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Having the lead Bajoran character in DS9 be someone not associated with the Federation or Starfleet was a much better decision in the end anyways.
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one of the cool things about ds9 was that terrorists were explicitly the good guys and the good guys were explicitly terrorists. Ro wasn't a terrorist though, she was just slightly less bland than the rest of tng
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Sep 2, 2015 05:27
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I thought it was because they'd have to pay royalties to the dude who originally came up with Ro every time she appeared on DS9? That was Tom Paris/Nick Locarno in Voyager.
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Sep 2, 2015 05:28
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French Canadian janeway was absolutely atrocious
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At this point it should be cheap enough to make franchised regional star treks like there are regional The Offices and regional singing idol shows. They could hot-bunk the sets with round the clock single-language teams of actors. It would be amazing if they had freedom to add local flavor in the script. German TNG where every plot revolves around Geordischmett extracting higher and higher levels of efficiency out of the warp core. A Turkish and Greek co-production of Deep Space Nine where the Cardassians and Bajorans are fixated on arguing over who invented which dish first. A Chinese TNG where every season's two part finale is always that year's set of Academy entrance exams and every mention of time travel & holodeck alternate history has been stripped out by government censors, the airtime to be replaced with earnest speeches by an admiral admonishing all students to go to bed now as the rest of the show is not worth watching. If I were a better person I'd make this happen and the world would be a better place for it.
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Sep 2, 2015 06:40
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I would watch an overly dramatic Spanish soap opera voyager.
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Sep 2, 2015 06:47
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For the first time in my life I actually want to finish watching Enterprise so I can figure out which ham-fisted stereotype it best goes with.
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Sep 2, 2015 06:56
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My ideal Trek play-around thing right now would be on Netflix and structured like AHS with 12-episode-seasons with each season being a totally new setting and cast. Hell, they could run that and an Enterprise-G series in parallel.
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id watch an enterprise g series in the alternative history started by the last star trek movies where vulcan and romulus are both blown up to hell and the implications of this idk who could be captain in a new tng style series though im not hip enough on modern actors there would definitely have to be a cardassian crewman tho i think theres a lot of traction there
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Sep 2, 2015 07:00
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Thinking about this further, Babylon 5 may have just been Albanian DS9 with the extensive chess references removed and replaced with expensive CGI fighter combat.
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TEAYCHES posted:there would definitely have to be a cardassian crewman tho i think theres a lot of traction there They already have every new show feature a crewman from a group that was introduced as a blood enemy in a previous one. TNG? Klingon in Starfleet. DS9? Ferengi in Starfleet. Voyager? Maquis in Starfleet. (Enterprise doesn't count.) Clearly we're due for a Cardassian ensign. And once that new show introduces the dastardly Zimpoglians, three guesses what the next show will feature!
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Sep 2, 2015 07:56
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Didn't Ro grow up in a refugee camp? That might have been more in federation territory than cardasian or bajoran.
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Honestly if the refugee camp was in Federation control I wanna know why the Federation didn't replicate them a few decent beds. drat MIGRANT CRISIS
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The starfleet entrance exam is supposed to be really hard, right? Even boy genius Wesley Crusher had trouble with it despite all his advantages. So how did refugee camp Ro and rape gang planet Yar pass the exam?
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Angela Christine posted:The starfleet entrance exam is supposed to be really hard, right? Even boy genius Wesley Crusher had trouble with it despite all his advantages. So how did refugee camp Ro and rape gang planet Yar pass the exam? Affirmative action.
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Sep 2, 2015 08:10
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Starfleet academy is actually really easy so they could pump out as many redshirts as possible and Wesley was just dumb and everyone on the enterprise was just coddling him.
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Sep 2, 2015 08:15
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Even MIT has a gender studies program. Yar didn't spend a lot of time on theoretical warp field dynamics and Wesley Crusher didn't spent a lot of time on two-handed punches and narrow corridor fighting tactics.
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Sep 2, 2015 08:16
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That entrance exam never made a lot of sense, so maybe the writers just abandoned the concept entirely after that episode.
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Powered Descent posted:They already have every new show feature a crewman from a group that was introduced as a blood enemy in a previous one. Better yet, if it's set in an alternative universe from the movies then the Cardassian is the in board security officer with the task of not only doing what Worf did but also rooting out spies and terrorists. His Cardassian attitudes means he takes a relaxed approach to invading people's privacy, but eventually the crew teach him that human governments abandoned that concept centuries before. Eventually he comes to respect that you can be the security chief without reading people's diaries, and accepts that Cardassians could learn a thing or two from the Federation. (This is basically Wolf's story arc by the way)
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How about a series set in the Mirror Universe around the time of TNG with an evil Federation and the start of the rebellion movement. Where nearly all the humans are actually the bad guys. If it lasts long enough the Klingon-Cardassian alliance over throws the humans and then you realise they are even worse or just as bad. That's when they introduce the human resistance and at first you're like "gently caress Yeah! Human good guys!" but then it turns out they are literally terrorists and it leaves the audience conflicted.
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Sep 2, 2015 08:44
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On DS9 Kira was a terrorist and it never got awkward or conflicting. 
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Sep 2, 2015 08:54
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I still want a new Trek series to be pretty much just Sealab 2021 using stock footage from The Animated Series.
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Powered Descent posted:(Enterprise doesn't count.) They were gonna make Shran a member of the crew, which would have kicked rear end.
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Delsaber posted:I still want a new Trek series to be pretty much just Sealab 2021 using stock footage from The Animated Series.
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Gutcruncher posted:On DS9 Kira was a terrorist and it never got awkward or conflicting. That was pre-9/11 before Americans suddenly hated terrorists despite funding the IRA all through the 80s.
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Kitchner posted:How about a series set in the Mirror Universe around the time of TNG with an evil Federation and the start of the rebellion movement. Where nearly all the humans are actually the bad guys. Hell, I'd love to see a series set in that parallel universe from the episode Parallels where hobo-Riker is all "THE FEDERATION'S GONE, THE BORG ARE EVERYWHERE"  Also, found while looking up that episode. In some parallel quantum universe or other, it looks like they already beat us to the brilliant idea: 
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drat you Star Trek writers, you win again 
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Powered Descent posted:Also, found while looking up that episode. In some parallel quantum universe or other, it looks like they already beat us to the brilliant idea: There is no way, alternate universe or not, that that strapping young cardie isn't tied 19 ways to Enabran Tain. gently caress that probably is Enabran Tain himself.
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shadow puppet of a posted:You mean the Obsidian Order beat us to the Obsidian Order's idea. Don't forget that in the parallel universe the Bajorans are an evil empire that conquered the Cardassians.
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Sep 2, 2015 10:55
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MikeJF posted:Don't forget that in the parallel universe the Bajorans are an evil empire that conquered the Cardassians. The rabid Bajoran fanatics have been a threat to the peaceful good intentioned Cardassian race across every incarnation of universe. Its the one true constant.
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MikeJF posted:Don't forget that in the parallel universe the Bajorans are an evil empire that conquered the Cardassians. Actually the Bajorans had been conquered by the Terran Empire and they joined the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance after freeing them.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:Actually the Bajorans had been conquered by the Terran Empire and they joined the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance after freeing them. Wrong parallel universe brah
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MikeJF posted:Wrong parallel universe brah In his defence there are a lot of parallel universes.
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Powered Descent posted:They already have every new show feature a crewman from a group that was introduced as a blood enemy in a previous one. Seska was Cardassian and she at least had a starfleet field commission
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MikeJF posted:Wrong parallel universe brah Whoops, thought you were talking about the Mirror Universe for some reason, not the one where the Bajorans are even bigger dicks than they usually are. chaosbreather posted:Seska was Cardassian and she at least had a starfleet field commission Does it count if she was pretending to be Bajoran?
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TEAYCHES posted:gul dukat did nothing wrong
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reminder that the reboot has guaranteed that there will never be a thinky classic star trek ever again b/c Grim Dark Your Favorite Actors And Incoherent is a more reliable moneymaker
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MikeJF posted:That was Tom Paris/Nick Locarno in Voyager. ya lol thats such a gently caress You Move to that writer
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