creatures to cast" and "top 10 fun creatures to flicker" are very similar lists
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Someone's never hardcast an Emrakul.
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What are some creatures that are fun to cast but not fun to flicker? There's like... Teferi? The original Eldrazi titans? Goblin Guide. Cascade guys if you're into that, but Cascade always frustrates me to play with even more than to play against.
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Attorney at Funk posted:What are some creatures that are fun to cast but not fun to flicker? There's like... Teferi? The original Eldrazi titans? Goblin Guide. Bloodbraid Elf
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Yawgmoth posted:Which one guaranteed draws you a card and which one can guaranteed use its minus after playing it? 5 mana to draw a card for a life and not protect itself is pretty terrible... 5 mana to destory a creature at sorcery speed is pretty terrible... and that ultimate is pretty lackluster too... You just can't be doing that for 5 mana in standard. It's way too durdley.
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Attorney at Funk posted:What are some creatures that are fun to cast but not fun to flicker? You have bad opinions on what's fun to cast. I've been having a lot of fun casting Brago lately. He flickers everything! Including planeswalkers!
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Aug 31, 2015 15:29
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mcmagic posted:5 mana to draw a card for a life and not protect itself is pretty terrible... 5 mana to destory a creature at sorcery speed is pretty terrible... and that ultimate is pretty lackluster too... Sarkhan was arguably worse and still saw play
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TheKingofSprings posted:Sarkhan was arguably worse and still saw play Sarkhan's +1 is much better. I don't think he's worse.
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Sarkhan has the luxury of being compared to Stormbreath Dragon, a card that Is Good In Standard, while also being at any time a 5 mana kill your courser in red, which Red didn't have before Roast.
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Count Bleck posted:Sarkhan has the luxury of being compared to Stormbreath Dragon, a card that Is Good In Standard, while also being at any time a 5 mana kill your courser in red, which Red didn't have before Roast. Sarkhan has proven to be meh but at least it wins the game if unanswered. This previewed walker does nothing.
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Aug 31, 2015 15:48
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You're all forgetting Coiling Oracle as a great creature to play. Not enough people play Coiling Oracle. And in response to the guy from last page, I will be at a WMCQ on the 5th. Modern format. We'll see if I get to play, I'm reserve judge.
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netcat posted:Top 10 fun creatures to cast: Solemn Simulacrum. Any clone effect.
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netcat posted:Top 10 fun creatures to cast: Rune-Scarred Demon Massacre Wurm Sphinx of Uthuun
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mehall posted:You're all forgetting Coiling Oracle as a great creature to play. Not enough people play Coiling Oracle. Thats in CA right?
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DoctorOozy posted:Reddit spikes are pushing the name "Tango" for the new duals, because it takes two to... If the Scars ones are "fast lands" these are obviously "slow lands".
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DoctorOozy posted:Reddit spikes are pushing the name "Tango" for the new duals, because it takes two to... Saw it on Tumblr too, it's a terrible name.
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Entropic posted:If the Scars ones are "fast lands" these are obviously "slow lands". I agree, it also has the bonus of not being a retarded name.
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Hhaa what you guys are crazy we've always referred to a land coming in to play untapped as tangoing. edit: People rushing to try to decide this is the most idiotic nerd horse poo poo
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DoctorOozy posted:I agree, it also has the bonus of not being a retarded name. This, please. The only thing appropriate to nickname "Tango" is something to do with cash.
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mcmagic posted:Sarkhan has proven to be meh but at least it wins the game if unanswered. This previewed walker does nothing.
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Hey they announced the payouts for leagues! 8 tix / 80 points entry. Swiss style payouts. 5 rounds 5-0: 2 boosters and 150 play points 4-1: 1 & 120 3-2: 80 (break even) then 40,20,10 Better than I was expecting actually...
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Yawgmoth posted:Except guaranteed draw you cards (which narset doesn't do half the time) and kill poo poo by himself (which narset doesn't do at all). I don't know if he's going to be widely playable but he could definitely be viable in UB control.
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A 5-mana planeswalker that -3s to kill a thing and then sticks around threatening to do it again is basically what Vraska was and she saw play. And this one has a better +1.
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Entropic posted:A 5-mana planeswalker that -3s to kill a thing and then sticks around threatening to do it again is basically what Vraska was and she saw play. And this one has a better +1. Vraska was really bad and her -3 was much better than this.
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rabidsquid posted:What the gently caress, this card trades a point of toughness off the most exciting card of all-time, Horned Turtle, in exchange for getting to look at two cards and draw one. What could possibly be more exciting than this three words: Siege Gate Rhino
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I really want a Sea Gate Oracle reprint even if it's only good in limited. That card just feels good to cast.
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Entropic posted:If the Scars ones are "fast lands" these are obviously "slow lands". They're clearly "basic bitches"
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