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Is there a way to get Quiet back as a Buddy after finishing Quiet Exit mission? She was my favorite buddy and I never even got to develop Sniper Wolf outfit for her.
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Sep 5, 2015 21:35
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Man, the bosses in this game besides the Metal Gear one are just garbage. Not that there are there many to begin with, it's just the Skulls 4 times, Volgin and then Metal Gear, and from those you can skip 3 of the 4 Skulls encounters.
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Sep 5, 2015 21:37
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Jack Trades posted:Is there a way to get Quiet back as a Buddy after finishing Quiet Exit mission? Nope! Was kind of upset that there is no indication that she'd be gone for good, considering how every other part of the game is so replayable. Having Quiet come back as a buddy makes just as much sense as being able to replay story missions, imo. On a completely unrelated note, the Wormhole Fulton is insanely good for FOB stuff. It makes it basically impossible for the guards to see you Fultoning all their friends away, and you can use in without any open sky coverage, which is a godsend on the R+D platform.
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Sep 5, 2015 21:44
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I like that boss fights are escapable, it makes sense for an open world game. To be honest I also like how I have no ready counter to the Skulls and bosses that never lose you once they've spotted you at least makes sense as a gimmick. I'm sure there's better ways to handle them but outside of homing weapons I have no idea how. Man on Fire was a pretty good fight, if a little too easy. Sahelanthropus is OK. Nothing super memorable but I wouldn't say totally awful either.
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Sep 5, 2015 21:55
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Is it possible to go back and take out Sahelanthropus during Hellbound?
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Sep 5, 2015 22:29
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I genuinely didn't realise you were supposed to fight the Man on Fire. I just called in a chopper and escaped, took about 30 seconds.
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Sep 5, 2015 22:46
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I just led him over to the reservoir, looped around him, and shotgunned him into it. One hit kill. It wasn't really a "boss" so much as a kind of puzzle, but it was still pretty tense, and Mission 20 in general had a really great atmosphere. The lab, yet again, made me wish for a Silent Hills that will never be.
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Sep 5, 2015 22:48
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decided to start loving with people in the main thread who are slowing releazing the twist. "no i dont see anything in the reflection, maybe turn your graphics down?"
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Sep 5, 2015 23:05
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So I'm just curious about one thing, having not started the game yet/avoiding this thread. I was checking the wiki for the story of MG1, and MG2, because I've always wanted to play them, but could never really work up the ability to play something so aged without the nostalgia. Finally tried today, failed, which led to me scrolling down to see what they are referenced in, and I see. "Referenced in MGSV" to both games. That's a bit odd, since MGSV happens what, 11 years earlier? It also spoiled how Big Boss came back in MG2, but whatever, that's not the craziest spoiler in the game I imagine. This is my question. Does MGSV end in such a way that it goes over the events of MG1 and MG2 in a more playable/modern way then the old MSX games. Could I theoretically use the end of MGSV as a means of understanding the events of MG1 and MG2 before jumping back into MGS1. Or..how exactly does it reference the events of MG1/MG2 otherwise?
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Sep 5, 2015 23:24
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Rookersh posted:This is my question. Does MGSV end in such a way that it goes over the events of MG1 and MG2 in a more playable/modern way then the old MSX games. Could I theoretically use the end of MGSV as a means of understanding the events of MG1 and MG2 before jumping back into MGS1. Or..how exactly does it reference the events of MG1/MG2 otherwise? It doesn't. There's very little information (from the sound of what you've already had spoiled, nothing new) that the game tells you about MG1 and MG2.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:29
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So how'd Big Boss grow a beard in like 3 hours in the last ending? The whole Paz illusion and other brain damage stuff makes me doubt it being the real truth.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:32
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Rookersh posted:This is my question. Does MGSV end in such a way that it goes over the events of MG1 and MG2 in a more playable/modern way then the old MSX games. Could I theoretically use the end of MGSV as a means of understanding the events of MG1 and MG2 before jumping back into MGS1. Or..how exactly does it reference the events of MG1/MG2 otherwise? It ends with Venom Boss getting a tape from Big Boss about Operation Intrude N313, which is MG1.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:36
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Discendo Vox posted:It doesn't. There's very little information (from the sound of what you've already had spoiled, nothing new) that the game tells you about MG1 and MG2. According to the guidebook (MGSV ending spoilers in that link) (which bills itself as being heavily made in conjunction with the MGSV development team so it'd be shameful if they were making the following up) at this point the MSX versions of MG1 and MG2 are as canon as Portable Ops. That is, the main events during the game happen, but much of what happens during the game can be considered non-applicable filler at this point. Meaning yes, the poisonous Zanzibar hamsters are in danger of never having existed in the world of Metal Gear Solid. That link about what the guide says also mentions something really...dumb about Operation Intrude, mainly that (again spoilers) not only is it not Big Boss you fight at the end, according the official sources the strategy guide heard from, it wasn't even Big Boss who helped you over the radio throughout the game at any point. It was an AI all along.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:37
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They have some amazing plastic surgeons in Cyprus i guess. They can even make a black guy white!
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Sep 5, 2015 23:39
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Perhaps Kojima was considering remaking MG1 and 2.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:41
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Viewtiful Jew posted:According to the guidebook (MGSV ending spoilers in that link) (which bills itself as being heavily made in conjunction with the MGSV development team so it'd be shameful if they were making the following up) at this point the MSX versions of MG1 and MG2 are as canon as Portable Ops. That is, the main events during the game happen, but much of what happens during the game can be considered non-applicable filler at this point. Meaning yes, the poisonous Zanzibar hamsters are in danger of never having existed in the world of Metal Gear Solid. I'm not sure where that very last bit is coming from, but the rest is correct. As far as I can tell, Venom is the one that Solid kills in MG1, and the real Big Boss is the one who was helping him over the radio. Venom didn't expect Solid to actually complete the mission and was feeding him fake intel. It is unclear whether the real Big Boss also expected / wanted Solid to fail, or if he wanted Venom gone - the fact that Venom kind of goes nuts and creates a nuclear - armed stronghold seems to imply the latter. edit: But yeah, MG1 and 2 are only canon in the broadest possible sense at this point.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:43
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The credits should've had footage from MG1 like MGS4 did during Ocelot's big speech at the end.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:48
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Really disappointed that they never really talk about psycho mantis at all. I was really interested in learning more about him.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:50
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:edit: But yeah, MG1 and 2 are only canon in the broadest possible sense at this point. I mean at least admitting to that makes it easier to swallow Madnar still being alive by MGS4 after you supposedly shot a bunch of remote controlled explosive missiles into his body in MG2 just to get him off your back if now that event never actually happened. But man now this means a lot of stuff potentially never happened. The hooting owl puzzle alone.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:53
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So are there any clear info on who is Venom and who is Big Boss in other MGS games post TPP? Particularly MG1 and 2.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:53
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Jack Trades posted:So are there any clear info on who is Venom and who is Big Boss in other MGS games post TPP? Particularly MG1 and 2. Venom is the Big Boss of MG1, Naked is the Big Boss of everything else.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:54
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Jack Trades posted:So are there any clear info on who is Venom and who is Big Boss in other MGS games post TPP? Particularly MG1 and 2. Yeah Venom is killed in MG1.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:55
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randombattle posted:Yeah Venom is killed in MG1. Excuse me I think you're forgetting a game called Snake's Revenge.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:57
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Viewtiful Jew posted:According to the guidebook (MGSV ending spoilers in that link) (which bills itself as being heavily made in conjunction with the MGSV development team so it'd be shameful if they were making the following up) at this point the MSX versions of MG1 and MG2 are as canon as Portable Ops. That is, the main events during the game happen, but much of what happens during the game can be considered non-applicable filler at this point. Meaning yes, the poisonous Zanzibar hamsters are in danger of never having existed in the world of Metal Gear Solid. Grizzled Patriarch posted:I'm not sure where that very last bit is coming from, but the rest is correct. I know- the person I was responding to appears to have already had that fact spoiled for himself.
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Sep 5, 2015 23:59
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Discendo Vox posted:I know- the person I was responding to appears to have already had that fact spoiled for himself. Yeah, I meant the AI part. There is nothing I can think of that implies the Big Boss you are talking to on the radio in MG1 is an AI, and it makes more sense that it is the real BB since he is the one who actually organizes the mission in the first place.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:05
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Is there a reason to ever use a soldier who isn't Snake in deployment?
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Sep 6, 2015 00:06
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SweetBro posted:Is there a reason to ever use a soldier who isn't Snake in deployment? You can get a medal if you do missions with a non-Snake guy, which significantly raises stats.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:08
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Vikar Jerome posted:decided to start loving with people in the main thread who are slowing releazing the twist. I'd still like a screenshot of this. I swear it isn't working for me on PS4.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:11
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Some of them have cool abilities, like being able to run faster (which is nice for those missions when you want to roll with DD / Quiet but don't want to get in a highly visible vehicle) and having a longer-lasting reflex mode (dropping an entire base with the Riot SMG in slow motion is pretty fun). Pretty sure they also get to play around with more secondary weapons, since you don't have the bionic hand.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:11
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Some of them have cool abilities, like being able to run faster (which is nice for those missions when you want to roll with DD / Quiet but don't want to get in a highly visible vehicle) and having a longer-lasting reflex mode (dropping an entire base with the Riot SMG in slow motion is pretty fun). Pretty sure they also get to play around with more secondary weapons, since you don't have the bionic hand. All of the soldier abilities are researched for Snake eventually through bionic arm upgrades so he's really the best soldier. You can rush through easy missions as random mooks to get their stats up though edit: i think they don't get more secondaries either, they just have a blocked off bionic slot.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:18
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i wonder how many people have gotten hosed over by the butterfly emblem thing so far
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Sep 6, 2015 00:22
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I guess all this weird Big Boss stuff at least gives the vague impression of a reasoning for the last remaining "cartoon villain" of the series, but it sure was a bit sloppy of a way to do it, and raises more questions than answers about Naked Snake. I'm going to blame the rest of whatever happens after this game on the AI though. That just leaves Coldman and Huey as the last psychopaths who I don't have a clear understanding of why they do loving evil poo poo constantly. The reasons for them both seem to boil down to "I think I am correct and gently caress you" which is possibly the scariest possible rationale for destroying everything. Everyone else who becomes a villain seems to be various revenge ripples of events from back then and/or pawns of AI fuckery.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:22
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Huey didn't seem like a psychopath so much as an incredible coward who's constantly lying to cover his rear end. although i guess he murders his wife so theres that
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Sep 6, 2015 00:28
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Funky Britches posted:Huey didn't seem like a psychopath so much as an incredible coward who's constantly lying to cover his rear end. He also used his son as a test pilot in a dangerous experiment and betrayed every single group that ever helped him.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:32
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One cool thing about the whole Venom Boss thing is that every MGS game was about the protagonist getting used for bigger goals of others. This time though it's YOU being used for the goals of the actual Big Boss, and you don't realize it until the very end. EDIT: The second infection part is loving amazing too. The iDroid notifications were cherry on top of that. TPP is loving brilliant. gently caress you if you disagree. Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Sep 6, 2015 |
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Sep 6, 2015 00:33
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randombattle posted:He also used his son as a test pilot in a dangerous experiment and betrayed every single group that ever helped him. He tried to take Emma with him though, as his last act of villainous spite.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:34
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It's cool that this game reconciles "rear end in a top hat who tried to drown his stepdaughter" from MGS2 and "literally Otacon in a wheelchair" from Peace Walker in a pretty perfect way.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:35
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It's great because you expect him to be all bro with Snake like Otacon is and he turns out to be a big piece of poo poo.
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Sep 6, 2015 00:37
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I haven't made it there yet, but I heard that there is a side op you do where quiet leaves Do you ever see her in the story again or get her once you do all the missions or osmething?
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Sep 6, 2015 00:39
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Eonwe posted:I haven't made it there yet, but I heard that there is a side op you do where quiet leaves Quiet leaves after the very last story mission of the game, the one after the secret secret ending even and she never comes back. I was very bummed out after I found out that she doesn't come back. You could even say that because of her absence I was feeling...phantom pain. She was a really good buddy.
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