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Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
Obviously Hisako is gonna save the day here by saying the open table was for Soma.

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BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
Was the implication that Erina thinks of Soma's dad as her actual father?

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
No. Who she aims to be like when she's cooking, maybe. It's just trying to show that Erina's dad is an elitist dickhead and that Erina is terrified of him.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

paragon1 posted:

No. Who she aims to be like when she's cooking, maybe. It's just trying to show that Erina's dad is an elitist dickhead and that Erina is terrified of him.

I think its just to make Erina seem like less of a dickhead herself because even she hasn't gone with the batshit "you're not good enough to eat my food even if you can afford it" crap.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Angry Grimace posted:

I think its just to make Erina seem like less of a dickhead herself because even she hasn't gone with the batshit "you're not good enough to eat my food even if you can afford it" crap.

I'd say the author is trying to do 2 things here. Introduce us to our next (series?) arch-villain, and, yes, cast Erina into a better light.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

paragon1 posted:

I'd say the author is trying to do 2 things here. Introduce us to our next (series?) arch-villain, and, yes, cast Erina into a better light.

I'm gonna venture a guess that she'd be jealous of Soma's family situation.

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes

Angry Grimace posted:

I'm gonna venture a guess that she'd be jealous of Soma's family situation.

Speaking of that, I've been mulling it over, and I've come to the conclusion that Jouichirou is one of the best dads I've seen in a manga. Dude kept raising Souma after his wife died, didn't pressure him into following in his footsteps (Souma decided to be a cook and surpass his dad on his own), and when Souma was dead-set on becoming a cook, taught him. Then, when Souma is old enough in his eyes, he appeals to Souma's inherent competitiveness by challenging him to succeed at Tootsuki, then visits to see how he's progressed-- and when he wins their match, lightly teases him in way that doesn't feel antagonistic. It's clear that he and Souma are on very good terms with each other, which I feel is something that rarely happens with these sorts of characters.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

paragon1 posted:

I'd say the author is trying to do 2 things here. Introduce us to our next (series?) arch-villain, and, yes, cast Erina into a better light.

Has the series even had an 'arch-villain' before this? Most opponents have just been rivals rather than actual villains, other than like that Karaage company, and Subaru for a match. Azami looks like he's going to be the first long-standing villain in the series.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

SyntheticPolygon posted:

Has the series even had an 'arch-villain' before this? Most opponents have just been rivals rather than actual villains, other than like that Karaage company, and Subaru for a match. Azami looks like he's going to be the first long-standing villain in the series.

Every single character is secretly good deep down so far, actually. Even Eizan is a rival to Soma, but didn't outright cheat in the elections - Soma bet his career on the shokugeki with Subaru on his own.

Davincie
Jul 7, 2008

BearDrivingTruck posted:

Speaking of that, I've been mulling it over, and I've come to the conclusion that Jouichirou is one of the best dads I've seen in a manga. Dude kept raising Souma after his wife died, didn't pressure him into following in his footsteps (Souma decided to be a cook and surpass his dad on his own), and when Souma was dead-set on becoming a cook, taught him. Then, when Souma is old enough in his eyes, he appeals to Souma's inherent competitiveness by challenging him to succeed at Tootsuki, then visits to see how he's progressed-- and when he wins their match, lightly teases him in way that doesn't feel antagonistic. It's clear that he and Souma are on very good terms with each other, which I feel is something that rarely happens with these sorts of characters.

read some dad manga dude, good (and hot) dads is an entire field of manga

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Angry Grimace posted:

Every single character is secretly good deep down so far, actually. Even Eizan is a rival to Soma, but didn't outright cheat in the elections - Soma bet his career on the shokugeki with Subaru on his own.

I know but Subaru wasn't really presented as a rival during the match, it was only afterwards. In the lead-up the dude was just a villain who targeted cooks and stole their knives for no real reason. Unlike all the other top 8's Subaru was just a bad guy. That's changed of course, but he was definitely a villain in his first two matches. And Eizen did intentionally manipulate the press to insult Soma just out of spite really. I wouldn't say he's evil or anything but he's more of a bad dude than most. The difference between them as villains and Azami is that I doubt he's going to turn out to be an alright dude in the end.

Also, that insurance lady or whatever in chapter 1 was totally just a bad guy and not good deep down. Some with the boss of that Karaage place. :colbert:

BearDrivingTruck
Oct 15, 2011

You see the most shocking sights sometimes

Davincie posted:

read some dad manga dude, good (and hot) dads is an entire field of manga

I forgot to say "best dads I've seen in a shonen manga"

Compendium
Jun 18, 2013

M-E-J-E-D
Souma's dad is very drat fine.

Folt The Bolt
Feb 21, 2012

Nothing exciting to see here. Move along.
As for bad dudes (and dudettes), the only ones I can think of is the insurance lady, the karaage snake lady, Eizan, Subaru (up until after his match with Soma), and Azami.

Insurance lady and karaage snake lady are pretty much bad dudettes all around, though I wouldn't call them evil. Just smug jerkfaces.

Eizan is definitely a bad dude, but is not necessarily evil. Very prideful though, to the point that a fast food shop he's consulting doesn't expand under his watch (even if it's owner is waaaay too smug to actually listen to him when she really needs to) is regarded by him as a stain on his career, to the point that he'll take it out on the opposing party (if he can't convince them to join him). Unlike the above two though, he doesn't mess around: His plan is devious, and most importantly, he doesn't need to outright cheat in order to execute it. (It still didn't go according to plan since Soma is Soma, but Eizan hides his tracks well enough.)

Subaru... well, I don't think I need to justify that he was a bad dude before Soma beat him. Again, like Eizan, not necessarily evil, just a massive dick (before his defeat).

Azami... seems to be built up to be the opposite of Jouichiro, so yeah; definitely a bad dude. It's also very likely that he'll actually be evil, given that Erina goes into PTSD when she sees him. I'm starting to think that Eri's attitude towards cooking is as much his fault as the enviroment she grew up in (but also that with Senzaemon taking over as a legal guardian, and Jouichiro having an influence on her, she avoided becoming a carbon copy of her real dad).

OneDeadman
Oct 16, 2010

[SUPERBIA]
Erina's dad probably hangs out with the principal from Assassination Classroom discussing their :smug:

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
Considering his rep and philosophy of food as high art I kinda wonder if the dude tries to go all absurd avant-garde on the food by using sub-par quality ingredients or bad procedures or such.
(If someone gets sick it's their drat fault for being philistines ofc)

blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

Kyte posted:

Considering his rep and philosophy of food as high art I kinda wonder if the dude tries to go all absurd avant-garde on the food by using sub-par quality ingredients or bad procedures or such.
(If someone gets sick it's their drat fault for being philistines ofc)

That would be interesting cause Soma's dad does a similar thing with 'mundane' ingredients, but whereas Erina's dad makes his food super exclusive, Soma's dad makes his accessible to anyone.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Kyte posted:

Considering his rep and philosophy of food as high art I kinda wonder if the dude tries to go all absurd avant-garde on the food by using sub-par quality ingredients or bad procedures or such.
(If someone gets sick it's their drat fault for being philistines ofc)

I'm hoping he doesn't stick around too much because even in this manga his motivation is truly absurd.

"No one is allowed to eat my food except ??? (I don't even know how he figures out who's good enough)" makes basically no sense. Like, he just told the founder of the top no-expenses-spared Gastronomy club in Japan he wasn't good enough to eat Erina's food. Like, what in the actual gently caress?

Kyte
Nov 19, 2013

Never quacked for this
He's an artiste. :v:

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe
There's always the possibility that Erina's dad doesn't actually believe the poo poo he's saying and is just loving with everyone to provoke a reaction. I doubt we'll really get what's really up with him until we get into his backstory proper.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Alacron posted:

There's always the possibility that Erina's dad doesn't actually believe the poo poo he's saying and is just loving with everyone to provoke a reaction. I doubt we'll really get what's really up with him until we get into his backstory proper.

Which probably isn't now. We'll just find out he's a villain supercook who hates poor people.

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Sep 6, 2015

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Alacron posted:

There's always the possibility that Erina's dad doesn't actually believe the poo poo he's saying and is just loving with everyone to provoke a reaction. I doubt we'll really get what's really up with him until we get into his backstory proper.

It's pretty believable since what he says is just a more extreme version of what erina thinks.

Erina : Only rich, elite people get to cook good food
Erina's Dad: Only (Some arbitrary class here) gets to eat good food

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Not sure how this is supposed to make anyone like Erina more. It's most of a, "Well okay, that's where she gets it from I guess."

Since the dude's not her guardian anymore you'd think she'd eschew her dad's views in kind of a "gently caress you, dad!" way rather than take on a lighter form of them.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

Fabricated posted:

Not sure how this is supposed to make anyone like Erina more. It's most of a, "Well okay, that's where she gets it from I guess."

Since the dude's not her guardian anymore you'd think she'd eschew her dad's views in kind of a "gently caress you, dad!" way rather than take on a lighter form of them.

you don't really tend to let go of things you learned as a kid as easily as shaking it off

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Her Dad got into her head before he left and his evil cooking ideals continue to influence her despite her fear of him. Like most things to do with Erina it will probably be boring and bad.

And to be honest, Erina's whole "low-class people are bad cooks" hasn't been a thing since like the cooking camp. And was only ever really expressed at Soma who she hates for other completely silly reasons.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
My question is: how did he get inside the school? Shouldn't the security guards have caught him?

Eddain
May 6, 2007

Mraagvpeine posted:

My question is: how did he get inside the school? Shouldn't the security guards have caught him?

He challenged the guards to a shokugeki and they lost their lives to the Shadow Realm.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
Spoiler time!

The Azami/Soma confrontation goes nowhere, he just leaves and gives Erina poo poo for having low-class friends. Then Azami and Senzubean have a talk and Azami reveals that he got a majority vote of the Elite 10 (all of the third years plus Eizan) to fire Senzubean and install himself as the new Director of Totsuki.

Cat-girl is apparently evil

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
Holy poo poo. :aaaaa:

KoB
May 1, 2009

Angry Grimace posted:

Spoiler time!

The Azami/Soma confrontation goes nowhere, he just leaves and gives Erina poo poo for having low-class friends. Then Azami and Senzubean have a talk and Azami reveals that he got a majority vote of the Elite 10 (all of the third years plus Eizan) to fire Senzubean and install himself as the new Director of Totsuki.

hahah why would they have the power to do that. Thats so dumb.

tobeannouncd
Oct 2, 2011

The tiger took my family
New episode of the anime is out for Crunchyroll subscribers. Only one more episode left for the season, so they're probably going to conclude the preliminary round of the Autumn election.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

KoB posted:

hahah why would they have the power to do that. Thats so dumb.

Because they have the power to do literally anything, they already established that.

I don't know that its final yet, there may be some kind of vote or shokugeki to sway votes, etc.

snivell
Sep 9, 2015

watch out, my posts are pretty damn edgy
best food porn anime

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


snivell posted:

best food porn anime

That about sums it up, goddamn what a great episode. Almost too many delicious looking foods and highlights for the whole B team! I'm so sad this is ending next week, it really snuck up on me. :( I hope it's only a short break before the next one, I need more food battles in my life.

EDIT: Also why is Chinese Cooking Girl (Hojo?) so prevalent in the opening if she doesn't even make it through the prelims?

Cipher Pol 9 fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Sep 11, 2015

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

EDIT: Also why is Chinese Cooking Girl (Hojo?) so prevalent in the opening if she doesn't even make it through the prelims?

She's Megumi's rival during the prelims. So she's got some significance as part of that. It helps keep Megumi more important by having her defeat an opponent that was sort of built up as a decently big deal.

Same how Sadatsuka shows up a lot (especially in the ending) because she was Hisako's opponent, and by directly defeating her it builds Hisako up more.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

EDIT: Also why is Chinese Cooking Girl (Hojo?) so prevalent in the opening if she doesn't even make it through the prelims?

Because even though girls can't cook as well as men can, they have breasts.

Soylentbits
Apr 2, 2007

im worried that theyre setting her up to be jotaros future wife or something.

Clarste posted:

Because even though girls can't cook as well as men can, they have breasts.

That's sexist. Men can have breasts too.

KoB
May 1, 2009
Also those chinese dresses are hot.

Inflammatory
Apr 22, 2014

KoB posted:

hahah why would they have the power to do that. Thats so dumb.

anime student councils are always portrayed as being more powerful than actual faculty for some reason.

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vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

Inflammatory posted:

anime student councils are always portrayed as being more powerful than actual faculty for some reason.

Because the alternative is Tari Tari, where the students are powerless and their school gets razed to make way for condos. I don't know if anyone wants that.

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