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Lets Pickle posted:Didn't one of those articles have some You make the Card thing where somebody made a 2/2 for R with some drawback and the person was like "my god that's too good, we would never print that."
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think it was a 2/1 goblin with "can't block", yeah. I thought that was an article explaining why they thought Rakdos Cackler is now a card they can get away with printing. I'm going to call it that every time I announce casting it in Legacy from now on.
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Attorney at Funk posted:They're called "Skeletons in R&D's Closet" It is funny, when people talk about how conservative R&D are currently this should be the response. They are that way for a good reason, they're honestly kind of poo poo at evaluating things, so they err on the side of caution.
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Like all magic players, Wizards R&D has no concept of card evaluation.
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jassi007 posted:It is funny, when people talk about how conservative R&D are currently this should be the response. They are that way for a good reason, they're honestly kind of poo poo at evaluating things, so they err on the side of caution. I would rather see 2 dozen of these mistakes before one Archangel's Light E: they're mistakes but all of them are cool, interesting cards and a lot of them challenged someone to think creatively as to how to use them to the fullest possible extent. TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Sep 3, 2015 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think it was a 2/1 goblin with "can't block", yeah. Specifically, like, right when Shadowmoor was being made, in which Tattermunge Maniac was printed as a 1-CMC 2/1 goblin with "can't block".
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Lets Pickle posted:Not really though because against a deck with a lot of Delve spells processing exiled cards is the equivalent of giving them mana. I'd buy that based on the way the only Processor we've seen works (although you're guaranteed to also get mana on cast), but it really depends how many cards like Oblivion Sower there are. jassi007 posted:It is funny, when people talk about how conservative R&D are currently this should be the response. They are that way for a good reason, they're honestly kind of poo poo at evaluating things, so they err on the side of caution. They're putting out 4 sets a year and the testing period occurs while the cards change based on their feedback. I can see exactly why they gently caress it up sometimes.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Specifically, like, right when Shadowmoor was being made, in which Tattermunge Maniac was printed as a 1-CMC 2/1 goblin with "can't block".
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Lets Pickle posted:I guess if you enjoy a challenge play the Zendikar deck, it's a goddamn uphill battle. The decks have a lot of good back-and-forth gameplay, but the Eldrazi deck is definitely more powerful to the point that it seems intentional. Maybe that's to make it more flavorful, or to imply that Zendikar is totally hosed, storywise? Yeah, I played a few more matches and you're 100% right. Here is a visual aid. Left to right: Zendikar quasi-removal, straight up removal, Eldrazi straight up removal, quasi-removal.  Fig 1.1 Relative removal in Zendikar vs Eldrazi duel decks (Vampire Nighthawk included for scale) Notice how Artisan of Kozilek and Cadaver Imp (not pictured) effectively cancel out the Sheer Drops 
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A guy at my LGS showed me a "proxy" he got of a dual land, and I've seen some lovely proxies people have used in cubes that didn't look close at all, but this looked and felt just like a real card in anything but the brightest light with another revised land next to it for comparison. I would be loving scared to ever even consider buying a dual at this point.
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Angry Grimace posted:I would be loving scared to ever even consider buying a dual at this point. Good burn the reserved list down
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Sep 3, 2015 04:03
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purchase counterfeits, the sooner wotc dies the better
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I'm going to a legacy tournament with my white lotus it's like black lotus but it comes into play tapped so
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black potus posted:purchase counterfeits, the sooner wotc dies the better  then we can all play good euro games.
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black potus posted:purchase counterfeits, the sooner wotc dies the better I can't give them money for Tropical Islands anyway so, uh.
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You're right, they're all good, so it's extraneous.
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm skeptical this is real because why would this spoiler guy just randomly release stuff really slowly like this - e.g. he could have spoiled the entire Scion mechanic early if he had. Lots of early spoilers every season go like this: A random person no one's ever heard of shows up on the MTGSalvation forums, and posts something like, "I saw X card, here's what I remember." For instance, here's what someone posted about Gideon: quote:Gideon is as follows There will always be details they can't quite remember. Later on they might come back and edit their post and correct or add details. Obviously people will cry fake, at least I assume that's still what happens, I don't read the MTGSalvation forums anymore because I enjoy my hobby. Then, days later, the official card will be spoiled. So that guy will keep posting random details of cards. So someone every spoiler season, possibly the same person, is somehow seeing cards from the upcoming set but isn't in a position to actually get a picture of them or write down precise details as they see them. The same person(s) like to slow roll their spoilers, possibly for Internet Points (tm) or because they're constantly getting more chances to peek at the cards. They don't spoil large amounts of the set for... reasons. They don't have access to it, or they're afraid of WotC's legal wrath if they do that. I think it might be someone who works with promotional material at a printed WotC hires or something.
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Wizards has gone after unofficial leaks pretty hard in the past right? I remember a mtgsalvation dude getting in some serious trouble with them a while back.
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The cards are printed in America. Its not unfathomable that security at a print shop would be a bit loose and that there are 100's of people there with the potential of seeing a few cards.
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If that card's real, I'm going to abuse the combo so badly that the Catholic Church will relocate me to a different parish.
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Booyah- posted:Wizards has gone after unofficial leaks pretty hard in the past right? I remember a mtgsalvation dude getting in some serious trouble with them a while back. A store in my area spoiled the hidden treasures from original Zendikar on Salvation. They posted their store's name with the spoiler, after opening all of their Prerelease prize support. They didn't get to have a Worldwake Prerelease as punishment.
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Booyah- posted:Wizards has gone after unofficial leaks pretty hard in the past right? I remember a mtgsalvation dude getting in some serious trouble with them a while back. I think you're talking aboout Rancored Elf, who (kind of) spoiled the timeshifted sheet in Time Spiral by posting some in-design cards, one of which was Daru Sanctifier. It was such a big clusterfuck that MaRo himself did a column on it. That was also nine years ago, and of cards in the stickers-on-old-cards stage of development. People spoiling cards that're already printed and about to be purchasable don't get anywhere near the same amount of heat, if any.
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As i recall the entire spoiler for New Phyrexia was spoiled in one shot a few weeks early (somebody got the book that comes in the fatpack) and there was a lot of fallout from it, someone got sued or something. I don't think WotC cares about some guy on the internet semi-leaking a few mythics a little early, but having the whole set spoiled is NOT okay by them and usually leads to legal action. here we go, from Wikipedia: "The set was spoiled in its entirety on April 19, 2011, before the spoiler season on magicthegathering.com began. This was the result of the "Godbook", which contains all cards of an upcoming set, being leaked. Godbooks are sent to magazines for review purposes before the release of sets. In this case, the godbook was sent to Lotus Noir, which passed it on to pro player Guillame Matignon for reviews. Matignon was the World Champion at the time. Matignon in turn shared it with Guillame Wafo-Tapa and two other players in his group, one of which leaked it on the internet. [16] Consequently, all four players involved were suspended by the DCI for a year and a half."
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A fun hobby: taking advantage of new tcgplayer sellers who have to price 2.99 shipping
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Lets Pickle posted:As i recall the entire spoiler for New Phyrexia was spoiled in one shot a few weeks early (somebody got the book that comes in the fatpack) and there was a lot of fallout from it, someone got sued or something. I don't think WotC cares about some guy on the internet semi-leaking a few mythics a little early, but having the whole set spoiled is NOT okay by them and usually leads to legal action. Yep, that whole incident was discussed in a million articles last year when pros were debating whether or not to vote Wafo-Tapa into the Hall of Fame. Basically there was a big discussion about why certain suspensions aren't as bad as others (as in: why certain pros were willing to vote in Wafo-Tapa but never vote for Saito).
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Mr. Jive posted:Yeah, I played a few more matches and you're 100% right. Here is a visual aid. Left to right: Zendikar quasi-removal, straight up removal, Eldrazi straight up removal, quasi-removal. There also Oust  They really should have put one Path to Exile in The Zendikar deck, it synergizes with Landfall and gives the G/W deck something to actually answer an Eldrazi.
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Lets Pickle posted:There also Oust Journey to Nowhere is the Zendikar white removal if you care about flavor.
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My LGS owner thinks that the prices for the full art foil lands will end up like this: Blue Fetches: 200-225 NonBlue Fetches: 150-175 Blue Shocks: 125 NonBlue Shocks: 75-100 New Typed Taplands: 60
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deftest posted:https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN-45nmWsAAI_fZ.png:large loving that godless shrine.
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mcmagic posted:My LGS owner thinks that the prices for the full art foil lands will end up like this: Think he's wrong about fetches and shocks.
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mfcrocker posted:Think he's wrong about fetches and shocks. in which direction?
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This is what love feels like. They keep using "Expedition" in connection with the lands, what's that about? Just the term for the random insert?
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I'm really digging the hand on the left that looks like it's holding the hedron.
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Seems like it's meant to be this guy. Is this one of the original titans?
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BizarroAzrael posted:This is what love feels like. Yes, it's the name of the set of cards in this block (not just this expansion). They don't count as part of the regular set. The random inserts in Zendikar were called "Hidden Treasures."
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I think he's wrong about the taplands because I don't think they have any place in Modern or Legacy so super mega rare foils aren't going to actually have that much value. I'm not a magic finance wizard, but it just seems that rares and mythics don't really have high foil prices unless they see play in one of the non-rotating formats. I think they'll be in the $30 to $40 dollar range, due to the fact that they are still very rare and they will definitely see standard play.
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deftest posted:Seems like it's meant to be this guy. Is this one of the original titans? That's Artisan of Kozilek, the 9-drop uncommon. The three Eldrazi lineages are supposed to have their own distinct looks, and that Godless Shrine is definitelly pretty Kozileky.
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