GPU Megat[H]read - the cores of wrath grew heavy on the die that day

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Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

Did you gain anything from this? I have a buttload of extra wattage and I've bios flashed plenty in the past but haven't really looked into this gen much

I apparently rolled pretty badly on the silicon loterry, because my drivers start crashing below 1300mhz without upping the voltage, so I was very limited by the 275W max reference power limit (250W+10% slider thingy).

With a stock bios I started hitting the power limit at around 1400mhz in games. With a bios modded for 1.28V and 423W (350W+21%) I hit fairly stable 1600MHz. Sometimes it goes down to ~1550 because it starts hitting the power limit again in dumb things like 3dmark, but not in any games I tried yet, so I'm pretty happy with the final result.

I'm running it at 1300MHz and 1.2V now because no games I play warrant more than that (I was getting <60fps dips at stock clocks), but when the thing is 2 years old and I start wanting more performance, it'll be nice to know I have at least 200MHz of headroom left :v:

Don Lapre posted:

One of the top threads on /r/AMD is someone saying how happy they are their cpu is stable at stock speeds

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/3k4ukt/x_post_from_rpcmasterrace_its_stable_9590_fx/

Guy should've RMA'd it right away. I know prime95 isn't a typical load, but a chip at stock speeds should be able to run at 100% load with a stock cooler for a week and not even blink.

vvvv: Yikes.

Truga fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Sep 9, 2015

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# ? May 29, 2024 18:57

Don Lapre: Mar 28, 2001; If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Truga posted:

I apparently rolled pretty badly on the silicon loterry, because my drivers start crashing below 1300mhz without upping the voltage, so I was very limited by the 275W max reference power limit (250W+10% slider thingy).

With a stock bios I started hitting the power limit at around 1400mhz in games. With a bios modded for 1.28V and 423W (350W+21%) I hit fairly stable 1600MHz. Sometimes it goes down to ~1550 because it starts hitting the power limit again in dumb things like 3dmark, but not in any games I tried yet, so I'm pretty happy with the final result.

I'm running it at 1300MHz and 1.2V now because no games I play warrant more than that (I was getting <60fps dips at stock clocks), but when the thing is 2 years old and I start wanting more performance, it'll be nice to know I have at least 200MHz of headroom left

Guy should've RMA'd it right away. I know prime95 isn't a typical load, but a chip at stock speeds should be able to run at 100% load with a stock cooler for a week and not even blink.

The 9590 is total poo poo. It was originally OEM only because it can literally destroy your motherboard because of its power draw. And i mean only sold to big oems, not sold on amazon and newegg as an oem one.

You can buy it standalone now or with a water cooler.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 18:56

Alereon: Feb 6, 2004; Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed; College Slice

Don Lapre posted:

The 9590 is total poo poo. It was originally OEM only because it can literally destroy your motherboard because of its power draw. And i mean only sold to big oems, not sold on amazon and newegg as an oem one.

You can buy it standalone now or with a water cooler.

Fun fact, in Anandtech's testing all but the higher-end overclocking-focused AMD APU motherboards powered off or restarted under load. It doesn't happen with all CPU samples, but the normal variation for even normal production AMD CPUs exceeds the design power for AMD motherboards.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 19:28

Star War Sex Parrot: Oct 2, 2003

AMD graphics leadership shakeups

# ? Sep 9, 2015 20:17

penus penus penus: Nov 9, 2014; by piss__donald

I guess something was bound to happen after this previous year

# ? Sep 9, 2015 20:26

Don Lapre: Mar 28, 2001; If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Was the graphics division ran like blackberry before? Dual leaders?

# ? Sep 9, 2015 20:39

xthetenth: Dec 30, 2012; Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Don Lapre posted:

Was the graphics division ran like blackberry before? Dual leaders?

Looks like parts reporting to five or so different people.

# ? Sep 9, 2015 21:37

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

That new lead guy is smart af, I hope can get AMD back on track!

# ? Sep 9, 2015 23:27

SwissArmyDruid: Feb 14, 2014; by sebmojo

Truga posted:

That new lead guy is smart af, I hope can get AMD back on track!

Smart, and a silver fox. drat, some guys just get all the breaks...

# ? Sep 9, 2015 23:37

Rigged Death Trap: Feb 13, 2012; BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Smart, and a silver fox. drat, some guys just get all the breaks...

Dang sometimes Im real envious of how some men can keep a giant head of hair that's gone all white.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 00:12

japtor: Oct 28, 2005

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Smart, and a silver fox. drat, some guys just get all the breaks...

And he's rockin a nice 'stache (hell he worked at Apple too :v:

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 01:25

FraudulentEconomics: Oct 14, 2007; Pst...

B-stock gtx's available again.

Get em while they're hot.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 03:03

Wistful of Dollars: Aug 25, 2009

Moving everything to a new case and when I ran leak testing I found a leak! Let's hope poo poo still works when it dries out. :v:

# ? Sep 10, 2015 04:53

Kazinsal: Dec 13, 2011

Going back a bit: Is 4.7 GHz from an AMD processor supposed to be impressive? I could have sworn they were still stock ridiculous clocks that didn't make them any better than they would be at a lower, saner clock.

Getting 4.7 stable on my i7-3820 looks like it'd be pretty easy on AIO liquid for fucks sakes. Pretty sure it'd beat the poo poo out of a 9590 too. Maybe next year when this thing reaches its fourth year alive I'll see if I can pull 4.7 off to stall an upgrade a bit longer.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 04:58

Twerk from Home: Jan 17, 2009; This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.

Kazinsal posted:

Going back a bit: Is 4.7 GHz from an AMD processor supposed to be impressive? I could have sworn they were still stock ridiculous clocks that didn't make them any better than they would be at a lower, saner clock.

Getting 4.7 stable on my i7-3820 looks like it'd be pretty easy on AIO liquid for fucks sakes. Pretty sure it'd beat the poo poo out of a 9590 too. Maybe next year when this thing reaches its fourth year alive I'll see if I can pull 4.7 off to stall an upgrade a bit longer.

That 4.7 base, 5GHz turbo AMD chip is broadly comparable to a stock clock i5-4690 at multithreaded things and slower than a Core i3 at single threaded things.

Edit: Someone tell me I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure AMD never hit clock parity with Core 2? I know that Phenom IIs were slower at the same clock vs Core 2 Quads, and Bulldozer was a step backwards, right? So AMD has never produced anything as good per cycle on one thread as a Core 2 Duo?

Twerk from Home fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Sep 10, 2015

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:03

Kazinsal: Dec 13, 2011

Twerk from Home posted:

That 4.7 base, 5GHz turbo AMD chip is broadly comparable to a stock clock i5-4690 at multithreaded things and slower than a Core i3 at single threaded things.

Christ, AMD. I thought the whole "ha ha AMD can't make a decent CPU to save their lives" thing was kind of like a dark joke with a slightly painful undertone of hard truth, but not that deeply.

What kind of time should I let Prime95 stress test to check the max insane load temps of an OC? One hour?

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:07

Don Lapre: Mar 28, 2001; If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Kazinsal posted:

Christ, AMD. I thought the whole "ha ha AMD can't make a decent CPU to save their lives" thing was kind of like a dark joke with a slightly painful undertone of hard truth, but not that deeply.

What kind of time should I let Prime95 stress test to check the max insane load temps of an OC? One hour?

Just doing cpu? You will probably hit max temps in 10-15 minutes if not sooner. If your case is well ventilated, probably much faster as the air around the cpu wont change that much.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:18

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

Newegg I am somewhat suspicious of your claims. Mostly because I've been running happily on 450W for a while now :v:

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# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:19

Don Lapre: Mar 28, 2001; If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Panty Saluter posted:

Newegg I am somewhat suspicious of your claims. Mostly because I've been running happily on 450W for a while now

Its because 90% of the people are going to buy

Same reason gpu manufacturers give similar specs

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:21

Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Panty Saluter posted:

Newegg I am somewhat suspicious of your claims. Mostly because I've been running happily on 450W for a while now

Haha, yeah my system draws 275W at the absolute max from the wall and it is an OC'ed 970 AND i7-4790k to 4.7G. 500W would be perfect to take advantage of the efficiency maxima at 50% load.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:22

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

Don Lapre posted:

Its because 90% of the people are going to buy

Same reason gpu manufacturers give similar specs

This is my favorite thing, when they put exactly the opposite of the truth on the front.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:23

Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Don Lapre posted:

Its because 90% of the people are going to buy

Same reason gpu manufacturers give similar specs

What the gently caress is a band width regulator and what does it have to do with power delivery.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:24

Panty Saluter: Jan 17, 2004; Making learning fun!

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

What the gently caress is a band width regulator and what does it have to do with power delivery.

Well you can't have your bands changing their width of their own accord. Best to regulate them.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:26

Don Lapre: Mar 28, 2001; If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Watermelon Daiquiri posted:

What the gently caress is a band width regulator and what does it have to do with power delivery.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=324

See, this "500w" wouldn't even power your system.

Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Sep 10, 2015

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:27

Watermelon Daiquiri: Jul 10, 2010; I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.

Can't argue with that. :ms:

# ? Sep 10, 2015 05:28

SwissArmyDruid: Feb 14, 2014; by sebmojo

Don Lapre posted:

Its because 90% of the people are going to buy

Same reason gpu manufacturers give similar specs

Holy crap, the "we're trying to steal the Seasonic X-series imagery" is palpable.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 07:55

Assepoester: Jul 18, 2004; Can't post for 10 years!; Melman v2

Don Lapre posted:

Its because 90% of the people are going to buy

Same reason gpu manufacturers give similar specs

Holy crap that POS PSU is $177!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA5752CF4146

:eyepop:

Post the riciest PSUs you got

# ? Sep 10, 2015 08:23

SlayVus: Jul 10, 2009; Grimey Drawer

Ricer video cards, manah. GTX 660

# ? Sep 10, 2015 08:39

DrDork: Dec 29, 2003; commanding officer of the Army of Dorkness

Is that a video card or a spaceship? Legit can't tell.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 09:05

EmpyreanFlux: Mar 1, 2013; The AUDACITY! The IMPUDENCE! The unabated NERVE!

SlayVus posted:

Ricer video cards, manah. GTX 660

# ? Sep 10, 2015 09:11

repiv: Aug 13, 2009

Cardboard Box A posted:

Post the riciest PSUs you got

I raise you the watercooled PSU :v:

# ? Sep 10, 2015 12:28

Germstore: Oct 17, 2012; A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time

What could go wrong.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 12:31

CatHorse: Jan 5, 2008

http://anandtech.com/show/9621/the-amd-radeon-r9-nano-review

# ? Sep 10, 2015 13:47

Stanley Pain: Jun 16, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

So I guess "Fair Reviews" means no actual frame time numbers. :thumbsup:

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:20

repiv: Aug 13, 2009

Stanley Pain posted:

So I guess "Fair Reviews" means no actual frame time numbers.

Guru3D did FCAT tests: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_nano_review,1.html

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:23

xthetenth: Dec 30, 2012; Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Stanley Pain posted:

So I guess "Fair Reviews" means no actual frame time numbers.

That's the biggest downside of AT reviews. On the other side the technical discussion is usually top notch.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:26

BurritoJustice: Oct 9, 2012

The performance of a 980, the power draw of a 980, the price of a 980ti. Absolutely no over clocking headroom even with Max power limit. I'm willing to bet a 1500Mhz 970 mini would be faster for half the price.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:28

Zero VGS: Aug 16, 2002; ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE; Lipstick Apathy

Plus that's just straight-up not enough fan for 250 watts at load, it is going to be loving loud.

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:40

Stanley Pain: Jun 16, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Well those FCAT numbers look pretty good. Really, REALLY unfortunate about the price though. If it was about $100 less it would be a very competitive card.

Wonder what would happen if you slapped a AIO cooler on a NANO :q:

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:41

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# ? May 29, 2024 18:57

Don Lapre: Mar 28, 2001; If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Slower than a fury but more expensive.

I guess if you really want AMD and have one of the few SFX cases that wont fit a nvidia reference cooler or 120mm rad

Ohh wow, down to 832mhz in Farcry 4

# ? Sep 10, 2015 14:49

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