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ShootaBoy
Jan 6, 2010

Anime is Bad.
Except for Pokemon, Valkyria Chronicles and 100% OJ.

Angry Diplomat posted:

I love this game a lot so far, but I do think that harder, more dangerous hand-to-hand fighting would improve it. Even if only occasionally, it would be neat if enemies would attack you two at a time and force you to evade or position yourself in such a way that you could parry one and block the other with his body.

Um, they do attack you two and even three at a time though :confused: During my 12 hour play session yesterday, I had multiple occasions where I was countering/beating on some scrub and a buddy would take the opportunity to break a bat over the back of my head.

ShootaBoy fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Sep 2, 2015

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wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

This game has some of the best car noises ever. Even the wimpy starting V6 you get sounds awesome. Too many driving games don't make cars sound angry and aggressive enough.

wafflemoose fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Sep 2, 2015

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Kibayasu posted:

Fallout 3/NV/4 and GTA5, and only the re-release, are the only games I can think of that allow a switch between third and first person (and switching to third person view in Fallout was pretty pointless unless you wanted to peek around corners, the animations are limited at best). I guess the Rainbow Six Vegas games count but its only third person when you're in cover. What other game has ever done that? Is this the next pointless "thing" that people are going to start demanding because one big game did it?

GTA 5 is the best example of it actually working and in Fallout the actual shooting is a mess and pretty much demands to be played in VATS mode. So yeah that guy demanding it is pretty loving stupid but it I guess it would be nice?

I mean Metal Gear has also had this option for years and its pretty good but I don't think every game needs it at all.

ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
My only issue with this game is being the aggressor so much. Like, the icon max image to me is him heading away from bandits at high speed, not straight at them.

There's a wonderful excitement to a good pursuit, and I'd like to see it more here.

drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
The game is cheaper then the Fury Road DVD. vOv

Anyway, I when you have the ammo to spare I love throwing and shooting a jerrycan into a group of enemies. This was 8 people, now only one (plus one up the stairs)


And some fisticuffs in a duststorm while chumbucket repairs the magnum opus

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!

khwarezm posted:

A good idea is to not read most threads in this forum for until at least about a week after a game's release since its practically impossible to tell if a game is actually good or if people are still in the justifying their 20 dollar preorder and five months of hype phase.

Just appreciate the irony of people complaining about reviewers not losing their mind about a game when in any other situation they'd probably be moaning about a big studio backed licensed game being let off the hook.

fixed that for you.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

Muttonchips posted:


-No aircraft. A game this big needed some kind of aircraft to help navigate the rough terrain. They tease you with a balloon, but it's just a fast travel gimmick. Exclusion of motorcycle is understandable, but I am baffled they left out airplanes and gyrocopters. Imagine dropping a load of bombs from a rusted old F16 combat airplane. It would be amazing.

Jet engines are lot more advanced and finicky than internal combustion engines. Also planes are made out of non-corrosive metals. A functional micro-light might be feasible if you've got enough lightweight fabric, but in the wasteland there aren't a lot of functioning textiles stores.

quote:

-Scarcity of ammo means even when you're fully stocked up you can't blast your way through a level. Not only is it unrealistic (I can probably carry 120+ shells in a bag easy), the game is taking away choices on how you play your game. I like guns. Let me use them to blow away cars and people with reckless abandon. Let me attach machine gun to my car and blow up everything in my path. The game won't let you do whatever you want to do, you have to play by its rules. I don't like that.

Yeah, walmart stocks lots of ammo. You should be able to hit up walmart. it's stupid, it's not like you need a functional economy to produce things.

quote:

-Lack of weapons In the wastelands, there should be all kinds of guns. Revolvers, rifles, hand guns, automatic pistols, glocks, 1911s, but instead all we are stuck with is a sniper rifle which we can only use inside the car, and a shotgun.

You should go look up Australia.

HardKase
Jul 15, 2007
TASTY

Josef bugman posted:

See this game just doesn't scream "FURY ROAD" enough at me. Because I would play the poo poo out of a Fury Road actual game, but this I am not so sold on.

Still seems interesting and may pick it up in a couple of months, but I'm not really seeing anything that won't make me save my money for the DVD of Fury Road.

Its based on overall mad Max mythos not just fury road. Fury road is different to the other movies in a number of ways.

HardKase fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Sep 2, 2015

midge
Mar 15, 2004

World's finest snatch.

HardKase posted:

Its based on overall mad Max mythos not just fury road. Fury road is different to the other movies in a number of ways.

Which, frankly, makes the game better than Fury Road.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

All of the movies are pretty different from one another, but I'd say Road Warrior, Beyond the Thunderdome, and Fury Road have more in common with each other than they do with the original movie, which barely looks "post-apocalyptic" by today's standards (though largely due to the very low budget production) and has almost none of the more fantastical elements and mythos

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

ColonelJohnMatrix posted:

In the Kotaku review the guy literally opens with this -

"A little more than 10 years ago, not long after I quit my job to become a freelance writer, a colleague warned me that sometimes the work could be grueling and unrewarding. “I want to talk to you when you’re writing a story only for money,” he said. It took a decade, but I finally found that assignment: reviewing Mad Max for Kotaku. I never would have finished this game if someone wasn’t paying me to do so. If this were Thunderdome, I would have let Mad Max win."

This was the first review I read of the game yesterday while at work, and suggested to me that it was utter garbage without actually saying the quote "utter garbage".

I do think it's pretty funny it released against Metal Gear though. Outside of maybe Fallout I can't think of a worse date.

Oh how terrible, but bother to read the rest of it and it has plenty of nice things to say:
'Not everything about Mad Max is awful. The wasteland is austerely pretty, and driving through it can be pleasant. The car combat is reasonably engaging, especially once you unlock the Thunderpoon, a shoulder-fired missile used by Chumbucket, your mechanic and near-constant companion. Moments in the plot surprised me. There are five campaign-based achievements/trophies in the game, and I kind of enjoyed working to get the last two.'

But ultimately he thinks the pacing is off, the game is repetitive and cribs a lot from the Ubisoft open world formula and other Warner Bros games, what are you going to do? Those complaints seem common, go have a look at IGN or Gamespot or Gameinformer but overall the game has been getting OK scores, its 73 on metacritic, you'd swear to god this game was getting ripped to shreds rather than a generally lukewarm to fairly positive reaction its actually getting, but Goons I suppose.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

khwarezm posted:

but Goons I suppose.

This is an inclusive set. Also using hyperbole to counter hyperbole rarely works, even though it's hilarious to watch.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

Hav posted:

This is an inclusive set. Also using hyperbole to counter hyperbole rarely works, even though it's hilarious to watch.

Fight fire with fire :shrug:

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!
Hyperbole is a fun language exercise, and I welcome it in this thread. All shitposting is welcome here in the wasteland. Two shitposters enter, one shitposter leave, and all that.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

World's finest snatch.

khwarezm posted:

But ultimately he thinks the pacing is off, the game is repetitive and cribs a lot from the Ubisoft open world formula and other Warner Bros games, what are you going to do?

Yep, it probably does. As someone that doesn't really find fantasy & historical settings that appealing, it's great to finally have it in a setting that I enjoy that isn't GTAV DRUGSCRIMEMONEYHOES. Fallout has always been my most loved game series since the very first one; having another similar themed sandbox (LOL) to play around in is a lot of fun. It being Mad Max, a franchise I've waited to have a game based on since I was a kid is just the icing (yes I know Outlander, yes I played the poo poo out of that hard as BALLS game as a young 'un). I'm glad they didn't let the ADHD fest that is Fury Road completely take over the pace of the game.

Someone mentioned Interstate 76 above, another short lived series that I loved. If this game had the depth of car combat in those titles and less time on foot it would probably be in my top 5 games.

midge fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Sep 2, 2015

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

Muttonchips posted:

The game is fun at a visceral level, but I can understand the low scores as it lacks polish. Solid 8 at most. Don't see this game winning any Game of the Year awards or anything like that unless they release some patches and work out the bugs.

It's still a fun game and all, but the game is littered with small tiny flaws which hinder the overall experience. I'll list out a few that I can think of.

-No first person view when you're walking around on foot. In this day and age, any game that only has third person view, gets an automatic deduction in points from me. Fallout series basically perfected the use of the 3rd person and 1st person camera- there is no excuse for leaving it out. Especially when there is gunplay and/or driving involved. Guns look better when you have iron sights that you can use to aim with. The first person view in a vehicle simply moves the camera to the proximity of the head. This means you can't look around with your head like you would be able to in GTA. Sloppy work. Doesn't count.


I dunno if you've read about how GTA V did it. Rockstar had to make thousands of animations and art for FPS to work decently. It's not like an over night thing.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

khwarezm posted:

Fight fire with fire :shrug:

Press X to throw a petrol can.

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

midge posted:

Yep, it probably does. As someone that doesn't really find fantasy & historical settings that appealing, it's great to finally have it in a setting that I enjoy that isn't GTAV DRUGSCRIMEMONEYHOES. Fallout has always been my most loved game series since the very first one; having another similar themed sandbox (LOL) to play around in is a lot of fun. It being Mad Max, a franchise I've waited to have a game based on since I was a kid is just the icing (yes I know Outlander, yes I played the poo poo out of that hard as BALLS game as a young 'un). I'm glad they didn't like the ADHD fest that is Fury Road completely take over the pace of the game.

Someone mentioned Interstate 76 above, another short lived series that I loved. If this game had the depth of car combat in those titles and less time on foot it would probably be in my top 5 games.

Its not that rare, games like Borderlands and Rage are very Mad Max inspired.

midge
Mar 15, 2004

World's finest snatch.

khwarezm posted:

Its not that rare, games like Borderlands and Rage are very Mad Max inspired.

I just wrote those off as FPS though. They aren't? The car is a really big deal for me, like the early Max movies. The car is a character in itself.

Do we think this game will get picked up by the modding community, does it have any support?

midge fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Sep 2, 2015

khwarezm
Oct 26, 2010

Deal with it.

midge posted:

I just wrote those off as FPS though. They aren't? The car is a really big deal for me, like the early Max movies. The car is a character in itself.

Do we think this game will get picked up by the modding community, does it have any support?

Both games have car combat in them but TBF it doesn't work out very well and the overall focus is on the FPS parts.

Borderlands 2 even has 'ransack the courier' missions.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
This game is a drat hoot.

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:
This game owns, people who don't have it yet will get it and go "wow this game owns" and the dude who wants a rusted F-16 to fly bought the wrong game.
If you don't like Mad Max or sand or cars you probably won't like this game.

I bet in a month's time we'll have more people talking about how Metal Gear was overhyped and not as good as everyone said rather than people saying that about this game. I don't know if there is anyone in the Metal Gear thread mocking goons for hyperbole like this one though.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
My biggest gripes:

-let me climb up something even if it isn't painted "climb yellow."

-balloons are slow and boring boo let me skip the ascent and descent animation

-hey game, when I steal the flagship vehicle of a convoy and I drive it to my base after killing all its escorts during a brutal storm, maybe don't give me a message that says "can't collect that" and then respawn the entire convoy intact miles from my base with no credit given for taking over the convoy.

-harpoon OP

Still having a blast though aways be side swiping vehicles and setting poo poo on fire.

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
Mgs v is goddamn incredible. Mad Max is great.

We got two awesome games this week.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

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Leather Bear posted:

Mgs v is goddamn incredible. Mad Max is great.

We got two awesome games this week.

And last week Until Dawn owned and next week is motherfucking Mario Maker.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Why is Fury Road level saturation not an option while playing and only in the camera mode? :(

Which filter is that? I don't have a "Fury Road" filter.

ElBrak
Aug 24, 2004

"Muerte, buen compinche. Muerte."
They need to change it so when you bring the dog to a mind field it just reveals all the mines at once. poo poo is boring having to drive around the field waiting for the dog to bark at every single mine. Thank god there is only three per field though.

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe
I got in car brawl during a lightning storm and and lightning bulls-eyed the enemy driver frying him.

Later I was bashing a warboy in the face with a club and he excitedly screamed, "This is the best way to go!" right before he died.

Chumbucket notices and comments on everything which is really cool, I was cruising along and happened to glance over at the moon, and he started talking about how he didn't like the looks of it. It's also impressive how little he repeats himself, even when talking about the same thing he has all kinds of variations of stuff to say.

Games cool.

DLC Inc
Jun 1, 2011

KakerMix posted:

I bet in a month's time we'll have more people talking about how Metal Gear was overhyped and not as good as everyone said rather than people saying that about this game. I don't know if there is anyone in the Metal Gear thread mocking goons for hyperbole like this one though.

man that's a pretty bad bet

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007

ty slumfrog :)
Anyone else notice that when anything happens that "pauses" the action (like a prompt pops up saying "Press E to continue") that afterwards you can see your cursor on the screen? It's a little annoying but it's the only gripe I have so far!

Deakul
Apr 2, 2012

PAM PA RAM

PAM PAM PARAAAAM!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfcfwheL5_g

Gamespot reviewer explains his scoring, sounds like very reasonable complaints to me.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

khwarezm posted:

Oh how terrible, but bother to read the rest of it and it has plenty of nice things to say:
'Not everything about Mad Max is awful. The wasteland is austerely pretty, and driving through it can be pleasant. The car combat is reasonably engaging, especially once you unlock the Thunderpoon, a shoulder-fired missile used by Chumbucket, your mechanic and near-constant companion. Moments in the plot surprised me. There are five campaign-based achievements/trophies in the game, and I kind of enjoyed working to get the last two.'

But ultimately he thinks the pacing is off, the game is repetitive and cribs a lot from the Ubisoft open world formula and other Warner Bros games, what are you going to do? Those complaints seem common, go have a look at IGN or Gamespot or Gameinformer but overall the game has been getting OK scores, its 73 on metacritic, you'd swear to god this game was getting ripped to shreds rather than a generally lukewarm to fairly positive reaction its actually getting, but Goons I suppose.

Kotaku gave it a 5/10 which is an F for AAA games. The reviewers handling of this title just shows the desire for certain sites to hire contrarian hipster douchebags who actively dislike the medium they cover.

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 25 days!

Tehan posted:

Chumbucket just had a crisis of faith because games with American cars have conditioned me to enter cars on the left. "Surely one sent by the Angel cannot forget where the steering wheel is located!" :psyduck:

Haha I got that bit last night, awesome touch

Songbearer posted:

When you get enough ammunition to make Gut Shot a viable move in combat, it's the single most glorious thing ever.

Bad guy you can't be bothered with? BOOM

I went somewhere last night. It was full of interesting characters.




This guy didn't like me and tried to corpse me up, but I simply could not abide that.




Me turning the tables upset the locals.


I just wanted some lighties, nobody had to get hurt :(



Lighties! :buddy:

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Oh, ok, cool. Most of the screenshots and videos shown so far aren't using that then. I guess because the players have :mediocre: taste. :colbert:

We all just need to wait until the SweetFX Bros really start diving into this game.

girth brooks part 2
Sep 6, 2011

Bush did 911
Fun Shoe

Deakul posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfcfwheL5_g

Gamespot reviewer explains his scoring, sounds like very reasonable complaints to me.

I just kind of clicked through the video, but I have disagree with two of the points he brought up. He didn't like the fact that you can carry infinite (or at least a very large) amounts of scrap and that there's a fast a travel. Basically he wanted the game sacrifice game play for verisimilitude, which is just a terrible idea. I've played Cataclysm:DDA long enough to know that kind of stuff adds only tedium and zero fun. He may think that it sounds like a good idea, but in practice it rarely works and the game would have been worse off for it.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

khwarezm posted:

Oh how terrible, but bother to read the rest of it and it has plenty of nice things to say:
'Not everything about Mad Max is awful. The wasteland is austerely pretty, and driving through it can be pleasant. The car combat is reasonably engaging, especially once you unlock the Thunderpoon, a shoulder-fired missile used by Chumbucket, your mechanic and near-constant companion. Moments in the plot surprised me. There are five campaign-based achievements/trophies in the game, and I kind of enjoyed working to get the last two.'

But ultimately he thinks the pacing is off, the game is repetitive and cribs a lot from the Ubisoft open world formula and other Warner Bros games, what are you going to do? Those complaints seem common, go have a look at IGN or Gamespot or Gameinformer but overall the game has been getting OK scores, its 73 on metacritic, you'd swear to god this game was getting ripped to shreds rather than a generally lukewarm to fairly positive reaction its actually getting, but Goons I suppose.

This is an incredibly stupid criticism to leverage against these sorts of games at this point. This is a new genre of game. Continuing to make these criticisms is like saying Halo is poo poo because it cribs too much from Doom since both are FPS games.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Noam Chomsky posted:

This is an incredibly stupid criticism to leverage against these sorts of games at this point. This is a new genre of game. Continuing to make these criticisms is like saying Halo is poo poo because it cribs too much from Doom since both are FPS games.

Its not a new loving genre what the gently caress are you on about

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


BexGu posted:

We all just need to wait until the SweetFX Bros really start diving into this game.

This might be the first game where I consider using that stuff.

Huzanko
Aug 4, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

The REAL Goobusters posted:

Its not a new loving genre what the gently caress are you on about

So when do common gameplay mechanics and tropes create a genre for the games that they're common to?

If you make games that are similar to eachother for long enough they tend to form a genre - i.e. platformers, rouge-likes, etc.

All the assassin's creed games, the two later Arkham games along with Origins, Shadow of Mordor, Max Max - they all feature common gameplay mechanics; I'd say that's the start of a new genre of games.

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TotalHell
Feb 22, 2005

Roman Reigns fights CM Punk in fantasy warld. Lotsa violins, so littl kids cant red it.


girth brooks part 2 posted:

I just kind of clicked through the video, but I have disagree with two of the points he brought up. He didn't like the fact that you can carry infinite (or at least a very large) amounts of scrap and that there's a fast a travel. Basically he wanted the game sacrifice game play for verisimilitude, which is just a terrible idea. I've played Cataclysm:DDA long enough to know that kind of stuff adds only tedium and zero fun. He may think that it sounds like a good idea, but in practice it rarely works and the game would have been worse off for it.

Yeah, there are certain points here I could totally understand, but man some of these criticisms seem really really strange.

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