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XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
Madeira?

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Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

XMNN posted:

Madeira?

That sounds about right, thanks.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH

josh04 posted:

It's someone who depends on their position to avoid being humiliated in this way, who has no incentive whatsoever to stop otherwise. It's not a crime to send creepy messages, but it's also not the job of the people receiving them to protect the people sending them.

I'm not sure I'm parsing this correctly, what do you mean "it's someone who depends on their position to avoid being humiliated in this way"?

If you mean he thinks he can get away with this sort of thing because he's senior then I don't think we have evidence for that - she said that most of the messages she got of this nature were not from senior people, and that it was because he was so senior (old?) that she found this one particularly annoying. Again it's worth pointing out there was no actual working relationship between them, existing or tentative. The man seems foolish and naive and I don't think he deserved the outright public savaging she gave him.

josh04 posted:

Only if you concede that this has made the situation worse, which I don't. I think it's hard to argue that this won't reduce the number of high-up legal figures willing to chance themselves being creepy on LinkedIn.

Yes, I think there might be a net social benefit from this mini-scandal if some men think twice before sending messages like that but I don't think she's done herself any favours. I don't think it was the content of the message that was so galling but rather the fact that this sort of message was a regular occurrence. She handled this badly.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
That's Sadiq Khan for mayoral candidate now. How Correct is he again, I've not been following this

Phoon
Apr 23, 2010

Khaaaaaaan

E: he seems alright from what I've seen

OvineYeast
Jul 16, 2007

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden

Angepain posted:

That's Sadiq Khan for mayoral candidate now. How Correct is he again, I've not been following this

moderately Correct

(nominated Corbyn, but didn't actually back him.)

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
Is it just me being a typical hysterical leftie or is the concept behind this article pretty awful?

quote:

Houses are getting smaller and many young people are forced to share with others. Submariners know some practical and psychological tricks for living in cramped spaces, writes Sonia Rothwell.
Instead of making any effort towards securing adequate, affordable living space for people, we just give them tips from submariners to live in disgustingly confined and overcrowded spaces lol. I mean, I would have much preferred another article decrying the foul state of housing in the UK over this.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Renaissance Robot posted:

Same. What's that amber coloured Portuguese desert wine called? I can never remember but it tastes incredible and nowhere here sells it.

Where's 'here'? I know Waitrose sell it where I live...

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

feedmegin posted:

I know Waitrose sell it

And how would you know that, Comrade?

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Oberleutnant posted:

And how would you know that, Comrade?

well he can taste it in the blood of its customers as it splashes off of the wall obviously what did you think he meant

e: dear cops this is a joke fyi yours sincerely angepain

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Oberleutnant posted:

And how would you know that, Comrade?

Agreed, leftists should only shop at supermarkets run by a workers' cooperati-WAIT A SECOND

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
76.5% voter turnout in london, pretty good that

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



Waitrose is cool and good, especially if you go right before closing time. You can get good food at cheap prices.
I also go to M&S just before closing time and buy stuff that's going out of date. It's still not the cheapest but it's quality food and you can stick it in the freezer. There's always something good to get because I don't think posh people ever buy stuff that's almost out of date.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

MrL_JaKiri posted:

Agreed, leftists should only shop at supermarkets run by a workers' cooperati-WAIT A SECOND

Oh wow, I didn't actually know that. Waitrose was always "that expensive shop we can't afford to shop at" when I were a lad. Netto and Kwik Save for us.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
The London result is very encouraging for tomorrow!

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Jose posted:

76.5% voter turnout in london, pretty good that

That's pretty positive after a the hand-wringing about lack of turnout in the last week.

Pork Pie Hat
Apr 27, 2011
I hope he wins, because the tears of racist dickheads sad about having a :airquote:Muslim:airquote: son of immigrants mayor of London will be ever so sweet.

Airquotes because I don't know if he actually is a Muslim, but it's totally what the wingnuts will claim.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!

Lord of the Llamas posted:

The London result is very encouraging for tomorrow!

With a £10 free bet on each of Burnham and Cooper, it is I who is the self-involved capitalist who doesn't care about his fellow man

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Oberleutnant posted:

Instead of making any effort towards securing adequate, affordable living space for people, we just give them tips from submariners to live in disgustingly confined and overcrowded spaces lol. I mean, I would have much preferred another article decrying the foul state of housing in the UK over this.
When my house can travel undetected beneath the seas, harass navy vessels, and smuggle things from Latin America, I will start taking their advice on board. Among all the other things I will take on board.

Pasco
Oct 2, 2010

Pretty pleased with the Kahn win. Definitely augurs for a Corbyn landslide tomorrow.

Pork Pie Hat posted:

I hope he wins, because the tears of racist dickheads sad about having a :airquote:Muslim:airquote: son of immigrants mayor of London will be ever so sweet.

Airquotes because I don't know if he actually is a Muslim, but it's totally what the wingnuts will claim.

He is a Muslim, and one of the good ones at that (former Human Rights lawyer, voted for Same Sex Marriage, etc). So yes, he's going to get shat on by right-winguts from all angles.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Oberleutnant posted:

Is it just me being a typical hysterical leftie or is the concept behind this article pretty awful?

Instead of making any effort towards securing adequate, affordable living space for people, we just give them tips from submariners to live in disgustingly confined and overcrowded spaces lol. I mean, I would have much preferred another article decrying the foul state of housing in the UK over this.
It's basically "lol suck it up young people did you ever think about hotbunking? Welp I'll be over here Getting On™ if you need any more pearls of wisdom :smug:"

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Guavanaut posted:

When my house can travel undetected beneath the seas, harass navy vessels, and smuggle things from Latin America, I will start taking their advice on board. Among all the other things I will take on board.

Or, most importantly, carry nuclear warheads.

I am willing to enforce Castle doctrine with MAD.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Pork Pie Hat posted:

I hope he wins, because the tears of racist dickheads sad about having a :airquote:Muslim:airquote: son of immigrants mayor of London will be ever so sweet.

Airquotes because I don't know if he actually is a Muslim, but it's totally what the wingnuts will claim.

He is a Muslim, yeah. First Muslim to have attended a meeting of the Cabinet apparently.

I don't think he's exactly Jezza Corbae but considering it was always going to go down to a fight between him & Tessa Jowell, he was by far the better option. For starters he's recognised publicly that austerity is a load of ideological bollocks and that Labour excepting it just gives Tories free reign to go mad. And that's probably the biggest thing that needs to change from Labour's approach in this parliament.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Zephro posted:

It's basically "lol suck it up young people did you ever think about hotbunking? Welp I'll be over here Getting On™ if you need any more pearls of wisdom :smug:"
That's not fair, he does offer some useful tips applicable to young people in small houses, like "store your beer in one of the many missile tubes around the house."

Hijo Del Helmsley posted:

Or, most importantly, carry nuclear warheads.

I am willing to enforce Castle doctrine with MAD.
Corbyn will disarm the submarines. IDS will use the empty tubes to house jobseekers.

FairyNuff
Jan 22, 2012

I'm sure this will turn out well for vulnerable children.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/sep/11/david-cameron-promises-fresh-shakeup-of-public-services

quote:

David Cameron promises fresh shakeup of public services

David Cameron will herald new moves to open up public services to private providers when he hails the role of “insurgent companies” and speaks of the benefit of “breaking state monopolies”.

In a speech outlining the government’s approach to the autumn spending review, in which George Osborne will outline £20bn of cuts, the prime minister will cite children in care services and prisons as “standout areas” for reform.

The prime minister will say that government is not unlike a business. He will stress that he is not seeking to turn Whitehall into a business, but will say there is a need to reform public services: “What energises many markets are new insurgent companies, who break monopolies and bring in new ways of doing things. We can apply this thinking to government.

“So many of our country’s efforts to extend opportunity have been undermined by a tolerance of state failure. Children in care and prisons being two standout areas. Reform – be it breaking state monopolies, bringing in new providers or allowing new ways of doing things – can cut the costs of these failures both economically and socially and help advance the progressive causes of spreading opportunity and enhancing social mobility that we should all care about.”

The prime minister’s speech, on the eve of the announcement of the next Labour leader, comes amid intense preparations in Downing Street for the election of Jeremy Corbyn. Cameron will tell his audience in the north of England that Labour poses a “clear threat to the financial security of every family in Britain” – remarks aimed at Corbyn, although the prime minister stops short of predicting a winner.

Osborne indicated over the weekend that the Tories would not seek to gloat at a Corbyn victory in the face of widespread fears in the Labour party that it would mark a dangerous move to the left. The chancellor said the Tories would regard a Corbyn victory as a moment to act responsibly by seeking to champion working people.

Cameron will make clear that he believes a Corbyn victory creates space for him to fashion what he calls the “smarter state” as he says that the government will seek to open up government contracts. The chancellor will outline details in the autumn statement about how he will cut government spending by £20bn as part of a £37bn fiscal consolidation designed to eliminate budget deficit and to allow him to run a budget surplus by the time of the next election.

Cameron will make clear that the government needs to go further in opening up public services to achieve better value for money when he says: “Businesses are always looking at ways to streamline their functions so they can become more effective. I would argue it’s an imperative – a moral imperative – for government to do the same. When money is tight, it’s simply unforgiveable to waste taxpayers’ money.

“More than that, efficient government can actually help with our progressive goals. Opening up contracts to small businesses spreads entrepreneurship and drives innovation. Closing down government offices and releasing government land can help build more homes and spread home ownership. Indeed, across the spectrum, there are opportunities for us to make a difference not just to people’s pockets but to people’s lives. For example, I believe the creation of the Government Digital Service is one of the great unsung triumphs of the last parliament.”

The prime minister will show he is prepared to embark on controversial reforms when he pledges to introduce legislation to allow the three emergency services – fire, police and ambulance services – to combine back office functions and IT.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Pasco posted:

He is a Muslim, and one of the good ones at that

We're not national socialists we don't have to say this to assure us he's not Anjem Choudhary 2: Electric Ummahloo

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009


Oh the government is not unlike a business? So it can easily have interesting bearing debt while running a healthy balance, right.

I thought the government was like a house?

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

You have got to be fu-

no. I can't eve sustain my disbelief long enough to type that post.
Of course. Of course.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

quote:

“Businesses are always looking at ways to streamline their functions so they can become more effective. I would argue it’s an imperative – a moral imperative – for government to do the same. When money is tight, it’s simply unforgiveable to waste taxpayers’ money.
Surely that should be more profitable, rather than "effective"? loving wanker.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Did anyone else get a call from the Corbyn campaign inviting them for a victory march alongside Corbs to the results from St Anne's Gate tomorrow?

They sound confident.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Tesseraction posted:

Oh the government is not unlike a business? So it can easily have interesting bearing debt while running a healthy balance, right.

I thought the government was like a house?
And a house is like a submarine.

In conclusion, more Tridents.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Guavanaut posted:

And a house is like a submarine.

In conclusion, more Tridents.
A nuclear armed society is a polite society, but it doesn't have much living space.

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

Mr. Flunchy posted:

Did anyone else get a call from the Corbyn campaign inviting them for a victory march alongside Corbs to the results from St Anne's Gate tomorrow?

They sound confident.

Presumably this would be a London specific call out? I mean, I'd love to go but I'm going to the Blackburn Heritage Not HateDay.

OvineYeast
Jul 16, 2007

Freiheit ist immer Freiheit der Andersdenkenden
So I was trying to work out when we last had a Labour leader as left-wing as Corbyn and I think it's 1935 -- George Lansbury, who ironically was also responsible for the newspaper that would become The Sun.

Ziggy Tzardust
Apr 7, 2006
Jesus. The Khan victory wasn't even close. It came down to Khan/Jowell on the final round of voting and that ended up as 59/41. Massive blow for the Blairites.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OvineYeast posted:

So I was trying to work out when we last had a Labour leader as left-wing as Corbyn and I think it's 1935 -- George Lansbury, who ironically was also responsible for the newspaper that would become The Sun.
Calling it now, Corbyn will start a well meaning newsletter about socialism and jam making which by 2095 will have evolved to be a floating energy pane of bad journalism called The Wank that spins around vomiting awful opinions over everyone and is banned from Liverpool.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

So, how is it going to go with Khan against BoJo, and what implications will that have for the Conservative leadership struggle post-Cameron?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

OvineYeast posted:

So I was trying to work out when we last had a Labour leader as left-wing as Corbyn and I think it's 1935 -- George Lansbury, who ironically was also responsible for the newspaper that would become The Sun.
Michael Foot? A lot of Corbyn's programme is fairly bog-standard post-WW2 social democracy, of the sort still practised in Europe. Nationalise the railways, a state investment bank, rent controls. The most eye-catching lefty stuff is unilateral disarmament and a maximum salary, but the former isn't exactly unheard of (it's SNP policy too) and the latter has been kicking around various left-wing parties for a while. He's definitely a lot further left than almost anyone else with any profile in British politics today. But all this stuff about how he's Vladimir Leon Josef Marx the Undead is mostly a reflection of how far right the "centre ground" has shifted in the past 30 years.

Andre Le Fuckface
Oct 4, 2008

:pwm:

V. Illych L. posted:

So, how is it going to go with Khan against BoJo, and what implications will that have for the Conservative leadership struggle post-Cameron?

It will be Khan against Zac Goldsmith

lol:

Zac Goldsmith has said he fears he will come across as a “mother’s boy” after Lady Annabel Goldsmith – his mother – donated £50,000 to support his campaign to become London mayor.

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V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Andre Le Fuckface posted:

It will be Khan against Zac Goldsmith

lol:

Zac Goldsmith has said he fears he will come across as a “mother’s boy” after Lady Annabel Goldsmith – his mother – donated £50,000 to support his campaign to become London mayor.

ah shameful of me to forget. is goldsmith in any way impressive?

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