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KillHour posted:Yes. Right after Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Jesus and Buddha combine to form Megazord to fight Mecha Hitler Godzilla. If this is the apocalypse then let's get started, it's way better than the poo poo we have going on down here.
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Cephalocidal posted:If Trump deals enough lasting damage to the rest of them the GOP will rehab him for the general even if he flames out. They'll wash the slime off and prop him back up as their least worst chance at saving the downticket slots. Nah, they'd run a potted plant over Trump if they get half a chance.
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Dolash posted:
Carson, Fiorina, and Cruz. You can ad Santorum but his base is Carson and cruz's. Edit: asked something stupid and don't want to risk it. Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 08:27 on Sep 6, 2015 |
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Youth Decay posted:Yesterday I went to a little county fair in a tiny town in bumfuck nowhere, Virginia. Basically Redneck Prime. There was a David Allan Coe concert last night and it had exactly the kind of crowd you'd expect would attend a David Allan Coe concert in 2015. Confederate flags every-loving-where.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just can't understand this image of the prewar South guys like that they claim to have that doesn't have slavery front and center in it. It's one of those "ceci n'est pas une pipe" things. It had slavery, they know it, you know it, and they know you know it. They just keep saying it doesn't because they want to idolize the concept of the slave-owning social structure without incurring the full disdain of society. So, they pull this "me or your lyin' eyes" poo poo so you're busy trying to puzzle that one out while they nod sagely like they have some secret truth those drat yankee book larnin's ain't never told yins the truth about.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just can't understand this image of the prewar South guys like that they claim to have that doesn't have slavery front and center in it. It's glossed over by focusing on the ostentatious displays of wealth among the planter aristocracy, era of gracious living and all that. Or if you're the Charleston Museum handwaved by saying "Well that rice and cotton weren't gonna pick itself."
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Sep 6, 2015 09:45
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Vox Nihili posted:Nah, they'd run a potted plant over Trump if they get half a chance. Yeah, I think that's right. Trump could only rip the nomination from the fingers of the GOP over their last ounce of resistance, riding a populist wave so huge the establishment was cowed into defeat and figured sacrificing the electoral cycle was worth the price of keeping the party intact. Even in that case I think the establishment figures would probably all but go into hiding, giving lip service about the importance of beating the Democrats and just trying to stay out of the fallout. It's not just a matter of winning or policies, Trump has offended mainstream discourse and leveled unforgivable, base, vulgar insults against his competitors (and anyone in tweet-range). On a purely personal level quite a lot of the establishment simply couldn't endorse him, to do so would be the lowest act of capitulation and cowardice that even their own supporters and the media at large would notice. If by true madness Trump became President there's no doubt in my mind the Democrats and Republicans in the lame duck session would pass bipartisan legislation curtailing the President's power for Obama to sign into law while he still could.
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Dolash posted:Yeah, I think that's right. Trump could only rip the nomination from the fingers of the GOP over their last ounce of resistance, riding a populist wave so huge the establishment was cowed into defeat and figured sacrificing the electoral cycle was worth the price of keeping the party intact. Even in that case I think the establishment figures would probably all but go into hiding, giving lip service about the importance of beating the Democrats and just trying to stay out of the fallout. Why goons love Trump. txt
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comes along bort posted:It's glossed over by focusing on the ostentatious displays of wealth among the planter aristocracy, era of gracious living and all that. Back when men knew their place, the farm equipment knew their place, and women were to be seen and not heard while sipping juleps amidst the crepe myrtles as summer thunderstorms rolled in off the cape.
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"The pledge was very specific: not to run as a third party candidate. And I'm not!" - Trump, moments after Hillary picked him for VP and ushered in the Broken Age.
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Trump's the gift that keeps on giving.  Why no, asking those kinds of questions that are clearly nothing like what a reporter should ask the next leader of the free world. 
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Sep 6, 2015 12:00
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Montasque posted:In this article, terrible human being and TRUE CONSERVATIVE, Jonah Goldberg has a full on melt down thanks to Donald Trump: I love that "true conservatives" just can't understand why their base loves Trump. People like Goldberg believe that their ideology and beliefs are so pure, so infallible, so universally correct that everyone should bask in their glory but, when the rubes decide to follow a new pied piper well they are just the ignorant lumpen masses, incapable of thinking for themselves. Also Jonah Goldberg is a worthless human being.
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Sep 6, 2015 12:08
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Trump's the gift that keeps on giving. It's like this should be funny, but it just seems like all his insult tweets are the same.
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Sep 6, 2015 12:19
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Trump's the gift that keeps on giving. Hewitt did Trump a favour, since now he knows he has to brush up a little bit before the big debate. Also, Trump could have handled this situation way better than he did. But that's very-high-energy Trump for you.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Trump's the gift that keeps on giving. I'll give you al-Baghdadi, but to be honest I couldn't have told you off-hand who Nasrallah was either. Even if I generally know where Hezbollah stands religiously and ideologically and what their situation is. I don't know if it reflects that badly on Trump, I'm sure people like Reagan or Bush were often unable to answer questions a hundred times more simple.
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Phlegmish posted:I'll give you al-Baghdadi, but to be honest I couldn't have told you off-hand who Nasrallah was either. Me neither, but then again, I'm not running for president of the United States. quote:I don't know if it reflects that badly on Trump, I'm sure people like Reagan or Bush were often unable to answer questions a hundred times more simple. Are we talking Bush Sr. or Jr. here? Because Bush Sr. was pretty well versed in foreign affairs.
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In a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is Trump to get elected? How likely is Bernie?
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Grouchio posted:In a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is Trump to get elected? How likely is Bernie? 0
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Grouchio posted:In a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is Trump to get elected? How likely is Bernie? Close to zero and it's also extremely unlikely that he'll run independent- he'd need to start doing the groundwork for that like months ago.
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Sep 6, 2015 14:05
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I'll go so far as to say it's impossible for an independent candidate to get elected in this country with the currently election rules ,unless one of the major parties are trying to pull shenanigans and it backfires.
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That said, the Bernie people are going to like this NBC/Marist New Hampshire poll.
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She's simply amazing.
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Joementum posted:She's simply amazing. i could swear she has said this before. ha. more recently that position is being given to someone with a background in physics, no? Grouchio posted:In a scale of 1 to 10, how likely is Trump to get elected? How likely is Bernie? 0 for trump i'd say a solid 5 for berndog
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Why Trump won't win:quote:But can Donald Trump really win the 2016 Republican presidential nomination? quote:
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/aug/22/donald-trump-wont-win-republican-presidential-nomination The unfavorability numbers are dated, but there's still some good stuff there, especially the Guiliani comparisons, and the endorsement factor.
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I'd give Bernie a solid 2 - and that's as someone who's donated to his campaign and wears his T-shirts out in public. Willingly, even. A lot of things would have to go just right to get Bernie elected, but I do think he's got a shot. Trump? 0.01. It'd take a miracle.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I just can't understand this image of the prewar South guys like that they claim to have that doesn't have slavery front and center in it. The same reason LARPers and SCA people love the middle ages. A romanticized view of the time based on movies and literature (Gone with the Wind, etc.) and a belief that if they were alive back then, they'd be the aristocracy and not the bottom of the ladder.
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Just to confirm, that's the one with the nuclear bombs right?
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Yes. EDIT: Its maintaining anyway.
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The X-man cometh posted:The same reason LARPers and SCA people love the middle ages. A romanticized view of the time based on movies and literature (Gone with the Wind, etc.) and a belief that if they were alive back then, they'd be the aristocracy and not the bottom of the ladder. Pretty much. The traitor states held referendums on secession, and iirc they all had very flimsy majorities for secession. The most likely position of a random southerner in 1860/61 would have been yeoman farmer or some other prole. They almost certainly would have resented the poo poo out of the Planter Class, and could very well have hated everything about the Confederacy.
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Sep 6, 2015 15:16
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Only 14 heartbeats away from the presidency. Absolutely chilling...
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The Giuliani comparison is absurd. Giuliani pulled completely out of the critical first two contests and moved his entire campaign infrastructure to Florida. When Huckabee won IA, McCain won NH, and Romney got second in each everyone forgot Giuliani existed. Trump is going all in on the first two contests and, in particular, is dominating New Hampshire. There also isn't an establishment candidate with strong preexisting ties to New Hampshire, unlike McCain, who won the state in 2000, or Romney, who had been governor of adjacent Massachusetts.
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gently caress the Republic. posted:
Her Bachelor's degree in communications earned after transferring to four different schools to complete makes her more than qualified in her own mind.
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Speaking of IA and NH, those Marist polls Joementum mentioned: NH: Dems Sanders 41% Clinton 32% Biden 16% Webb 1% O’Malley 1% Chafee 0% If Biden doesn’t run… Sanders 49% Clinton 38% Webb 2% Chafee 1% O’Malley 1% GOP:  Trump 28% Kasich 12% Carson 11% Bush 8% Fiorina 6% Paul 5% Cruz 5% Christie 5% Walker 4% Rubio 3% Huckabee 2% Graham 1% Jindal 1% Santorum, Perry, Pataki, Gilmore 0% IA: Dems Clinton 38% Sanders 27% Biden 20% O’Malley 4% Webb 2% Chafee 1% If Biden doesn’t run… Clinton 48% Sanders 37% O’Malley 4% Webb 2% Chafee 1% GOP  Trump 29% Carson 22% Bush 6% Fiorina 5% Paul 5% Walker 5% Cruz 4% Rubio 4% Jindal 4% Huckabee 3% Christie 2% Kasich 2% Santorum 1% Pataki, Perry, Gilmore, Graham 0%
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Haha gently caress Scott Walker forever.
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Interesting that Biden's support splits basically 50/50 between Clinton and Sanders when you cut him out.
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The only one within striking distance of Trump is Carson, it seems. Still, it's most likely going to be Trump vs. Sanders. If it's Trump vs. Hillary, then it'd be Trump's election to lose.
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Shageletic posted:Why Trump won't win: I just got a degree in political science. If Trump gets the nomination, thus rendering it obsolete and proving that everything political scientists know is wrong, I hope I can get a refund. William Bear fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Sep 6, 2015 |
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Patter Song posted:The Giuliani comparison is absurd. Giuliani pulled completely out of the critical first two contests and moved his entire campaign infrastructure to Florida. When Huckabee won IA, McCain won NH, and Romney got second in each everyone forgot Giuliani existed. The Giuliani comparison is on purely national poll numbers. Obviously Trump is going to do his Trump thing instead of being Mayor 9/11, the argument however is that Trump's numbers are not unheard of for a candidate that would go on to lose. Giuliani played the national poll game and thought that the media from that would be enough. While Trump is making moves toward actual ground game in Iowa and New Hampshire he is still very much in the same mold as Giuliani, bloviating to the national media and pointing to his national polls as proof of his chances. It's still way too early to take polls without truck loads of salt and as far as I've seen Trump still hasn't done more than throw some money at a ground game. He's still not paying for much of a staff. It should be noted that Giuliani's campaign was astoundingly boneheaded in that he publicly pined his hopes on a contest that's value was known to be somewhere between half and zero of it's stated value due to Florida jumping the line. Trump's campaign does seem to have examined the Giuliani campaign's autopsy for what not to do when you're underwater in popularity. Giuliani tried to dodge the voters who didn't like him, Trump instead has force fed them so much red meat that they can't even remember when he wasn't their guy.
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