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Cliff Racer posted:The dinosaur? Durkon.
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Well, with the caveat that they have to deanimate Durkula before they can resurrect Durkon. It's not Final Fantasy rules all the time.
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Aug 30, 2015 16:48
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Again, I just want to remember that raising as a Vampire takes 2-3 days. We can't assume that cleric was raised by now. EDIT Also he said he had already used most of his spell slots already anyway, so he wouldn't be useful in a fight regardless. Who What Now fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Aug 30, 2015 |
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Aug 30, 2015 17:42
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Who What Now posted:Again, I just want to remember that raising as a Vampire takes 2-3 days. We can't assume that cleric was raised by now. Durkon could have cheated with the staff the same way Malack did, though. And a spell-less vampire is still a vampire.
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Aug 30, 2015 18:29
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Who What Now posted:Again, I just want to remember that raising as a Vampire takes 2-3 days. We can't assume that cleric was raised by now. Even if he had all of his spell slots, he's not one of the priests under the protection of the meeting. If he was turned and raised quickly, he's not doing something fighting related in a room full of what are probably the highest level clerics on the planet that would matter. Taking down the meeting hall might be an option though, seeing as he and the other clerics of the stone helped build it.
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Aug 30, 2015 18:32
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jng2058 posted:Durkon could have cheated with the staff the same way Malack did, though.
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Aug 30, 2015 19:14
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And don't forget the new vampire gets his spells at sundown. And no one would know better which load bearing pillar would be the perfect place for an stone-to-mud spell. Or stone-to-flesh if he was feeling particularly icky.
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Aug 30, 2015 22:00
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Random Stranger posted:And no one would know better which load bearing pillar would be the perfect place for an stone-to-mud spell. Or stone-to-flesh if he was feeling particularly icky. Heh, Roy would.
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Aug 30, 2015 22:02
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The fight's going to be a back-and-forth thing, where Roy will end up losing, only for Belkar to return and tip the scales before dying.
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Aug 30, 2015 22:54
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nimby posted:The fight's going to be a back-and-forth thing, where Roy will end up losing, only for Belkar to return and tip the scales before dying. Maybe Belkar final breath will be when the gods destroy the planet.
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Aug 30, 2015 23:10
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I'm calling it now: the world ends, gets remade, and the last book is about the remade order's new lives with radically changed pasts, excluding those members who've been completely retconned out of existence and are therefore remembered by no-one (but the effects they had on others still hold true for some unexplained reason). The villain will be Belkar Prime, a version of Belkar from "our" universe, who complains about everything.
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Aug 31, 2015 01:38
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Ponsonby Britt posted:It's interesting to me how everyone reacts to Roy fighting Durkula. Mostly, it's what you would expect. The clerics who wanted to save the world (Thor, Loki, Frigg) are glad to see him, while the clerics who wanted to destroy it are upset (Fenrir, Heimdall, Tyr). Durkula is happy, but I read that as just being happy that he gets to murder Roy in front of Durkon. But there are two people who break the pattern. As previously pointed out, Hel is also glad that Roy is intervening; and the cleric of Odin looks displeased. Is that just because they know that Roy is way underpowered to fight Durkula? Or is it something to do with secret knowledge of the rifts? On that note, I just realized something - where is the high priest of Balder running off to in such a hurry? Granted, his god's reason for voting "no" was basically "eh, it's what Odin and Thor are voting" but you'd think he'd be more relieved about Roy jumping in like this. But his actions and expression certainly seem to imply otherwise.
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Aug 31, 2015 02:26
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W.T. Fits posted:On that note, I just realized something - where is the high priest of Balder running off to in such a hurry? Granted, his god's reason for voting "no" was basically "eh, it's what Odin and Thor are voting" but you'd think he'd be more relieved about Roy jumping in like this. But his actions and expression certainly seem to imply otherwise. He's off to get the representatives of the demigods so they can cast the tiebreaker vote.
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Aug 31, 2015 03:26
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He could be going to get the Demigods' High Priests
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Aug 31, 2015 03:26
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Rygar201 posted:That's not a DM fiat. Sure it is. It's an object who's rules are decided entirely by the DM, aren't supported by any rulebook to speak of, and exists to guide the narrative wherever the DM drat well pleases. What is the effect of throwing the Lich into the Gate? Whatever the DM needs it to be.
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Aug 31, 2015 04:57
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Captain Oblivious posted:Sure it is. It's an object who's rules are decided entirely by the DM, aren't supported by any rulebook to speak of, and exists to guide the narrative wherever the DM drat well pleases. I'd say it's not a fiat because it's only happening because of a player being proactive. If Xycon had bitten Snarl'd while the Order watched on, that would be a fiat, IMO.
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Aug 31, 2015 05:40
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Rygar201 posted:I'd say it's not a fiat because it's only happening because of a player being proactive. If Xycon had bitten Snarl'd while the Order watched on, that would be a fiat, IMO. Six of one, half a dozen of another. In either scenario, the DM creates rules on the fly to enable a given outcome. The player providing you an excuse doesn't change the fact that you're fundamentally doing the same thing.
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Aug 31, 2015 05:56
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Captain Oblivious posted:Six of one, half a dozen of another. In either scenario, the DM creates rules on the fly to enable a given outcome. The player providing you an excuse doesn't change the fact that you're fundamentally doing the same thing. But it had already been established that evil things die when they touched the gate- not in front of the PCs, but in comic. The DM was applying rules that existed before the encounter, not making them up on the fly.
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Aug 31, 2015 06:01
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Captain Oblivious posted:Six of one, half a dozen of another. In either scenario, the DM creates rules on the fly to enable a given outcome. The player providing you an excuse doesn't change the fact that you're fundamentally doing the same thing. Providing your player's the means to tell their story is a lot different than just telling them things happen as they watch. It's kind of an important distinction.
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Aug 31, 2015 06:11
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Just read strip #1000, goddamn  My guess at what will happen now: Roy kills Durkula, Hel goes "too bad, I still have two clerics in the room, my vote still counts" while presenting the two clerics Durkula vamped a while ago, Roy can't do anything since he's exausted from the fight, Belkar shows up and stabs the two vampire clerics to death, but since he's not their bodyguard he has to be killed per the rules, prophecy fulfilled.
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Aug 31, 2015 07:47
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Captain Oblivious posted:Six of one, half a dozen of another. In either scenario, the DM creates rules on the fly to enable a given outcome. The player providing you an excuse doesn't change the fact that you're fundamentally doing the same thing. Dude there was a whole sequence where Zyklon was sending minions to touch the gate and die. Rich spends vast effort to appease sneering nerds that his pop-lit webcomic adheres closely enough to a specific outdated set of bloated and arbitrary game rules, and when he does depart from those rules he generally calls it out and sticks a flag on it.
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Aug 31, 2015 08:07
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Mikl posted:Just read strip #1000, goddamn I like it, except Belkar only kills one vampire cleric before dieing, leaving Hel with one cleric to tie up the vote. Then the High Priest of Banjo shows up and casts the tie breaker. 
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Aug 31, 2015 08:16
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Captain Oblivious posted:Sure it is. It's an object who's rules are decided entirely by the DM, aren't supported by any rulebook to speak of, and exists to guide the narrative wherever the DM drat well pleases. Um excuse me but what is that instrument that you mentioned the orchestra were playing? A tuba? :flicks through books: No, it's not in any of the published material. This is just another example of GM fiat, Richard. The RPGA shall hear of this!
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Aug 31, 2015 09:06
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sebmojo posted:Dude there was a whole sequence where Zyklon was sending minions to touch the gate and die. Rich spends vast effort to appease sneering nerds that his pop-lit webcomic adheres closely enough to a specific outdated set of bloated and arbitrary game rules, and when he does depart from those rules he generally calls it out and sticks a flag on it. 
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Aug 31, 2015 13:10
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Roy will win this, no one is factoring in the swing potential of Knowledge: Architecture.
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Aug 31, 2015 14:32
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New Comic!: #1001: Will save the Day!  And a great call back to On the Origin of PC's by HPoH to try and convince Roy that he's really Durkon. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 16:28 on Aug 31, 2015 |
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Aug 31, 2015 16:10
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I laughed at the sound effect being literally "snapoutta"
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Aug 31, 2015 16:16
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I'm glad Rich just made On the Origin of PCs available digitally. That's a pretty cool callback there in panel five.
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Aug 31, 2015 16:19
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Mikl posted:Just read strip #1000, goddamn Where are you getting two clerics from? Besides the high priest of Elemental Earth what other cleric did we see Durkula completely drain on screen?
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Aug 31, 2015 16:22
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The second one was the "if the trip wasn't so dangerous". It cut away but was definitely what we were shown. http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0996.html
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Aug 31, 2015 16:43
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I am not liking the looks of those first two hits. Roy seems to be having trouble breaking through the DR.
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Colonel Cool posted:I am not liking the looks of those first two hits. Roy seems to be having trouble breaking through the DR. I mean, he is a fighter. His will save would normally be abysmal, but he has better-than-average mental attributes, so his will save is probably average overall. e: Oh, damage resistance, not the will save. reading hard 
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Aug 31, 2015 17:19
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Colonel Cool posted:I am not liking the looks of those first two hits. Roy seems to be having trouble breaking through the DR. His sword hasn't done the glowy thing yet.
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Aug 31, 2015 17:20
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Colonel Cool posted:I am not liking the looks of those first two hits. Roy seems to be having trouble breaking through the DR. I thought the same thing, so I looked it up. Vampires only have DR 10. With a big +5 sword and lots of strength, Roy should be doing more than 10 damage every hit. Maybe he rolled so badly that he wasn't doing damage significant enough to show, or maybe that clank is just failing to hit Durkula's high AC.
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Aug 31, 2015 17:36
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It's pretty amazing for Roy actually because Durkula phrased his attempt at domination exactly the way most philosophically in line with Roy's beliefs; Roy must've rolled a nat 20 there with those negative modifiers.
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Aug 31, 2015 17:37
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Wittgen posted:I thought the same thing, so I looked it up. Vampires only have DR 10. With a big +5 sword and lots of strength, Roy should be doing more than 10 damage every hit. Maybe he rolled so badly that he wasn't doing damage significant enough to show, or maybe that clank is just failing to hit Durkula's high AC. It's probably that. Durkon's AC was "into tha stratosphere" 850 strips ago, let alone before all this. With weapon specialization, a +5 sword, giant strength etc. Roy's certainly kept pace, so that was probably just a crap attack roll.
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Raenir Salazar posted:It's pretty amazing for Roy actually because Durkula phrased his attempt at domination exactly the way most philosophically in line with Roy's beliefs; Roy must've rolled a nat 20 there with those negative modifiers. To be fair, "you like talking so much" could be used to dominate literally every character in the strip 
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Aug 31, 2015 17:46
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Also if whoever is dming the game is halfway decent he's probably feeding Roy mondo circumstantial bonuses for will saves
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Aug 31, 2015 18:01
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Calaveron posted:To be fair, "you like talking so much" could be used to dominate literally every character in the strip Counter-point: V, most of the time.
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It also doesn't help that continuing to pretend to be Durkon at this point is easily the best way possible to piss off Roy, and Durkula probably has no idea why.
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