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Dr. Snark
Oct 15, 2012

I'M SORRY, OK!? I admit I've made some mistakes, and Jones has clearly paid for them.
...
But ma'am! Jones' only crime was looking at the wrong files!
...
I beg of you, don't ship away Jones, he has a wife and kids!

-United Nations Intelligence Service

The Lone Badger posted:

Go North-West, get Gregory on the field ASAP.
(And steal Thule's old fanfics from the temple ruins and read them out-loud on the radio)

This. Especially that part in parentheses.

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Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.
Northeast first. Doing so makes your life much easier when you swing back around to the northwest.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Cythereal posted:

Northeast first. Doing so makes your life much easier when you swing back around to the northwest.

Easy?

Easy?

Why would we do things the easy way? We're the Tau! We try talking, for the Greater Good's sake! In WARHAMMER 40K! If we wanted "easy", we would have just ditched this craphole when the fifth hostile army showed up. No. We're doing things the right way. That's what makes us the (Greater) good guys.

Northwest.

We need to get to those fanfics before Thule can burn them. For the Greater Good.

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
North-East, then Relic for Gregory

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





The Lone Badger posted:

Go North-West, get Gregory on the field ASAP.
(And steal Thule's old fanfics from the temple ruins and read them out-loud on the radio)

This sounds good.

Betting Thule's fanfiction is 90% friendfiction.

habituallyred
Feb 6, 2015
Northwest and Mont'ka I do not think the kroot would last long against these "assault terminators" and whatnot.

Sally
Jan 9, 2007


Don't post Small Dash!

chiasaur11 posted:

Easy?

Easy?

Why would we do things the easy way? We're the Tau! We try talking, for the Greater Good's sake! In WARHAMMER 40K! If we wanted "easy", we would have just ditched this craphole when the fifth hostile army showed up. No. We're doing things the right way. That's what makes us the (Greater) good guys.

Northwest.

We need to get to those fanfics before Thule can burn them. For the Greater Good.

Going straight for the base would be the Kroot way.


habituallyred posted:

Northwest and Mont'ka I do not think the kroot would last long against these "assault terminators" and whatnot.

Kroot proper? No. Now Kroot Hounds and Krootox? Vote Kauyon and you can watch a Krootox open one of those tin suits with their bare hands.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
I like the Kroot way of thinking here. Screw secondaries, you don't need Gregory for this and he's earned a vacation. Go straight for Thule. Oh, and Kauyon.

akulanization
Dec 21, 2013

anilEhilated posted:

I like the Kroot way of thinking here. Screw secondaries, you don't need Gregory for this and he's earned a vacation. Go straight for Thule. Oh, and Kauyon.

Drop the Hammer on Thule

Luhood
Nov 13, 2012
The Space Marines excel in having an excellent Melee and protection above others, outlast the enemy to the point where they can be smashed to a pulp or torn to shreds. Ours is to have excellent firepower and not give the enemy that option.

Hence we go with Mont'ka, and get some needed fire-power in order to tear them down from a distance. Following that we send a force to take out the Relays, weakening Thule before striking the Relic and fielding Gregory. The Kroot are excellent warriors, but I'm just not sure if this is their fight.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
We interrupt this program to bring you the latest Battlefleet Gothic trailer. Seriously, you guys need to watch this all the way through.

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness
God that looks so drat amazing I am so looking forward to that game :allears:

Emissary666
Sep 6, 2010

As awesome as Gregory is, I believe the Orbital Relay is a better target right now. Cut off their reinforcements, then have Gregory clean up the rest.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Oh, the Chaos fleet is led by that failure guy. Failabandon or whatever his name was. :effort:

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Maximise your Kroot. Kroot and Space Marines hate each other for reasons I forget.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Poil posted:

Oh, the Chaos fleet is led by that failure guy. Failabandon or whatever his name was. :effort:
I think it's "Abandon the Destroyer". Oddly fitting to that game - clearly a specialist in ship tactical retreats.

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Sep 10, 2015

Neruz
Jul 23, 2012

A paragon of manliness

Poil posted:

Oh, the Chaos fleet is led by that failure guy. Failabandon or whatever his name was. :effort:

That's fine for Battlefleet since that way we get to have his neato supership.

Hopefully said supership also has Failbaddon ranting impotently about how awesome he is as his fleet is blasted out from beneath him.

goatface posted:

Maximise your Kroot. Kroot and Space Marines hate each other for reasons I forget.

The Kroot habit of eating the corpses of their enemies makes recovering viable Gene-Seed a little tricky, this angers the Space Marine.

Theantero
Nov 6, 2011

...We danced the Mamushka while Nero fiddled, we danced the Mamushka at Waterloo. We danced the Mamushka for Jack the Ripper, and now, Fester Addams, this Mamushka is for you....
Gregory first. This is his show :colbert:

Black Balloon
Dec 28, 2008

The literal grumpiest



Northwest for Gregory and field Hammerheads.

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

I forgot to vote, get the relic and eat everything.

Neruz posted:

That's fine for Battlefleet since that way we get to have his neato supership.

Hopefully said supership also has Failbaddon ranting impotently about how awesome he is as his fleet is blasted out from beneath him.


The Kroot habit of eating the corpses of their enemies makes recovering viable Gene-Seed a little tricky, this angers the Space Marine.
That'll be worth looking at at least. But it was really disappointing we didn't get to see any ork action.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Poil posted:

That'll be worth looking at at least. But it was really disappointing we didn't get to see any ork action.

They've been nailing the aesthetic so far. Really looking forward to the Eldar ships.

If the game is good, really hoping the first race they add in via DLC or a full expansion is Tyranids.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Blind Sally posted:

Kroot proper? No. Now Kroot Hounds and Krootox? Vote Kauyon and you can watch a Krootox open one of those tin suits with their bare hands.

Kauyon and Gregory, get maximum Krootness to destroy the Space Marines.

Neruz posted:

The Kroot habit of eating the corpses of their enemies makes recovering viable Gene-Seed a little tricky, this angers the Space Marine.

So what happens to the Kroot that eat a little too much of an aberrant gene seed? Kroot Long Fangs? Kroot with the blood rage?

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Kroots with an annoying "holier than thou" attitude, I'd imagine.
Sure as hell don't envy the kroot who gets to eat Thule.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Must suck being the kroot that eats a dark eldar

40000x more potent than any known special brownie

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

CommissarMega posted:

We interrupt this program to bring you the latest Battlefleet Gothic trailer. Seriously, you guys need to watch this all the way through.

I have no idea who these devs are, but can tell just from the trailer that they're either the same people who made Nexus: The Jupiter Incident or are at least consciously imitating it, because it looks exactly like it right down to the user interface.

...which is a good thing, because that game is a forgotten gem.

Oh, also:

anilEhilated posted:

I like the Kroot way of thinking here. Screw secondaries, you don't need Gregory for this and he's earned a vacation. Go straight for Thule. Oh, and Kauyon.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

hard counter posted:

Must suck being the kroot that eats a dark eldar

40000x more potent than any known special brownie

Nah that'd be Kult of Speed Orkz.

Hunter Noventa
Apr 21, 2010

Armada looks loving gorgeous.

And I also say Kauyon and Gregory

FFKonoko
Jan 1, 2013

Olfacere violarum.
Dang, that Battlefleet Gothica, looking pretty sweet.
Does seem very human v chaos centric so far, but Eldar seem a solid bet. I do wonder about Orks though, space hulks seem like they'd be kinda odd to fit in and balance against that stuff. Especially if kept fluff accurate.

akulanization posted:

Drop the Hammer on Thule

I agree that Gregory deserves a rest, we can raze the base without him.That said, the idea of being able to get Thule to orbitally bombard himself just sounds hilarious, so popping over to do that before driving straight through his base is my vote. Futile though it may be.
Oh, and Kauyon

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Poil posted:

Oh, the Chaos fleet is led by that failure guy. Failabandon or whatever his name was. :effort:

Failbaddon bring the planetkiller as noted. Also his hilarious special rule. Whenever anyone on his fleet misses a shot, he shoots at them. This includes his own ship, which is justified as him killing the gunnery crew and telling the new one to shoot better. :allears:

I'm not sure if I remember Chaos being better at long ranges and fast though, that's kind of Eldar's thing. From what I remember of each faction in Gothic, the Imperium's ship were heavily armored, slow as poo poo and with insane broadsides, Chaos was Imperium with higher chance to fail but marks, Orks are rammy, and Eldar are the glass cannons. If you can hit them they die to a flea. If you can hit them. Their speed depends on the position of their ships to the star in system, solar wind giving them the ability to cover an entire table in one or two moves. In addition to this they have holofields which are essentially a chance to not get hit. And they could move after firing. Done right an Eldar fleet would swoop in, pick you to pieces and then swoop out of range of retaliation.

Still it looks amazing and I hope it really captures the feel of the TT and given how important movement and all the commands you can give, it sounds like it's on a good track. (I hope Imperial ships keep Come to a New Heading.)

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Eimi posted:

Failbaddon bring the planetkiller as noted. Also his hilarious special rule. Whenever anyone on his fleet misses a shot, he shoots at them. This includes his own ship, which is justified as him killing the gunnery crew and telling the new one to shoot better. :allears:

I'm not sure if I remember Chaos being better at long ranges and fast though, that's kind of Eldar's thing. From what I remember of each faction in Gothic, the Imperium's ship were heavily armored, slow as poo poo and with insane broadsides, Chaos was Imperium with higher chance to fail but marks, Orks are rammy, and Eldar are the glass cannons. If you can hit them they die to a flea. If you can hit them. Their speed depends on the position of their ships to the star in system, solar wind giving them the ability to cover an entire table in one or two moves. In addition to this they have holofields which are essentially a chance to not get hit. And they could move after firing. Done right an Eldar fleet would swoop in, pick you to pieces and then swoop out of range of retaliation.

Still it looks amazing and I hope it really captures the feel of the TT and given how important movement and all the commands you can give, it sounds like it's on a good track. (I hope Imperial ships keep Come to a New Heading.)

I want to see the Tyranids in this game assuming the game is good, just for the looks.

Much as I love the Necrons, I doubt they'd ever put in an appearance with this game. I only glanced through the free online pdfs of Battlefleet Gothic, but as I recall the Necron fleets were seemingly overpowered but with two significant catches: each one of their ships was significantly more expensive than anyone else's, and you didn't have to kill all of them to beat them as they'd automatically phase out if damaged enough and the entire fleet would vanish if they lost enough ships. Sure they could be counted on to kill more ships than they'd lose, but they also had much less to lose. That feels like a hard dynamic to put into this kind of game and keep balanced.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Cythereal posted:

I want to see the Tyranids in this game assuming the game is good, just for the looks.

Much as I love the Necrons, I doubt they'd ever put in an appearance with this game. I only glanced through the free online pdfs of Battlefleet Gothic, but as I recall the Necron fleets were seemingly overpowered but with two significant catches: each one of their ships was significantly more expensive than anyone else's, and you didn't have to kill all of them to beat them as they'd automatically phase out if damaged enough and the entire fleet would vanish if they lost enough ships. Sure they could be counted on to kill more ships than they'd lose, but they also had much less to lose. That feels like a hard dynamic to put into this kind of game and keep balanced.

Tyranids were like orcs IIRC, although instead of ramming they wanted to get close and pretend you were an anime.

OH and I forgot to mention something cool about the Eldar in Gothic. They weren't craftworld Eldar, as a. a craftworld would kick the poo poo out of anything in that game and b. craftworlds would never fight unless totally hosed. They were pirates. Space Elf Pirates. I hope they theme the Orcs as Freebootas so we have Elf vs Orc pirates.

I don't know if they have the rights to CaptainKaptin Bludflag though.

Eimi fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Sep 11, 2015

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Eimi posted:

From what I remember of each faction in Gothic, the Imperium's ship were heavily armored, slow as poo poo and with insane broadsides, Chaos was Imperium with higher chance to fail but marks, Orks are rammy, and Eldar are the glass cannons. If you can hit them they die to a flea. If you can hit them. Their speed depends on the position of their ships to the star in system, solar wind giving them the ability to cover an entire table in one or two moves. In addition to this they have holofields which are essentially a chance to not get hit. And they could move after firing. Done right an Eldar fleet would swoop in, pick you to pieces and then swoop out of range of retaliation.

That's a solid summary from what I can recall. The Imperium's big draw has traditionally been nova canons though, those get a name drop in the video. Those are powerful enough to wreck the heaviest armors but also shred a wide enough area of space that dodging or holo-field shenanigans fail too. It's anti-everything and a solid choice for beginners iirc.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
I could see 'nids and Necrons turning up in the single player campaign, even if they haven't worked out the MP balance for them yet. Rogue Trader and Tau fleets would be nice too.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

The Imperium also absolutely loves FIRE THE TORPEDOES! and their armored prows.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Night10194 posted:

The Imperium also absolutely loves FIRE THE TORPEDOES! and their armored prows.

Yeah even though I remember torpedoes being fiddly little bastards and more for area denial than anything else. Also it really complete the experience to just play like an 18th century admiral circling around to knife fight range and giving them a good broadside.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Some imperial ships go full aircraft carrier and just house swarms of fighterbombers ontop of a few token cannons or mine layers.

If Kroot are in as a proxy of tau their war sphere ships would be outrageous.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


hard counter posted:

Some imperial ships go full aircraft carrier and just house swarms of fighterbombers ontop of a few token cannons or mine layers.

If Kroot are in as a proxy of tau their war sphere ships would be outrageous.

Fighters are also essential as they are your defense against torpedoes beyond not being where they are. And because this is Warhammer, some of those torpedoes are likely larger than the fighters themselves. Also the fighters are huge. The Tau fighter (the manta) in particular is very infamous because of the fact that it's a real model you can use on the TT and the fact that its like 960 pounds.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





Eimi posted:

Fighters are also essential as they are your defense against torpedoes beyond not being where they are. And because this is Warhammer, some of those torpedoes are likely larger than the fighters themselves. Also the fighters are huge. The Tau fighter (the manta) in particular is very infamous because of the fact that it's a real model you can use on the TT and the fact that its like 960 pounds.

Pounds as in money, not weight right :v:

BlazetheInferno
Jun 6, 2015
Gregory must Rise! Demoralize the Space Marines and bring out a T-Rex on their asses!

And then Gregory can help Thule bombard himself.

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Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


hard counter posted:

Pounds as in money, not weight right :v:

Yeah money. It's insanely expensive, also insanely overpowered. :v: GW at its finest.

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