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Yawgmoth posted:I think it's more the issue that whiny casuals are orders of magnitude more likely to whine that they didn't like it (especially on their cesspit of a forum) than anyone of any skill level is going to say "hey good job wizards I really liked this set and especially XYZ." So if you just look at who came to them and said a thing, it's wildly disproportionate. You really think Mark Rosewater goes around trawling random forums to get feedback? He's talking based on the results of WotC's market research, not his casual browsing of MTG Salvation.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:33
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Try Ebay
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Sep 7, 2015 17:34
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This deck is doing pretty well and people are loving it on stream.....what, people want to buy the deck? Unacceptable!
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Sep 7, 2015 17:35
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Angry Grimace posted:How do you even kill Lumbering Falls? We're gonna need Tec Edge up in here or your opponent's gonna need to have 0 other creatures and you have a sac effect. By having a 4/4. If your deck doesn't run big enough creatures you might be in trouble though.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:36
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Ahahahaha I have so many slivers I'm gonna be richOjetor posted:You really think Mark Rosewater goes around trawling random forums to get feedback? He's talking based on the results of WotC's market research, not his casual browsing of MTG Salvation.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:37
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"Many players did not like ROE draft because it operates on a completely different axis than other formats leading to you getting blown out if you draft it normally" just sounds like a valid argument market research aside. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that Magic players are incapable of understanding that someone else didn't like a thing they liked to the point of assuming someone saying so must be lying.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:38
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From what we've seen so far it certainly looks like they're trying to give the people who liked original ROE draft more of what they want while bringing in some of what people liked from Zendikar. If that Scythe Leopard is anything to go by, they're tuning down the power level of Landfall creatures a bit so I wouldn't expect any of the Plated Geopede type creatures that made ZEN draft so fast. I hope they actually managed to pull off a draft format where archetypes like Allies and Eldrazi Ramp are both actually good and viable.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:43
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Ojetor posted:You really think Mark Rosewater goes around trawling random forums to get feedback? He's talking based on the results of WotC's market research, not his casual browsing of MTG Salvation. Ojetor posted:You really think Mark Rosewater goes around trawling random forums to get feedback? He's talking based on the results of WotC's market research, not his casual browsing of MTG Salvation. I agree with you, but D&D next and RPGnet stand as pretty solid counterpoint :-p A lot of people don't seem to grasp that Maro very much works in a world that assumes people who know nothing about magic, and don't interact much with the magic community. This crowd is very hard to work with because it's almost impossible to get data on them, but they're super important to the game because they're who transition into enfranchised players.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:49
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 +1 Untap up to 1 target creature and up to 1 target land. -2 Reveal top 4 cards of your library. You may put up to 1 creature card and up to 1 land card into your hand. Put the rest into your graveyard. -8 You get an emblem with "whenever a creature enters the battlefield under you control, you may have it fight with target creature and put 3 8/8 blue octopus into battlefield." I'm not sure about the translation on that ultimate, sounds off. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 17:53
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Awwww yussss Kiora also:  Creature - Elemental Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on [CARDNAME]. Whenever damage is dealt to [CARDNAME], remove a +1/+1 counter and prevent that damage instead E: it seems the guy who spoiled Ob Nixilis early was right:  Ob Nixilis Reignited 3BB Planeswalker - Ob Nixilis [+1]: Draw a card. You lose 1 life. [-3]: Drestroy target creature. [-8]: Target opponent gets an emblem with "When you draw a card lose 2 life." GlennFinito fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 17:55
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GlennFinito posted:Scythe Leopard is probably one of the staples of the new coming standard. I don't know, a 2/2 for 1 isn't that big a deal anymore, and I don't think that the upside is big enough to make it worth playing. Sure, you may get a 3/3 for one turn, but it's worse than a vanilla 2/1 after that.
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 +1 Draw a card, you lose 1 life -3 Destroy Target Creature -8 Whenever opponent draws a card they lose 2 life.
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Sep 7, 2015 17:58
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Angry Grimace posted:
i'm the small, lava-filled holes where his nipples should be
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Sep 7, 2015 17:59
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GlennFinito posted:Awwww yussss Kiora I'm wondering if the damage is actually prevented if you don't have a counter to remove. The wording implies so, but I assume this is a fan translation so I'm not relying on that just yet.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:01
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Some people are saying they're fakes, but I don't know, the link I got seemed to be off of Wizard's servers so  Not to mention, the Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh image I got straight from here was posted on MTGS and they banned the guy who posted it for posting "bad fakes." So I guess we will wait and see. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 18:01
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Angry Grimace posted:
For the ultimate, the emblem has the fight ability. After you get the emblem, then you get the three 8/8 octopi.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:01
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Booyah- posted:For the ultimate, the emblem has the fight ability. After you get the emblem, then you get the three 8/8 octopi. Needs a nontoken rider on the first clause though, otherwise it loops forever. 
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Sep 7, 2015 18:04
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JerryLee posted:Needs a nontoken rider on the first clause though, otherwise it loops forever. Good to see you are still illiterate.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:06
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JerryLee posted:Needs a nontoken rider on the first clause though, otherwise it loops forever. The ultimate is "You get an emblem with 'Your creatures fight when the enter the battlefield.' Then you get three 8/8s."
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Sep 7, 2015 18:07
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Sep 7, 2015 18:09
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MaRo stated that we're not getting all the enemy manlands in BFZ. We're getting a few in the next set (that has a stupid name.) Also, does this mean that the black repeatable bitterblossom-esque card that ramps you is real? Because that thing is going to make delve unusable in standard.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:09
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GeneX posted:MaRo stated that we're not getting all the enemy manlands in BFZ. We're getting a few in the next set (that has a stupid name.) What was that supposed to do again?
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Sep 7, 2015 18:10
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MaRo presided over the shitstain that was ZEN-WWK limited so I imagine his otherwise inexplicable disdain for ROE is borne out of irrational contempt for how poorly his set was received in comparison.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:12
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Toshimo posted:Good to see you are still illiterate. Ah, I didn't parse the differences between the original posting of the ability and Booyah's correction. e: And the elemental does indeed need a counter to get the damage prevention. Doesn't seem mythic at that point, to be quite honest.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:12
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Wurzag posted:What was that supposed to do again? 1B(B?) Enchantment. Exile a card from the top of your opponents deck during your upkeep. (1), return an exiled card to your opponent's graveyard: put an eldrazi scion into play.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:13
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Wurzag posted:What was that supposed to do again? Pay 1, move a card from opponent's exile to the graveyard and get a 1/1 Eldrazi Scion with "sac: add 1" Its not confirmed at all, some guy claimed it was real.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:13
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GlennFinito posted:Awwww yussss Kiora Haven't they only done that type of ability before on 0-toughness creatures so that if the last counter gets removed it dies? This guy just plain can't die to damage unless there's something lost in translation. Seems pretty good. Granted it still dies to "destroy target creature" spells and -X/-X effects so it's far from invincible. Yup, there it is, damage only gets prevented if there's a +1/+1 counter to remove.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:13
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i wish ob nixilis's +1 was targeted. welp,
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Sep 7, 2015 18:13
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Wurzag posted:What was that supposed to do again? 1, Put an opponents card from exile into their graveyard: Make an Eldrazi Scion token. Add Impact Tremors (and a RIP effect where valid) for spice and just laugh your way to the bank.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:14
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GeneX posted:MaRo stated that we're not getting all the enemy manlands in BFZ. We're getting a few in the next set (that has a stupid name.) So assuming a 3/2 split and all five colours represented in BFZ, RW/BG, RW/WB, WB/RU are the likely combinations
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Sep 7, 2015 18:17
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JerryLee posted:Ah, I didn't parse the differences between the original posting of the ability and Booyah's correction. Seems like a Limited Bomb Mythic, yeah. Even though white has Sheer Drop and Flash-Journey to Nowhere at common and uncommon.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:18
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Kiora is interesting, the -2 is the reason to play her, but you do need quite a few good creatures to make it worthwhile. Maybe she'll see play if there is a midrange deck that runs too many big creatures for CoCo, but as of right now there is no good reason to play blue in such a deck.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:25
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Kiora 2 and Nykthos (plus a Voyaging Satyr) would have been loving dumb as poo poo.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:25
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It's a pretty plain design but if mono-black control were ever a thing again this guy does everything that archetype wants- card advantage, defense, and inevitability. I think Standard is still too multi-colored to favor a deck like that but if it were around (or even Bx Control) he'd be a no-brainer. Also I can't believe I'm the first poster in invoke MBC with this card.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:26
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Angry Grimace posted:Seems like a Limited Bomb Mythic, yeah. Even though white has Sheer Drop and Flash-Journey to Nowhere at common and uncommon. I wouldn't be surprised if it's constructed playable, especially with fetches in the environment--without even getting into magic fantasy land, it can attack for the first time as a 4/4 or bigger, that doesn't die easily to combat or burn-- but it feels more like a rare than a mythic nonetheless.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:26
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That 2/2 for 1GG doesn't look like it'll do much of anything until Khans rotates, if at all. Both those Walkers look really fun, though.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:27
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 That's likely just a higher price tag since they've all been bought out, and only the ridiculously expensive sellers remain. Still, now I'm quite glad I ordered mine yesterday before they were all gone. I would love to see this (come back) as a recurring mechanic.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:28
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C-Euro posted:It's a pretty plain design but if mono-black control were ever a thing again this guy does everything that archetype wants- card advantage, defense, and inevitability. I think Standard is still too multi-colored to favor a deck like that but if it were around (or even Bx Control) he'd be a no-brainer. Also I can't believe I'm the first poster in invoke MBC with this card.
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JerryLee posted:I wouldn't be surprised if it's constructed playable, especially with fetches in the environment--without even getting into magic fantasy land, it can attack for the first time as a 4/4 or bigger, that doesn't die easily to combat or burn-- but it feels more like a rare than a mythic nonetheless. That's probably because the feel of the card is very similar to Managorger Hydra. Wild Slash's Ferocious Trigger finally gets its day in the sun. At the same cost, you're gonna have a tough time finding a reason to run this guy over the Den Protector/Deathmist Raptor combo. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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