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You should be able to, and it makes the most sense - you dealt with the immediate threat of ancient Vint, now you can more or less freely explore Deep Roads and Avvar lands.
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GuyUpNorth posted:You should be able to, and it makes the most sense - you dealt with the immediate threat of ancient Vint, now you can more or less freely explore Deep Roads and Avvar lands. Not tot mention that a key plot point of Descent works best after you've wrapped up Varric's companion quest.
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SubponticatePoster posted:You don't have to lose Cass though, just go talk to her immediately post game and tell her you want her to stick around. They're supposedly making this work in Trespasser somehow so that if Viv or Cass are wearing a funny hat you can still take them along. Having the Divine with you murdering folks is pretty Can I continue to sleep with the Divine? Can I marry the Divine? If I divorce the Divine what do I get half of?
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grack posted:Can I continue to sleep with the Divine? These questions are actually relevant to me right now because my super faithful templar is dating Cass and I can't decide if we'd be happier confirming my girlfriend as pope or putting one of the other ladies on the throne so we can keep going on smutty romantic dates.
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Sep 7, 2015 01:09
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I got murderpope Leliana both playthroughs somehow 
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Crow Jane posted:I got murderpope Leliana both playthroughs somehow I endorsed Cass at every turn and this happened to me too. I think I agreed with Leliana's pragmatism one too many times in the earlygame or something. Or maybe it was allying with both the mages and grey wardens. Also never triggered the blackwall reveal but I can't remember if I visited the barn much in the lategame so that one might be on me.
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Sep 7, 2015 02:18
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Weirdly, I had the opposite problem; I pushed for Leliana as much as I could and made zero decisions Cass approved of (I abolished the Templars, kept the Grey Wardens around, saved Celene and generally poo poo all over the Chantry whenever possible) and she still ended up Divine. I kinda wished she'd stuck around for Jaws of Hakkon, though. Even when romancing Blackwall he's just such a drat sadsack.
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^^^^ You can ask Cassandra to stick around post end-game. You need to talk to her in her normal spot.Blasmeister posted:I endorsed Cass at every turn and this happened to me too. I think I agreed with Leliana's pragmatism one too many times in the earlygame or something. Or maybe it was allying with both the mages and grey wardens. Also never triggered the blackwall reveal but I can't remember if I visited the barn much in the lategame so that one might be on me. These are both fairly big boosts to Leliana and minuses for both Vivienne and Cassandra. grack fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 03:39
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Don't tell me you put Briala in charge as well?
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BrianWilly posted:Don't tell me you put Briala in charge as well? Was this to me? I reunited her and Celene. Blasmeister fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 04:20
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Never encourage Leliana, never support her. She's an extremely effective agent, but the lady is just bonkers. Like, good or evil it doesn't matter, she's nuts and always has been. Remember that the very first time you meet her in DA: O, she tells you that she has to come along on your quest because God Told Her To.
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Sep 7, 2015 12:12
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thats perfectly believable considering going with the warden results in her becoming the divine
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Sep 7, 2015 15:08
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Skippy McPants posted:Never encourage Leliana, never support her. She's an extremely effective agent, but the lady is just bonkers. Like, good or evil it doesn't matter, she's nuts and always has been. Like real life, the word is still out on whether the Maker "exists" in Dragon Age.
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Skippy McPants posted:Never encourage Leliana, never support her. She's an extremely effective agent, but the lady is just bonkers. Like, good or evil it doesn't matter, she's nuts and always has been. Doesn't she tell you that she made that up if you get a good enough relationship with her? Leilana always struck me as someone whose loyalty is to the institution of the Chantry, and not the Maker.
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Thor-Stryker posted:Like real life, the word is still out on whether the Maker "exists" in Dragon Age. The games are deliberate in keeping the Maker's existence vague. At least until now when things like the origin of the Blight, the invasion of the Golden City, the titans, and the elven pantheon are becoming central to the plot. Fangz posted:Doesn't she tell you that she made that up if you get a good enough relationship with her? She says it was something she probably just told herself because she wanted to be in something important for once. Whether or not it really meant anything is left vague. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 18:26
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I was planning on both putting Gaspard in charge and recruiting the Grey Wardens this run. Man Cole's gonna take a huge approval hit. But exiling the Wardens means Blackwall's gonna hate me, so. Gaspard is the least scumbag option of the three anyway, isn't he? I've still never let Celene die.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:36
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ApplesandOranges posted:I was planning on both putting Gaspard in charge and recruiting the Grey Wardens this run. Man Cole's gonna take a huge approval hit. But exiling the Wardens means Blackwall's gonna hate me, so. I think there was a bit in the books were he tried getting university scholars to define elfs as animals and having sex with one defined as bestiality. But its probably more to do with knocking down Celene a peg than pure racism so...
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Sep 7, 2015 18:55
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ApplesandOranges posted:I was planning on both putting Gaspard in charge and recruiting the Grey Wardens this run. Man Cole's gonna take a huge approval hit. But exiling the Wardens means Blackwall's gonna hate me, so. Gaspard, being both the most warlike and the least competent at the Game, feels like the most scumbag option, actually, if you care about peace and stability.
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Sep 7, 2015 18:56
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Gaspard is polite and friendly with the Inquisitor, but you can pull him aside and have a chat about his plans for the future. I dunno how crowning him plays out, but he intends to dissemble the Orlesian political system, declare himself autocrat, and go to war with all the neighbors as soon as Corypheus is dealt with. In addition, the blackmail material you get on him is him using peace talks to stage a military coup. Celene and Briala ain't rosy, but I don't think they really compare. He's also kind of incompetent, as Celene had already anticipated the coup and would have disgraced him and ended the war if there hadn't been an assassin. Zulily Zoetrope fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Sep 7, 2015 |
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Sep 7, 2015 19:00
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Holy poo poo there's so much to do in this game. According to my saves it's been six hours of gameplay since I got to Skyhold and started juggling wartable missions, companion dialog, agonizing over the specialization chioce. I... haven't actually left Skyhold in those six hours.
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Sep 7, 2015 19:08
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After what feels like eons, I've finally heard some new dialogue between Blackwall and Vivienne. They hate each other, but their perspectives are like someone who works in a non-profit and someone who works in the legislature, so I can understand both of their arguments. But they don't see the value of each other's perspectives, so they hate each other. I wish companions would get into actual fights because I want Blackwall to break Vivienne's teeth sometimes. edit: And then Cole comes out and tells everyone that Vivienne is afraid of caring because she sees it as weakness, but she does care, even about him.  I wonder how much Viv is going to feature in later stuff, considering she's entirely optional.
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Sep 7, 2015 19:45
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I'm pretty sure Vivienne is invincible or something so I doubt thats how the fight would go down......
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Sep 7, 2015 19:58
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Gaspard is a poo poo head but so is Celene, so I always just went with Briala. Elf supremacy.
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Sep 7, 2015 20:02
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Nephthys posted:I'm pretty sure Vivienne is invincible or something so I doubt thats how the fight would go down...... Nah, the AI can't run a Knight Enchanter properly.
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Not go mention, Blackwall is more or less invincible himself. They'd be just chipping away at each other for eternity.
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Sep 7, 2015 20:52
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Byers2142 posted:Nah, the AI can't run a Knight Enchanter properly. Disable everything else besides your two invincibility abilities and Viv does a passable job herself.
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Head Hit Keyboard posted:Holy poo poo there's so much to do in this game. According to my saves it's been six hours of gameplay since I got to Skyhold and started juggling wartable missions, companion dialog, agonizing over the specialization chioce. My first few Skyhold visits took hours too. Bioware excels at making home bases filled with interesting dialogue.
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I really liked that the advisors would start to banter at each other if you were taking a while at the war table. I loaded up a post-game save to play Descent before the new DLC, and Cullen and Josie started congratulating Leliana on the whole becoming Divine thing. I am so excited about this new DLC, you guys. Bring on the melodrama.
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Crow Jane posted:Not go mention, Blackwall is more or less invincible himself. They'd be just chipping away at each other for eternity. Spirit Blade wrecks/wrecked guard though.
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Hahahah I don't know which patch put this in, but I was going through one of my early game characters and if you hang around in the Hinterlands very long (Gain too many levels? Too much Power? Complete too many sidequests?), Solas prompts you and Cassandra to go to Val Royeux to deal with the plot in a voiceover that was clearly recorded in a later session. So, when does new DLC usually become available on the release date? Early morning? Mid-afternoon?
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Hrm. Finished one of my Nightmare playthroughs, but no achievement. I wonder if I mistakenly lowered the difficulty at one point or didn't start it at nightmare like I thought and simply forgot, or if it's just a bit buggy like some of the other achievements have been.
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Crow Jane posted:I really liked that the advisors would start to banter at each other if you were taking a while at the war table. I loaded up a post-game save to play Descent before the new DLC, and Cullen and Josie started congratulating Leliana on the whole becoming Divine thing. The banter where Leliana tells Cullen to "Hush, just look pretty!" after WEWH is by far the best advisor banter.
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Should I be regretting making my main a mage? Damage output is poo poo, doesn't seem to be any actual crowd control in sight, there just doesn't seem to be anything satisfying about this class and the only thing I exist to do is throw barriers. Am I missing something? Sure I get that mages were OP in DAO but I just feel like dead weight in my own party.
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Head Hit Keyboard posted:Should I be regretting making my main a mage? Damage output is poo poo, doesn't seem to be any actual crowd control in sight, there just doesn't seem to be anything satisfying about this class and the only thing I exist to do is throw barriers. Am I missing something? Sure I get that mages were OP in DAO but I just feel like dead weight in my own party. What skills are you using? Also, your level?
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Come'on, man, Rift Mage is hilarious.
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Has the bard in Val Royeaux always sung the tavern songs in French and I just didn't notice until now, or was that a new thing added in the patch?
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Fangz posted:Doesn't she tell you that she made that up if you get a good enough relationship with her? That Guardian spirit or whatever it's called in Origins pretty much tells Leliana that she's full of poo poo and Leli gets extremely flustered when confronted.
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QUEEN CAUCUS posted:That Guardian spirit or whatever it's called in Origins pretty much tells Leliana that she's full of poo poo and Leli gets extremely flustered when confronted. To be fair, the Guardian challenges everyone's beliefs, usually in the form of "What if you're wrong about this core part of your identity?"
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Head Hit Keyboard posted:Should I be regretting making my main a mage? Damage output is poo poo, doesn't seem to be any actual crowd control in sight, there just doesn't seem to be anything satisfying about this class and the only thing I exist to do is throw barriers. Am I missing something? Sure I get that mages were OP in DAO but I just feel like dead weight in my own party. Mage is loving ridiculous. Speccing for passive attributes and using chain lightning/static cage/immolate for damage and crowd control is awesome. Add in Fade Walk for maneuverability and added chill -- mage is fun and mobs get wrecked.
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Moon Slayer posted:Has the bard in Val Royeaux always sung the tavern songs in French and I just didn't notice until now, or was that a new thing added in the patch? That was always there. The one in Halamshiral sings in French too. I love sitting there just listening to her.
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