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homeowner 39 22.41%
renter 69 39.66%
stupid peace of poo poo 66 37.93%
Total: 174 votes
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Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Ratios and Tendency posted:

That's only because we haven't tried benevolent machine dictatorship yet.
That's somewhat tautological given that caveat is in the quote and everything.

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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
Government won't support bills introduced by Labour & the Greens to increase the refugee quota.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Exclamation Marx posted:

Government won't support bills introduced by Labour & the Greens to increase the refugee quota.

Also:

Ratios and Tendency posted:

That's only because we haven't tried benevolent machine dictatorship yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPuU8Pq9D3Q

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


Ghostlight posted:

That's somewhat tautological given that caveat is in the quote and everything.

I realise that but the spirit of the quote is that democracy is the best of a bad bunch and also I was joking. Or was I?!?

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Sep 4, 2015

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me




Trigger warning that poo poo Jesus Christ

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
gently caress this gay sports loving country

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Seriously just saw the following in a Facebook post "why should we take syrian refugees, I bet the syrian government wouldn't take our ones".

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Infotainment! posted:

Seriously just saw the following in a Facebook post "why should we take syrian refugees, I bet the syrian government wouldn't take our ones".

john keys is better than bashar al-assad, guess i can't argue with that.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

actually, the lion assad is superior to any imperalist western leader

Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Infotainment! posted:

Seriously just saw the following in a Facebook post "why should we take syrian refugees, I bet the syrian government wouldn't take our ones".

I keep thinking of the scene in the west wing where I think Josh was arguing with someone about something similar and he just yells in an exasperated way "We are supposed to be the good guys"

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Caring about things like moral fortitude and ethical standards and the common cause of man is for pussies. I bet they don't even play rugby, drink beer and gently caress sheilas. And then hit them.

whiter than a Wilco show
Mar 30, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Varkk posted:

I keep thinking of the scene in the west wing where I think Josh was arguing with someone about something similar and he just yells in an exasperated way "We are supposed to be the good guys"

Infinity times this

ledge
Jun 10, 2003

WarpedNaba posted:

Caring about things like moral fortitude and ethical standards and the common cause of man is for pussies. I bet they don't even play rugby, drink beer and gently caress sheilas. And then hit them.

And then throw them down the stairs.

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
red peak is good btw

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
No wedding ring

4/10

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
Looks bad Todd

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

Exclamation Marx posted:

red peak is good btw



I really don't understand the attention this is getting. There is nothing about this flag that says "New Zealand" in any way, shape, or form. It could be the flag of *any* country.

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe

NZAmoeba posted:

I really don't understand the attention this is getting. There is nothing about this flag that says "New Zealand" in any way, shape, or form. It could be the flag of *any* country.
As opposed to the tricoloure, or the Scottish saltire, or 95% of flags in the world? Slapping "New Zealand" symbols onto a flag is how we got the mess of the shortlist we did.

Laverna
Mar 21, 2013


People have been sharing that "Red Peak" flag a lot on my facebook and while I appreciate that they put a lot more thought into the design than any of the finalists did, it is a really, really ugly flag.
Like honestly guys.

If it was just red white and black it might work. Still feels pretty stiff and meaningless though.

Lancelot posted:

As opposed to the tricoloure, or the Scottish saltire, or 95% of flags in the world? Slapping "New Zealand" symbols onto a flag is how we got the mess of the shortlist we did.

It doesn't need a fern but for example the koru is a symbol that brings New Zealand to mind while still being pretty simple.

Laverna fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Sep 4, 2015

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

NZAmoeba posted:

I really don't understand the attention this is getting. There is nothing about this flag that says "New Zealand" in any way, shape, or form. It could be the flag of *any* country.

Aside from being bold & distinctive, it actually does have meaning behind it (unlike those execrable descriptions i posted upthread):


http://aotearoaflag.tumblr.com/

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

I still think my submission was the right one. Nothing says New Zealand like the outline of New Zealand.

also someone MSPaint the illuminati eye into "star tip" in that picture^ pls

Kathleen
Feb 26, 2013

Grimey Drawer
i have to say, i'm warming a lot to the red peak flag. i think it's the shock of just how bad those four finalists are.

Laverna
Mar 21, 2013


Exclamation Marx posted:

Aside from being bold & distinctive, it actually does have meaning behind it (unlike those execrable descriptions i posted upthread):


http://aotearoaflag.tumblr.com/

Exactly. Still ugly though.

Honestly, it would be much nicer without the blue. Still bad, but at least not so many different colours.
Why are people clinging on to the blue in almost every flag option?

edit: I'm guessing it's because red and black are maori colours and people value their colonialism? I was reading an article which suggested using the tino rangatiratanga (did I spell that right?) as the national flag, and lots of the comments were along the lines of "NOT ARE CULTURE"

Laverna fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Sep 4, 2015

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Not really sold on red peak but this shows why the Kyle Lockwood ones are god awful




e: serious talk I'd be a lot more ok with it if they picked blue or black, not both. This has probably been said before:

voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Sep 5, 2015

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



I'd vote for the black one. I am so sick of colonialist blue.

Moongrave
Jun 19, 2004

Finally Living Rent Free
Looks like a transport company logo

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Red Peak blows. There's too much white. Like it's a huge, in-your-face amount of white that renders the meaning of the red peak kind of irrelevant.

As a piece of social commentary it's OK I guess but it's not as great as a flag as some people make it out to be.

Now the Swanny on the other hand...

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Another comparison that kinda shows how terrible the kyle lockwood ones will be (and that red peak, regardless of whether you like it or not, actually looks like a flag):

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

Butt Wizard posted:

Red Peak blows. There's too much white. Like it's a huge, in-your-face amount of white that renders the meaning of the red peak kind of irrelevant.

As a piece of social commentary it's OK I guess but it's not as great as a flag as some people make it out to be.

Now the Swanny on the other hand...

Someone show me a version where the white line is a thin outline like on the Norwegian or South African flag, then I might be able to reconsider.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

It's one of the things that bothers me about it - the red triangle is too drat small. It also only feels like an acceptable flag in comparison to the 4 alternatives offered.

voiceless anal fricative
May 6, 2007

Vagabundo posted:

It's one of the things that bothers me about it - the red triangle is too drat small. It also only feels like an acceptable flag in comparison to the 4 alternatives offered.

Yeah it's mostly that I think. Opposition to the god awful four has crystallised behind red peak.

spanky the dolphin
Sep 3, 2006

Vagabundo posted:

It's one of the things that bothers me about it - the red triangle is too drat small. It also only feels like an acceptable flag in comparison to the 4 alternatives offered.



Here it is with equal triangles.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
Well now it looks like an Assassin's Creed flag.

NZAmoeba
Feb 14, 2005

It turns out it's MAN!
Hair Elf

spanky the dolphin posted:



Here it is with equal triangles.

Still needs to be thinner, basically like Norway's

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
In Norway's flag the white is a stroke, to differentiate the blue & red. For red peak it's its own graphic element, representing mountains while the red represents the earth.

SurreptitiousMuffin
Mar 21, 2010
Red Peak is far from perfect, but at least it doesn't look like a box of Weet-Bix.

Ratios and Tendency
Apr 23, 2010

:swoon: MURALI :swoon:


On the other hand a cheap logo piece of poo poo flag does represent current NZ pretty well.

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Varkk
Apr 17, 2004

Five bad flags.

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