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Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

I like playing with super light strings but less than 9 and it's a bit too much

9s on a 24" scale is a ton of fun

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fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
Can someone point me in the direction of some funky strumming riffs like the main guitar part in I'm Coming Out? I enjoy playing stuff like that I just don't really encounter it in my day to day so I don't know where to go looking for it when I want it.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
Bar your g b and thin e string, strum funkily and slide that up one fret as you do, instant funk!

Or watch this dude he is awesome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlnZ05SGvlk

firebad57
Dec 29, 2008
https://instagram.com/p/7RUN1zMoaD/?taken-by=firebad57

You enthusiastic new classical guitarists inspired me to make a goofy practice video. This one is just for fun, but we (in my group Mobius Trio) will often test our memory and "make pieces feel new" by "playing them" in the wrong tuning. Of course, we're not figuring out how to play the piece in the new tuning, we're playing where the notes "were" in the old tuning, but transposed to wherever the new tuning takes them.

In this case, I was playing my part in our arrangement of Ravel's String Quartet, but with the guitar in a weeeeird C Minor tuning (think the Koyunbaba tuning, if you know it, but down a whole step).

If this sort of thing is just loving stupid, I won't post its like again. Or if you love it, I could post Youtubes of entire pieces/parts in various "wrong" tunings.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

fullroundaction posted:

Can someone point me in the direction of some funky strumming riffs like the main guitar part in I'm Coming Out? I enjoy playing stuff like that I just don't really encounter it in my day to day so I don't know where to go looking for it when I want it.

What about ska? Ever bothered with that kinda stuff?

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day

Spanish Manlove posted:

What about ska? Ever bothered with that kinda stuff?

I was in a Christian ska band in new jersey in the late 90s. Don't trigger me.

e: Also yeah, I love playing Op Ivy / Voodoo Glow Skulls and crap like that.

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

fullroundaction posted:

Can someone point me in the direction of some funky strumming riffs like the main guitar part in I'm Coming Out? I enjoy playing stuff like that I just don't really encounter it in my day to day so I don't know where to go looking for it when I want it.

I've always loved the rhythm to Love Rollercoaster.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

fullroundaction posted:

Can someone point me in the direction of some funky strumming riffs like the main guitar part in I'm Coming Out? I enjoy playing stuff like that I just don't really encounter it in my day to day so I don't know where to go looking for it when I want it.

Literally anything Nile Rodgers is on. Chic, David Bowie's Let's Dance album, Random Access Memories,

actually I'm p. sure that's Nile Rodgers on I'm Coming Out come to think of it

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vczuwdzf6m0

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

fullroundaction posted:

Can someone point me in the direction of some funky strumming riffs like the main guitar part in I'm Coming Out? I enjoy playing stuff like that I just don't really encounter it in my day to day so I don't know where to go looking for it when I want it.

Obligatory punk rock answers, because that's what I'm here for!

Richard Hell & The Voidoids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Xx2Gp-t-E
Gang of Four: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2WKuAWjBRs
Minutemen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5LKJid28xA

Not that those songs are isolated examples, of course. You can find that kind of guitar all over all those guys' recorded outputs.

Otis Reddit
Nov 14, 2006
Obligatory James Brown. Parliament. Curtis Mayfield. Bobby Womack. Prince. Earth Wind and Fire. 9th chords and 7th chords. Don't overplay what you play.

JHVH-1
Jun 28, 2002
Check out this guy JustNickMusic on YouTube. He has a bunch of funk techniques and play along type stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJoAAL_voJg

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

fullroundaction posted:

I was in a Christian ska band in new jersey in the late 90s. Don't trigger me.

e: Also yeah, I love playing Op Ivy / Voodoo Glow Skulls and crap like that.

I love everything in that first sentence.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Skanking for Jesus

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

fullroundaction posted:

I was in a Christian ska band in new jersey in the late 90s. Don't trigger me.

Wasn't every ska band in the late 90s a Christian band? Pretty sure it was federal law.



Otis Reddit posted:

Obligatory James Brown. Parliament. Curtis Mayfield. Bobby Womack. Prince. Earth Wind and Fire. 9th chords and 7th chords. Don't overplay what you play.

Also the Meters, the Isley Brothers, the Ohio Players, Sly and the Family Stone, a bunch of gogo stuff like Rare Essence, Chuck Brown/Soul Searchers, Trouble Funk, etc.

e: and just because it's good music, Frankie Beverly/Maze.

Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Sep 6, 2015

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
Thanks for all the suggestions everyone. I'll be spending my day tomorrow working through a lot of them :buddy:

comes along bort posted:

Wasn't every ska band in the late 90s a Christian band? Pretty sure it was federal law.

Yeah the vast majority. NJ had a great punk/ska scene at the time and the combination of that plus the WWJD/youth group revival created the perfect storm. I couldn't have cared less about the message, but it was a good time.

The best thing about it was you had an endless amount of potential band members and a huge network of support/bookable shows because of the nature of Church Stuff.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

comes along bort posted:

Wasn't every ska band in the late 90s a Christian band? Pretty sure it was federal law.


The only two I'll still listen to were more punk bands and were pretty anti christian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSb91z_QxW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ozuIXRm_o

They;re pretty much what lead to me easily adopting metal and then getting better at the guitar because of it.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

fullroundaction posted:

Yeah the vast majority. NJ had a great punk/ska scene at the time and the combination of that plus the WWJD/youth group revival created the perfect storm. I couldn't have cared less about the message, but it was a good time.

The best thing about it was you had an endless amount of potential band members and a huge network of support/bookable shows because of the nature of Church Stuff.

That was definitely the case pretty much everywhere. The Jebus circuit was almost a guaranteed career because you didn't really have to be any good and there was a prefabricated infrastructure ready to go.

My last band in high school broke up and basically reformed the next week minus me and one other guy as a Christian ska band, and not six months later they were out touring in like ten different states. It was ridiculous.

nitsuga
Jan 1, 2007

firebad57 posted:

https://instagram.com/p/7RUN1zMoaD/?taken-by=firebad57

You enthusiastic new classical guitarists inspired me to make a goofy practice video. This one is just for fun, but we (in my group Mobius Trio) will often test our memory and "make pieces feel new" by "playing them" in the wrong tuning. Of course, we're not figuring out how to play the piece in the new tuning, we're playing where the notes "were" in the old tuning, but transposed to wherever the new tuning takes them.

In this case, I was playing my part in our arrangement of Ravel's String Quartet, but with the guitar in a weeeeird C Minor tuning (think the Koyunbaba tuning, if you know it, but down a whole step).

If this sort of thing is just loving stupid, I won't post its like again. Or if you love it, I could post Youtubes of entire pieces/parts in various "wrong" tunings.

That's cool--and as a three piece?--I really want to hear that. Go ahead and post some more.

Also, Koyunbaba is beautiful. Here's Milos Karadaglic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvBs8ShiqQ4

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

What is Squier Classic Vibe of the classical guitar world? I'm thinking Yamaha C40 as the bottom, and then Cordoba C5 (i.e. $300-$400) are the CV-level ones?

firebad57
Dec 29, 2008

nitsuga posted:

That's cool--and as a three piece?--I really want to hear that. Go ahead and post some more.

Also, Koyunbaba is beautiful. Here's Milos Karadaglic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvBs8ShiqQ4

Here's the real version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgD2vS7YpEo, which I have posted in this thread before. We mostly/almost only perform contemporary music that we commission, but we commissioned this arrangement, and it makes us happy to play. Happy to post more videos of more Mobius things if people want to hear them.


Southern Heel posted:

What is Squier Classic Vibe of the classical guitar world? I'm thinking Yamaha C40 as the bottom, and then Cordoba C5 (i.e. $300-$400) are the CV-level ones?

I think you're pretty much right on those, though from what I've heard students playing lately, I'd recommend saving for a C7 over a C5 over a C3. Some of the C7s my students have sound pretty alright, whereas the others have been hit and miss.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Classical bros: you're all 100% on point. I love it. I've had a little slump because my poor puppy tore her ccl and you know, life gets in the way, but I'm back in practice now. My biggest struggle at the moment is not being able to play finger style bass. I miss it an ungodly amount lately. Every time I listen to a Motown album I weep for what I can no longer sound like.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
Welp I'm currently recording a song and keep fluffing a barre chord so that's how much in awe I am right now :v:

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

After The War posted:

Obligatory punk rock answers, because that's what I'm here for!

Richard Hell & The Voidoids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5Xx2Gp-t-E
Gang of Four: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2WKuAWjBRs
Minutemen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5LKJid28xA

Not that those songs are isolated examples, of course. You can find that kind of guitar all over all those guys' recorded outputs.
For a related question, how the hell do you do hyper-fast strumming stuff like The Wedding Present https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAu7yRxPes and not have it come out as just a jumbled and muddy mess? I feel like I'm missing something obvious

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

The Leck posted:

For a related question, how the hell do you do hyper-fast strumming stuff like The Wedding Present https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAu7yRxPes and not have it come out as just a jumbled and muddy mess? I feel like I'm missing something obvious

That's a kind of two-for-one deal: pivot your wrist on the bridge so you're just slightly muting the strings, and should be able to strum across all six quickly with minimal movement. One of those "economy of motion" things.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

The Leck posted:

For a related question, how the hell do you do hyper-fast strumming stuff like The Wedding Present https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAu7yRxPes and not have it come out as just a jumbled and muddy mess? I feel like I'm missing something obvious

My Weddoes experience on CD is mostly limited to Bizarro, but I've seen them play and know one of the old guitarists reasonably well. Having watched him closely in various bands I feel I can confidentially tell you their super-secret technique, which is 'thrash the gently caress out of it'.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

darkwasthenight posted:

'thrash the gently caress out of it'.

Pretty much the only way to play that fast. Also a really thin pick and just waving your arm about.

peter gabriel
Nov 8, 2011

Hello Commandos
I'm terrible at stuff like that

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Playing fast is the only way to play.

Or playing super slow, like 80bpm. Everything else is boring.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
I've been practicing sweep picking by slowly increasing the speed of my metronome and it seems like every time I practice for an extended period of time I get faster and better. I'd like to avoid having to practice or use a metronome to get better in the future so any tips are welcome.

Real talk though, I always thought it was my picking hand that was my problem with 2-3 string sweeps, turns out it's my fretting hand. Who knew.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

fullroundaction posted:

I've been practicing sweep picking by slowly increasing the speed of my metronome and it seems like every time I practice for an extended period of time I get faster and better. I'd like to avoid having to practice or use a metronome to get better in the future so any tips are welcome.


I love this.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

fullroundaction posted:

I've been practicing sweep picking by slowly increasing the speed of my metronome and it seems like every time I practice for an extended period of time I get faster and better. I'd like to avoid having to practice or use a metronome to get better in the future so any tips are welcome.

Don't use a metronome?

Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.
I was hoping to get some bluetooth or wireless headphones that I can plug into my amp so I can play at night. My current wired headphones are falling apart and I hate the wire getting in the way of playing. I am not concerned with super high audio quality, but am trying to keep my budget below $100 if possible. Anyone have a set up like this? Any suggestions for a set of headphones?

I would probably prefer over-ear type as apposed to in-ear, but I am open to suggestions.

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.
Bluetooth might get laggy, what you can do though is get a good pair of headphones and modify them.

A good starting point are the Superlux HD681's for amazing low end reproduction. Replace the ear pads with some AKG velour pads, trim the cable and search for cable mod guides for this model. You can find simple instructions for adding a jack on the side of the cups to simply adding heatshrink, strain relief and cable braiding after resizing the excessively long cable. If you add a 3.5mm 1/8" jack onto the phones themselves then you can use pocket bluetooth transmitter/recievers to try out wireless but still have the option of plugging in a 3.5mm to 6.35mm cable for wired connections as needed.

Do make sure to replace the pads though because the stock ones are physically painful after 20 minutes. I used AKG240 pads because they fit perfectly and are comfortable for > 3 hours or until your ears get too sweaty.

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

Spanish Manlove posted:

Playing fast is the only way to play.

Or playing super slow, like 80bpm. Everything else is boring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh4ILzqXop0


fullroundaction posted:

I'd like to avoid having to practice

Just do the opposite of what I did in high school - play hooky on your guitar practice to practice an orchestral instrument. It'll all balance out in the end.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

fullroundaction posted:

I've been practicing sweep picking by slowly increasing the speed of my metronome and it seems like every time I practice for an extended period of time I get faster and better. I'd like to avoid having to practice or use a metronome to get better in the future so any tips are welcome.

Hang around a crossroads at night and watch out for a sharply dressed gentleman

Shugojin
Sep 6, 2007

THE TAIL THAT BURNS TWICE AS BRIGHT...


Today I encountered a 100ish year old Washburn all-rosewood guitar :eyepop:

It played pretty nicely and is in fully respectable condition for being that old. Sounds real good too, definitely among the best ~tonez~ for an instrument at $500 asking price. It was tuned down a step which I speculate is for strength reasons but still.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
Satan: You would you give your eternal soul for the ability to impress teenage guitar nerds on Youtube?

Me: -thinks about it-

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
I feel like jazz chords are like when I learned German in high school in that there were so many close-enough cognates that if I just said English words but with a German accent it pretty much got the job done.

Taking a break from Funk to screw around with Bossa again and ughnnn I'm so bad

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Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

fullroundaction posted:

I feel like jazz chords are like when I learned German in high school in that there were so many close-enough cognates that if I just said English words but with a German accent it pretty much got the job done.

Taking a break from Funk to screw around with Bossa again and ughnnn I'm so bad

Dead serious I'm terrified of jazz. I always have been but I'm only okay with admitting it now. I was listening to A Love Supreme earlier and I just can't. It's loving insane. I don't even understand how that kind of musical energy and confidence comes together. Nope. No thanks. It's mystical voodoo three headed snake witchcraft sell your soul to the devil and convert your feelings into abstract antimatter forms nonsense.

I really love jazz.

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