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Guavanaut posted:Presidential veto would be the obvious one. I can't think of any single individual who has that power of veto in a Westminster system, except for in the Commonwealth Realms where a monarch who would never dare use it has it. There's also presidential immunity. With a Prime minister you can just replace him with another from the party.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Haha you don't know anything about politics. Why don't you go ahead and describe these supposed quasi-royal powers (which are probably just powers that the prime minister or whatever the gently caress has in other countries), Haha, you don't know anything about politics (of non-presidential systems of government). How about the ability to wage war without Congress' approval? Angela Merkel would be out of a job if she did what Bush/Obama had done.
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Guavanaut posted:Presidential veto would be the obvious one. I can't think of any single individual who has that power of veto in a Westminster system, except for in the Commonwealth Realms where a monarch who would never dare use it has it. The veto can be overridden by the legislature. Just like with the Presidents or equivalents in a bunch of European countries, or like in Icleand where instead of the overriding being done by the legislature, it's instead done by a country-wide referendum. Kurtofan posted:There's also presidential immunity. With a Prime minister you can just replace him with another from the party. The Congress is free to remove the President if they choose to successfully impeach him. He's no more immune than the congress members are. Don't know where you got the idea he's untouchable. Nixon would probably have been impeached if he hadn't been smart enough to resign. Arglebargle III posted:Evelation? No, as then you'd see the pale blue/green up the coasts instead of just extreme southern parts. Torrannor posted:Haha, you don't know anything about politics (of non-presidential systems of government). How about the ability to wage war without Congress' approval? Angela Merkel would be out of a job if she did what Bush/Obama had done. What about it? Congress chose to authorize that power in the past, particularly through various military treaties. Also last I checked many if not most royals aren't allowed to wage war without their parliaments' approval. So it's a bit anachronistic to call that quasi-royal isn't it?
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Nintendo Kid posted:
There's no impeachment process in France.
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Kurtofan posted:There's no impeachment process in France. The guy specifically asserted that the American president is quasi-royal.
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Maybe there should be a monarchy thread.
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Sep 7, 2015 15:48
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Kurtofan posted:There's no impeachment process in France. 
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Nintendo Kid posted:The guy specifically asserted that the American president is quasi-royal. Well I was talking about presidents in general. yeah great, very stable system of politics. "hope a revolution bursts out, with all the problem it entails".
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Nintendo Kid posted:The veto can be overridden by the legislature. Just like with the Presidents or equivalents in a bunch of European countries, or like in Icleand where instead of the overriding being done by the legislature, it's instead done by a country-wide referendum.
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Something weather related I'm guessing. Not climate zones though.
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Nintendo Kid posted:What about it? Congress chose to authorize that power in the past, particularly through various military treaties. Also last I checked many if not most royals aren't allowed to wage war without their parliaments' approval. So it's a bit anachronistic to call that quasi-royal isn't it? That's the point, ceremonial monarchs don't have their old royal powers anymore, which is one of the reasons why they are acceptable now. And you really think that Obama's war against ISIS is authorized by the Iraq AUMF?
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Kurtofan posted:yeah great, very stable system of politics. "hope a revolution bursts out, with all the problem it entails". It was meant as a joke, so please relax.
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Torrannor posted:That's the point, ceremonial monarchs don't have their old royal powers anymore, which is one of the reasons why they are acceptable now. I assure you that congress is extremely in favor of bombing ISIS. Hell what they want is more troops on the ground. They keep reauthorizing the money to keep up the military stuff which is approval as all hell. Sounds more like you're upset that the precise mechanism of wars isn't exactly the same as pedophile island uses. If they weren't down with it, he couldn't afford to do it. Grand Fromage posted:Something weather related I'm guessing. Not climate zones though. That's getting pretty close!
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Nintendo Kid posted:Anyway try this one: Some kind of old growing/planting season map?
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Here's the full original image:
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Could also be 'best times to visit parts of the US' 
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Nintendo Kid posted:
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Nintendo Kid posted:Here's the full original image: The Gulf Coast and the Sonoran Desert are the only parts of continental U.S. not to have fall colors?
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e: gently caress wrong page
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Nintendo Kid posted:Here's the full original image: Seems gay and retarded lol
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Nintendo Kid posted:Here's the full original image: the color of her hair
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To be fair the value for money of the royal family is seeing a whole load of autists sperg out over it. So good job thread.
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Kurtofan posted:the color of her hair  Outer Banks through Texas and California seem to have got it straight.
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Kurtofan posted:the color of her hair
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Phlegmish posted:Really? Through which democratic channels have they expressed that preference? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liechtenstein_constitutional_referendum,_2012
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quote:The Royal family threatened to veto the referendum if it resulted in a vote in favour of removing the veto. 
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Liechtenstein is crazy because the prince has actual power. It's also a backwards shithole considering topics such as abortion. It's not a good example of a 21st century constitutional monarchy.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Haha you don't know anything about politics. Why don't you go ahead and describe these supposed quasi-royal powers (which are probably just powers that the prime minister or whatever the gently caress has in other countries), Growing Zones? Or something to do with first frost? edit: oh missed a page Peanut President fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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 Donations in support and against Prop 8 a few years back.
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Nintendo Kid posted:Here's the full original image: Dang, I was going to guess "grooviest color in 1975".
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Kurtofan posted:yeah great, very stable system of politics. "hope a revolution bursts out, with all the problem it entails". Hey, it worked the last four times. For a while.
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Echo Chamber posted:This map still obscures how the campaign was funded by the Mormon church. Nah, you can see the huge swathe of pink dots under the blue lines from New England. I was expecting them to come from the South, too, so it was all the more jarring.
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Orange County being full of conservative dickwads is not surprising either.
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Living quarters of people who have a genetic mutation for upside down nose growth.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:The Crown Estate: The Crown estates are super complex but basically if the monarchy was abolished they get to keep them and pretty much everything belonging to the Crown as they surrender them to Parliament in return for not having g to pay the Civil Service anymore. Austria is currently working on just how much they owe Otto Von Hapsburg for a very similar reason, but courts say its a lot.
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I wanted to say "Germans", but Germans would be more prominent in the middle bits and less prominent in New England. So - Serbs?
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sbaldrick posted:The Crown estates are super complex but basically if the monarchy was abolished they get to keep them and pretty much everything belonging to the Crown as they surrender them to Parliament in return for not having g to pay the Civil Service anymore. there's this thing called nationalization that britain has done some of in the past 
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icantfindaname posted:there's this thing called nationalization that britain has done some of in the past Nationalization is not a permanent solution, if history is something to go by. Sbaldrick mentioned an example from Austria. Similarly the Czech republic is still dealing with returning property to the Church and to aristocrats, more than half a century after nationalization. Needless to say it inspires less than elegant popular passions.
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Ponsonby Britt posted:The Crown Estate: It's administered by a public trust, which is owned by Parliament. The Treasury takes in whatever revenue it generates, and that money goes into general revenue, less whatever the current deal is with the monarchs, which is the 15%. George III essentially traded it to Parliament in exchange for them assuming the cost of the administering the state, because the revenues from the Crown Estate couldn't pay for it anymore. So it's really just public land, but with a fancy name owing to the history, same as Crown Land here in the Dominions. It's administered according to whatever rules Parliament feels like setting for itself, because Parliament is sovereign. Various branches of the government definitely do own land outside that structure. The military owns plenty of the country, just like anywhere (except Costa Rica I guess?); other government departments do too. Lots of public land floating around, but usually owned by a more local authority rather than the United Kingdom at large. The monarchy owns land separately from that too, I think Balmoral Castle is properly owned by the Queen, although I have no idea if it's just a fee simple title, or something more unusual. steinrokkan posted:Nationalization is not a permanent solution, if history is something to go by. Sbaldrick mentioned an example from Austria. Similarly the Czech republic is still dealing with returning property to the Church and to aristocrats, more than half a century after nationalization. Needless to say it inspires less than elegant popular passions. Since Parliament is supreme, there's nothing that could legally stop them from confiscating whatever land rights they wanted, or just refusing to pay the monarchy. But yeah, the public would be pissed. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Sep 8, 2015 |
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.