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Polsy posted:Yeah, much like Steiner Stealth that's neither the official or literal track name, not sure where some of these are from. It's worth pointing out that there are spoilers in the soundtrack's track names so if you haven't played the game before, you probably shouldn't dig too deep there.
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Thanks, my bad
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Chocobo H&C is a lot like stealing in that it doesn't get you anything that you can't get somewhere else, though a lot of the stuff you get is really really good poo poo several leaps ahead of the game's curve. The more important thing is that upgrading your chocobo tends to get you to places a fair bit earlier than you would otherwise, too. Nothing sequence breaky, but still worth noting.
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Sep 8, 2015 10:55
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Is it actually possible to get all the treasured on the map without finding the corresponding clues?
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Sep 8, 2015 12:33
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SgCloud posted:Is it actually possible to get all the treasured on the map without finding the corresponding clues? Nope! The game won't let you dig up the treasures unless you are specifically looking for it, via use of the Chocographs.
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Sep 8, 2015 12:37
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Chocobo treasure mini spoiler: There are treasures to be found that, while not using the chocographs specifically, do require Choco with another item.
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KataraniSword posted:Chocobo H&C is a lot like stealing in that it doesn't get you anything that you can't get somewhere else, though a lot of the stuff you get is really really good poo poo several leaps ahead of the game's curve. That's not quite true, a lot of the later equipment is unique to H&C. A couple of them even teach abilities you more or less can't get anywhere else realistically.
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Yeah, Chocobo Hot and Cold is brilliant. It's fun, gives you a ton of great treasure, and Choco is the best Chocobo.KataraniSword posted:The more important thing is that upgrading your chocobo tends to get you to places a fair bit earlier than you would otherwise, too. Nothing sequence breaky, but still worth noting. Apparently in some earlier copies there's a ridiculously sequence-breaky thing that can happen. Breaks a bunch of events too.
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Sep 8, 2015 13:21
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KWEH!
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Truly the best minigame even if the precision is terrible. And I believe the stone does indeed reference FF VI Deathgaze. The same encounter design also comes up in FFX with Evrae.
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I can't get it consistently, but I've hit the eight item limit a few times. Mene will tell you to stop so that he doesn't go bankrupt and give you some kind of bonus.
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I never knew about the 8 item limit before this; never even knew that 4 got you some extra time and bonus points. I have never managed to get that many items in a single run before. 3's generally the most I could manage and even that was absurdly rare, because RNGs just outright hate me.TravelLog posted:And I believe the stone does indeed reference FF VI Deathgaze. As already mentioned, it's referring to Ozma in this game.
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Sep 8, 2015 16:12
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At a certain point, I can hit the 8-item limit consistently, and then it becomes a challenge to see how quickly I can hit the limit. You get really nice bonuses if you hit the limit with a lot of time left. It's really the only way to go for the better prizes while staying sane. CH&C is the best.
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Sep 8, 2015 17:40
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Dragonatrix posted:As already mentioned, it's referring to Ozma in this game. These are not mutually exclusive concepts.
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Sep 8, 2015 18:54
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You're both wrong. It's a reference to Altair from Bahamut Lagoon. It's a terrifying place reached through a hole in the sky.
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Sep 8, 2015 18:59
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It's clearly a reference to Penance in FFX. 
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Sep 8, 2015 19:15
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More like a reference for the upcoming cinematic experience Interstellar.
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Sep 8, 2015 21:05
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Meh. I did CH&C. I didn't like it. And yeah, I got everything. Also: It is, always has been, and always shall be, Wark!, not this Kweh! crap. 
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Sep 8, 2015 23:57
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I did Chocobo Hot and Cold as well... I don't really remember if I considered it fun in and of itself, but I did enjoy all the upgrades I got from doing it. Plus the fight with Ozma was pretty fun. Also, Vamo Alla Flamenco's pretty good, but it's not my favorite track from the game. We won't get to that one for awhile.
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Dragonatrix posted:I never knew about the 8 item limit before this; never even knew that 4 got you some extra time and bonus points. I have never managed to get that many items in a single run before. 3's generally the most I could manage and even that was absurdly rare, because RNGs just outright hate me. I didn't want to mention that because of spoilers, but yes it is both a reference and foreshadowing.
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W.T. Fits posted:I did Chocobo Hot and Cold as well... I don't really remember if I considered it fun in and of itself, but I did enjoy all the upgrades I got from doing it. Plus the fight with Ozma was pretty fun. Is it that one-time only track near the end of disc 3? You know the one. I love that one. Come to think of it, there's also another amazing one-time track near the START of disc 3. Why are the best tracks one-time only? Ah well, at least there's YouTube these days.
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Bufuman posted:Why are the best tracks one-time only? because that's what happens when you write music for situations and not just generic music to be reused later
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I think the way Ragtimer encounters work is that if you take a certain number of steps in a forest without running into a normal encounter, you get a Ragtimer encounter. Normally this would be mostly random, but as Mega alluded to there's a trick. If you lightly tap the d-pad so that Zidane doesn't do a full step animation, the random encounter check never happens, but the step counter for Ragtimer still increments. This trick can be used to force an encounter with almost 100% accuracy, although which forests you can encounter it in also depends on your plot progress. This trick is also used by speed runners.
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The trick I've seen tends to involve standing in the exact middle of a forest and moving slightly so that the next encounter triggers while you're in the exact middle. When I used that, it was more often than not the Ragtimer.
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Fister Roboto posted:I think the way Ragtimer encounters work is that if you take a certain number of steps in a forest without running into a normal encounter, you get a Ragtimer encounter. Normally this would be mostly random, but as Mega alluded to there's a trick. If you lightly tap the d-pad so that Zidane doesn't do a full step animation, the random encounter check never happens, but the step counter for Ragtimer still increments. This trick can be used to force an encounter with almost 100% accuracy, although which forests you can encounter it in also depends on your plot progress. This trick is also used by speed runners.
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Kheldarn posted:Also: It is, always has been, and always shall be, Wark!, not this Kweh! crap. It's only WARK east of the Mississippi.
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Wonderslug posted:It's only WARK east of the Mississippi. I chuckled.
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Wonderslug posted:It's only WARK east of Midgar
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If anyone here loves OCRemix or rearrangements in general, they just released a four-disc album commemorating Final Fantasy IX entitled "Worlds Apart" that I'm definitely downloading now because holy poo poo yes. Spoilers do apply however due to song titles and such so, if anyone hasn't played through the game yet you might want to not look. But if anyone likes this sort of thing then have fun! Wonderslug posted:It's only WARK east of the Mississippi.  that's pretty great, nice one.Fister Roboto posted:I think the way Ragtimer encounters work is that if you take a certain number of steps in a forest without running into a normal encounter, you get a Ragtimer encounter. Normally this would be mostly random, but as Mega alluded to there's a trick. If you lightly tap the d-pad so that Zidane doesn't do a full step animation, the random encounter check never happens, but the step counter for Ragtimer still increments. This trick can be used to force an encounter with almost 100% accuracy, although which forests you can encounter it in also depends on your plot progress. This trick is also used by speed runners. FinalGamer fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Sep 9, 2015 |
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FinalGamer posted:If anyone here loves OCRemix or rearrangements in general, they just released a four-disc album commemorating Final Fantasy IX entitled "Worlds Apart" that I'm definitely downloading now because holy poo poo yes. The moment you finish downloading it, load up the Vamo alla Flamenco remix (Vamo alla Django). It is amazing.
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FinalGamer posted:If anyone here loves OCRemix or rearrangements in general, they just released a four-disc album commemorating Final Fantasy IX entitled "Worlds Apart" that I'm definitely downloading now because holy poo poo yes. Thanks for the heads-up. Just the other day I was listening to their excellent FF6 one and wondering if they were doing any more, but didn't think to actually look on their website or try and find out in any way whatsoever. So, what a nice surprise 
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I don't like those ocremix albums because the quality is always all over the place and each track is a completely different genre so they don't flow well at all. There are a few good tracks in there but most of them are pretty standard ocremix techno or heavy metal bullshit. Also that cover art is pretty bad.
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Fister Roboto posted:I don't like those ocremix albums because the quality is always all over the place and each track is a completely different genre so they don't flow well at all. There are a few good tracks in there but most of them are pretty standard ocremix techno or heavy metal bullshit. Download, get the tracks you like, and then discard the rest?
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I don't like their version of VAF, but then I don't really care for the original anyway, especially not after listening to it for hours and hours in-game (Other wrong opinions I hold about FF music include "I don't like Matoya's Cave"). I've not found any of the 3-4 I've listened to very good so far, which is disappointing, but there is 4 hours to get through, and it shouldn't be too painful  Edit: The track I've just selected to listen to (which I suspect is one that many will jump to quickly) is hilarious. Make sure someone links back to it when we get to it in the game in a few months! Marmaduke! fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Sep 9, 2015 |
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Sep 9, 2015 18:38
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Oh hey there's a track by Erutan on there. She's pretty great.
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Fister Roboto posted:I don't like those ocremix albums because the quality is always all over the place and each track is a completely different genre so they don't flow well at all. There are a few good tracks in there but most of them are pretty standard ocremix techno or heavy metal bullshit. I had the same reaction to it. Some of them are really spot on but others are just a complete trainwreck. Steiner's and Vivi's theme are the two I noticed immediately as being really bad.
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Fister Roboto posted:I don't like those ocremix albums because the quality is always all over the place and each track is a completely different genre so they don't flow well at all. There are a few good tracks in there but most of them are pretty standard ocremix techno or heavy metal bullshit. I used to look forward to them, then the Chrono Trigger album happened. Epochs of time and delays ensued. Then they stalled more for artwork or the website or some other meaningless fluff. Then completely underwhelming dreck. Still will check this out. At least something will be worth it.
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Squalitude posted:I don't like their version of VAF, but then I don't really care for the original anyway, especially not after listening to it for hours and hours in-game (Other wrong opinions I hold about FF music include "I don't like Matoya's Cave"). Okay but you must like Battle on Big Bridge, yeah? No one can have that many wrong opinions.
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Fister Roboto posted:I don't like those ocremix albums because the quality is always all over the place and each track is a completely different genre so they don't flow well at all. There are a few good tracks in there but most of them are pretty standard ocremix techno or heavy metal bullshit. At the very least I can tell you now that Erutan has two songs she's done on there and I already love the first one to pieces.
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Squalitude posted:
OK that one's pretty good, if only for the unique take. Definitely wasn't expecting it.
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