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Roy still think it's Durkon, but an eviler version. He doesn't realize there's been a switch.
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I'm betting that soon we'll see Durkon's spirit talking to the HPoL inside his head, because this seems like something Durkon should be reacting to.
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Aug 31, 2015 21:06
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Raenir Salazar posted:Roy still think it's Durkon, but an eviler version. He doesn't realize there's been a switch. Roy's probably noticed Durkon's dropped all semblances of an accent.
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Aug 31, 2015 22:35
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Calaveron posted:Roy's probably noticed Durkon's dropped all semblances of an accent. He commented on it in the previous strip.
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Aug 31, 2015 22:41
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Roy said Belkar was right all along, and what Belkar's been saying all along is that that vampire is not Durkon. The previous strip was just Roy adding up the evidence.
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Aug 31, 2015 23:23
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Interesting that they have a rule against changing votes when a vote can be nullified just by having the representing cleric leave the room.
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Aug 31, 2015 23:27
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Sefer posted:Interesting that they have a rule against changing votes when a vote can be nullified just by having the representing cleric leave the room. Usually the 'no-kill' clause prevents this, but it seems a proxy's presence is required for a vote to count. As the other dude said though, the rules don't take into account Roy doing a really, really bad job at being a bodyguard.
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Aug 31, 2015 23:38
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Heimdall's cleric could nullify his yes vote by just leaving the room, making it a tie no longer. Rich might not have thought that plothole through.
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Aug 31, 2015 23:41
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Was the "cleric cannot leave the room" rule stated at any point? Because Balder's priest was totally about to leave the room.
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Aug 31, 2015 23:54
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Tenebrais posted:Was the "cleric cannot leave the room" rule stated at any point? Because Balder's priest was totally about to leave the room. Yeah, I have a feeling that "leaving the room" and "your proxy being dead" is an important distinction. As for why the rules are so convoluted and byzantine? Their gods, that's their whole schtick.
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Sep 1, 2015 00:12
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Calaveron posted:Also if whoever is dming the game is halfway decent he's probably feeding Roy mondo circumstantial bonuses for will saves Yeah, I would expect "fighting for literally the lives of everyone on the planet plus the souls of millions of dwarves plus the freedom of everyone on the next planet that may exist" to give a few bonuses.
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Sep 1, 2015 00:26
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Random Stranger posted:Yeah, I would expect "fighting for literally the lives of everyone on the planet plus the souls of millions of dwarves plus the freedom of everyone on the next planet that may exist" to give a few bonuses. So should fighting to dominate millions, if that's your alignment.
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Sep 1, 2015 00:51
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I meant more that Roy, a character that has shown to have tremendous resolve and will power (in the traditional sense), who has taken on huge responsibility over the wellbeing of the world, has willingly and consciously decided to fight his best friend, who is quickly showing himself to not be so, and is actually a creature of evil masquerading as a kind, loyal man. Those are bonuses out the rear end I think.
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Sep 1, 2015 01:02
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Sir Kodiak posted:So should fighting to dominate millions, if that's your alignment. Yes, but that's only if that's a real prospect.
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Sep 1, 2015 03:24
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The easy Durkon tempted Roy might have been one of the best character centered jokes of the entire comic.
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Sep 1, 2015 04:26
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Who What Now posted:Yeah, I have a feeling that "leaving the room" and "your proxy being dead" is an important distinction. So yeah, the cleric of Heimdall could be ordered to "Leave the room" by Heimdall. Via a dagger to their own throat. There are so many high level clerics around ready for a res that that wouldn't even be an unreasonable ask.
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Sep 1, 2015 09:51
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It's pretty clear that Hel has thought the political details of this plan through. Every gambit to foil Hel's plan that depends on details that Hel would have known in advance is not going to work, because of reasons. We're not being told these reasons, and that's fine with me - I'm not so sure I want this to be resolved via us finding out that gee, Hel forgot to take into account subsection 3.0.0.0.C of the Godsmoot rules, which we just now found out about and resolve everything neatly. Nor do I care for prolonged speeches explaining how she did take subsection 3.0.0.0.C into account after all. The setup here is that if it weren't for Roy and Belkar, Hel's plan would have worked perfectly - and it's up to Roy and Belkar to change that outcome somehow. I don't know how that's going to happen, but it's certainly not going to happen in a way that would have been possible if they weren't there in the first place.
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Sep 1, 2015 10:04
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I'm pretty sure it's going to be Elan, official proxy of Banjo, who saves the day, and the only difference this little fight will make by itself is that Durkula needs to die at some point, and right after Roy realizes the truth is as good a time as ever. Roy thinking Durkola's destruction would alter the vote's outcome is just a flawed assumption based on a vague understanding of the rules.
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Sep 1, 2015 11:15
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Well, fair enough, I would file Elan and Banjo under "details that Hel would not have known in advance".
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Sep 1, 2015 11:19
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Honestly it'd be funnier if Elan showed up being all "I've got this, Roy!" and then Banjo voted yes
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Sep 1, 2015 12:08
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Suaimhneas posted:Honestly it'd be funnier if Elan showed up being all "I've got this, Roy!" and then Banjo voted yes Banjo is a capricious god.
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Sep 1, 2015 13:31
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I like the theory someone here stated, that the gods actually are going to be unable to destroy the world regardless. And also: the world was created partly as a prison for the Snarl, and if we go by the interpretation of events given by Hinjo (which might or might not be inaccurate) then the prison only worked because the gods sprung it as a trap on the Snarl. Is that same trick gonna work twice?
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Sep 1, 2015 14:27
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Who What Now posted:Yeah, I have a feeling that "leaving the room" and "your proxy being dead" is an important distinction. As for why the rules are so convoluted and byzantine? Their gods, that's their whole schtick. Even if they wanted to, they may not be able to bring themselves to change their vote.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:29
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wall monitor posted:I like the theory someone here stated, that the gods actually are going to be unable to destroy the world regardless. Assuming Hinjo was correct, the Snarl isn't capable of seeing the prison being built. Or at least wasn't the first time, so it might not be able to the second time either.
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Sep 1, 2015 15:48
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I'm not sure my heart can handle such blazing comic update speed.
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Sep 1, 2015 16:09
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So, why didn't she just send one of her regular priests to vote?
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Sep 1, 2015 18:54
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trucutru posted:So, why didn't she just send one of her regular priests to vote? Due to an agreement (a lost bet?) with Thor, Hel doesn't get priests.
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Sep 1, 2015 18:56
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trucutru posted:So, why didn't she just send one of her regular priests to vote? She doesn't have priests. There's a strip where she or Yurkon agonizes that every time she grants clerichood to a promising wight or whatever, it ends up slain by adventurers. Durkula is not only her high priest, he's her only priest.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:23
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Kajeesus posted:Yurkon
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Sep 1, 2015 19:36
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Like Durkon mashed up with a Yeerk.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:38
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Misandu posted:Like Durkon mashed up with a Yeerk. Yeerkon? I read animorphs. I'm that guy. Hork-Bajir. Andaalite. What.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:39
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Misandu posted:Like Durkon mashed up with a Yeerk. This is more apt than it should be.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:50
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The first time we see the evil spirit who interacts with Durkon, he says says "yarf" instead of 'barf," so he's always been a Yurkon to me. The yeerk thing was only pointed out to me later, but it's a more reasonable explanation. Durkula is the vampire body that interacts with Roy and co., while Yurkon is the spirit.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:45
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Kajeesus posted:She doesn't have priests. There's a strip where she or Yurkon agonizes that every time she grants clerichood to a promising wight or whatever, it ends up slain by adventurers. Durkula is not only her high priest, he's her only priest. I still have a vague feeling like this might end up with the tie unable to be resolved and someone needing to find Redcloak because the Dark One is the only god left, but it doesn't quite seem to fit.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Seems like the other gods are keeping her down the same way they do Redcloak. Speaking of him, doesn't look like he will show up, but boy if he ever finds out he could have, and by rights should have, been the tiebreaker and wouldn't have needed to bother with Xykon, he will be so angry. I'm pretty sure the Dark One isn't allowed to vote seeing as he was never allowed in the gods' secret club.
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My bullshit theory: Belkar comes in, realizes the situation, and murder-shanks one of the yea proxies, rendering it no longer a tie, knowing full well that he'll be killed for violating the rules. He goes out on a heroic (yet still kind of evil) note!
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AnoHito posted:I'm pretty sure the Dark One isn't allowed to vote seeing as he was never allowed in the gods' secret club. Wouldn't he be considered a demigod at bare minimum? Which means that he's entitled to join the tiebreaker vote with the rest of the demigods.
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Zonekeeper posted:Wouldn't he be considered a demigod at bare minimum? Which means that he's entitled to join the tiebreaker vote with the rest of the demigods. Ehhhh. for one thing, the whole thing is the direct result of his plan. For another, he's a second-class citizen at best among the gods.
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seaborgium posted:Assuming Hinjo was correct, the Snarl isn't capable of seeing the prison being built. Or at least wasn't the first time, so it might not be able to the second time either. Not quite; according to Hinjo's version of events, the Snarl could see the gods weaving the strings together again, but since it was a creature of pure chaos, it couldn't understand the pattern to what they were weaving until it was too late. He also said that it just lashed out at the gods randomly, for no reason other than being a manifestation of godly rage and irritation given form. Personally, I've really started to doubt that. I'm guessing that the reason it originally attacked the gods was because they kept yanking and pulling at the stuff making up its form, which was causing it pain. It lashed out in self-defense. When they wove its prison around it, it didn't react because it wasn't in pain and it didn't think they were attacking it. As others have pointed out, in the comic, it only seems to lash out at people who are tampering with the rifts or what's on the other side of them. When the Order was staring at the ocean, nothing happened; but when the Empire of Sweat started trying to drain it, it provoked the biggest reaction we've seen yet.
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W.T. Fits posted:but when the Empire of Sweat started trying to drain it, it provoked the biggest reaction we've seen yet. The Empire wasn't up to the draining yet; it was just reacting to Laurin scrying through the rift.
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