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marktheando posted:Oblivion was good. crabcakes66 posted:Oblivion and FO3 were both good and fun games. Faded Mars posted:Fallacy of composition. Just because one/more of the VAs has some undesirable qualities does not mean the game will also have them. Let's just instead say it doesn't exactly make me positive in anticipation.
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Really if you didn't enjoy Oblivion and Fallout 3 despite their flaws you probably aren't going to like this game either.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:04
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Like any Bethesda game, Fallout 4 will become more terrible the older and more obsolete it becomes.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:06
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Yeah nowadays with Skyrim and New Vegas out there I'd have a hard time going back to Oblivion/FO3 but at the time they were great.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:22
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EDIT: ^^^Exxxaaaaaactlyyyyyyy^^^ This comes up in every Fallout-TES thread and here it comes again: If you play a game for more than 20 hours you've lost the right to complain...honestly that number could even be closer to 5 or 10 hours. Nobody puts a gun to your head and forces you to play a video game, you can stop anytime. If you continue to play it but you're not enjoying it there must be some reason, for instance: -Getting paid -Want to go online and talk poo poo but don't want to sound uninformed -Only own one video game for some reason -Doing it to seem cool to all of your friends and family -Obsessive Compulsive or some other form of mental illness I'm mainly thinking of Oblivion here. Yeah it's a shite game in retrospect, I would never play it again now that Skyrim is a thing (and I believe I'll feel the same way about Skyrim when the next TES game comes out [the lovely online one doesn't count]) but it would be disingenuous for me to say that it's a bad game. At the time I really enjoyed it and that has to count for something.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:30
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i have recently been playing through fo3 and nv and while nv has cool improvements that I missed going through 3 i somehow managed, through pure force of will that apparently borders on herculean for some folks, enjoyed playing both video games
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Sep 1, 2015 14:35
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They're really good games, glad you enjoyed them.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:40
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sparatuvs posted:anything at pax? Merch store and a model Mr. Handy that shouted bad jokes at passerby (  ) Nothing new afaik.
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Sep 1, 2015 14:50
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Mordaedil posted:Gives me an idea of the level of expectations you people have. I apologize for liking a thing you didn't like. That was my mistake, especially after you've put in so much work continuously reminding the thread how much you aren't going to like FO4 since the beginning.
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Sep 1, 2015 15:09
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I loved Fallout 3 at the time, but once New Vegas came out I never really had much desire to play it again. I loved Skyrim when it came out, but I didn't care about the setting or story much so I didn't get really into it. I'm pretty drat confident I'll love Fallout 4 when it comes out. It'll take a lot for it to eclipse New Vegas for me, but I'm optimistic that it'll be a cool experience based on the stuff they've shown.
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Sep 1, 2015 15:21
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counterfeitsaint posted:I apologize for liking a thing you didn't like. That was my mistake, especially after you've put in so much work continuously reminding the thread how much you aren't going to like FO4 since the beginning. Some goons just hate everything either because they are broken manchildren or they are sadbrains or who knows what. The best thing is to just enjoy the things you enjoy and put dumb spergs on your ignore list.
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Sep 1, 2015 15:39
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If you do not enjoy video games I enjoy than you are a sperg and subhuman.
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Sep 1, 2015 15:43
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Crabtree posted:If you do not enjoy video games I enjoy than you are a sperg and subhuman. You don't have to enjoy them, but you don't get to say they are absolute garbage when there are plenty more people who like it.
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Sep 1, 2015 16:05
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Mr. Pumroy posted:i have recently been playing through fo3 and nv and while nv has cool improvements that I missed going through 3 i somehow managed, through pure force of will that apparently borders on herculean for some folks, enjoyed playing both video games Yeah I started playing 3 as well, I find it as fun as New Vegas. It has it's problems just like New Vegas has it's own problems.
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Sep 1, 2015 17:16
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It may be hyperbole, but sometimes it feels like Duke Nukem Forever levels of "it's going to be amazing guys!" in here.Cojawfee posted:You don't have to enjoy them, but you don't get to say they are absolute garbage when there are plenty more people who like it. Actually, thats exactly what having an opinion means, interestingly enough. A. Beaverhausen fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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Sep 1, 2015 18:24
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I'm wondering now as the game draws closer, how will it treat the female characters? Will they be well rounded and independent characters or just a collection of tropes of background decoration, damsels and rewards for players.
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Sep 1, 2015 18:31
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even if you thought F3 and NV were poo poo they're at least funny/fun poo poo. yes it's retarded I steal an apple and a whole town wants to kill me but it's also funny when you blow up a ghoul rebel leader and his wife with a rocket launcher. they were never not entertaining even if they looked like dogshit and the writing was stupid garbage. it's probably worse to end up with an AssCreed game which were unfun, garbled messes you couldn't even break in amusement F4 looks like it's basically "we made it not look ugly as gently caress, now you can build your own murderbase and guns and iron man armor" I think that is v. cool. it probably will never be the ultra tight technical marvel GOTY it could be but it looks like a very fun thing I won't return after a week like batman: arkham rear end in a top hat
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Sep 1, 2015 18:36
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I like to play video games That's why I play video games Thanks
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Sep 1, 2015 19:01
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SKELETON GHOST posted:I like to play video games hmmm... suspicious
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Sep 1, 2015 19:06
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A. Beaverhausen posted:It may be hyperbole, but sometimes it feels like Duke Nukem Forever levels of "it's going to be amazing guys!" in here. No, it really really really loving doesn't.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:06
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A. Beaverhausen posted:It may be hyperbole, but sometimes it feels like Duke Nukem Forever levels of "it's going to be amazing guys!" in here.  this thread is relentlessly negative what the hell are you talking about?
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Sep 1, 2015 19:10
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Kinda unfair to compare DNF to Fallout 4 in any way
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Sep 1, 2015 19:12
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As long as FO4 doesn't do the New Vegas thing "you must go this way first or die over and over". The best part of FO3 was leaving the vault and going any direction you wanted to do whatever the hell you wanted. Also the NV setting being in a desert made the whole apocalyptic world seem not that apocalyptic but rather like I was just wandering around some present day low income American midwest landscape.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:12
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Psychotron posted:As long as FO4 doesn't do the New Vegas thing "you must go this way first or die over and over". The best part of FO3 was leaving the vault and going any direction you wanted to do whatever the hell you wanted. agreed
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Sep 1, 2015 19:20
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A. Beaverhausen posted:It may be hyperbole, but sometimes it feels like Duke Nukem Forever levels of "it's going to be amazing guys!" in here. lol you are delusional. This thread, just like every other Bethesda pre-release game thread that came after Oblivion has a massive number of people making GBS threads on it even though we know almost nothing about it.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:42
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Psychotron posted:As long as FO4 doesn't do the New Vegas thing "you must go this way first or die over and over". The best part of FO3 was leaving the vault and going any direction you wanted to do whatever the hell you wanted. I already made this point. You're 100% correct, but no one here is going to agree.
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Sep 1, 2015 19:47
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Man Whore posted:lol you are delusional. This thread, just like every other Bethesda pre-release game thread that came after Oblivion has a massive number of people making GBS threads on it even though we know almost nothing about it. When did I say it didn't? Some people just want this thread to be a hugbox with no negative comments at all. Thankfully that Games died long ago. frajaq posted:Kinda unfair to compare DNF to Fallout 4 in any way Sure, which is why I I said it was hyperbole A. Beaverhausen fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Sep 1, 2015 |
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Sep 1, 2015 19:58
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A. Beaverhausen posted:It may be hyperbole, but sometimes it feels like Duke Nukem Forever levels of "it's going to be amazing guys!" in here. You must have an extremely vague recollection of everything about DNF and it's fans haha
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Sep 1, 2015 20:02
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Martout posted:You must have an extremely vague recollection of everything about DNF and it's fans haha I remember Axemaniac, that beautiful bastard.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:03
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A. Beaverhausen posted:When did I say it didn't? Some people just want this thread to be a hugbox with no negative comments at all. Thankfully that Games died long ago. Hugbox games never existed as long as you used proper punctuation and spelling you could poo poo in any thread.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:18
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Not true. The Dragons Age 2 thread of all places became an enforced hugbox, to name an example.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:20
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So according to THIS perks have levels and level up on their own? So you pick Strong Back early, it starts at lvl 1 and as you level it gets xp and levels up itself. From an OXM interview: "You'll still level up via XP, and each level increase will still give you a point to spend on a perk, but now those perks have varying XP levels of their own. It's perk-ception, essentially, and means that, should you theoretically play long enough to max out every tier of every single one gaining untold buffs and no doubt all kinds of horrendous real-world illnesses in the process – you’ll top off with a total of 275." If this is true, it would offer some flexibility in builds. Instead of commiting to one perk for a number of levels, you could just grab it early and just play until it hits max level.
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Sep 1, 2015 20:27
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Hmm I kinda liked the previous theorized perk system better. But at least now I can see the benefit of increasing Intelligence!
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Sep 1, 2015 20:40
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Okay, so you buy Gun Nut to use guns, then as you shoot guns, you level up the perk so you get better at guns. Then you buy Light Step and have to walk over bear traps to level it up until you can levitate over land mines?
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Sep 1, 2015 20:44
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Rabidredneck posted:So according to THIS perks have levels and level up on their own? So you pick Strong Back early, it starts at lvl 1 and as you level it gets xp and levels up itself. From an OXM interview:
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Sep 1, 2015 20:53
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I think the journalist is incompetent and it's just the same "perks have multiple ranks" information we've heard before.
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Rabidredneck posted:So according to THIS perks have levels and level up on their own? So you pick Strong Back early, it starts at lvl 1 and as you level it gets xp and levels up itself. From an OXM interview: 7c Nickel posted:I think the journalist is incompetent and it's just the same "perks have multiple ranks" information we've heard before. That's because Bethesda has been providing insane information for their flagship video game: quote:"We're completely redesigning the way you think about perks and traits." Cream-of-Plenty fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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A. Beaverhausen posted:It may be hyperbole, but sometimes it feels like Duke Nukem Forever levels of "it's going to be amazing guys!" in here. Can you provide an example of "Duke Nukem Forever levels of 'it's going to be amazing guys!'" from the last few pages? I don't think someone saying, hey, I liked the previous games these guys made, I bet I'll like this game too, seems especially egregious or hugboxy, but maybe we have different standards for these things? Crabtree posted:If you do not enjoy video games I enjoy than you are a sperg and subhuman. If you relentlessly complain about an unreleased game that you've never played, then kinda, yeah. There's a difference between criticizing something and just endlessly making GBS threads on it.
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Toddler and Hines remain the most entertaining part of any Bethesda release because they are 100% baldfaced lie hype machines. It's great. Also, you're a fool if you're in this thread talking about how you didn't like Fallout 3 while at the same time even hinting that you might somehow like Fallout 4. That's just not how Bethesda works. "I hated Fallout 3 and expect to maybe like Fallout 4" is pants on head retarded. The people who liked Fallout 3 and are guessing that Fallout 4 will be "loving awesome" are less retarded than you.
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Cojawfee posted:You don't have to enjoy them, but you don't get to say they are absolute garbage when there are plenty more people who like it. Why can't they say its garbage because you like it? Also half the fun of this thread is making fun of poo poo so don't you dare say that Cream-of-plenty can't Monsterbrew all night long. Anything Bethesda or Obsidian is fair game here, friendo. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Sep 2, 2015 |
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