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Joementum posted:Quote of the night, "You want to get rid of money in politics? Join my campaign - we have no money!" ~ Lindsey Graham Mister Macys posted:Why is he still running? Serious question. As I understand it, Lindsey Graham hates what some of the candidates *coughcoughTrumpcough* are doing to the Republican Party, and he's running so that he will be on record as standing in opposition. He'll run for as long as he can, no matter how few votes he gets. It's a campaign based, at this point, on spite. Which, personally, I kinda love.
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HalPhilipWalker posted:Hillary is a dead candidate walking. wrap it up clintonailures
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Sep 13, 2015 16:09
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Brannock posted:10 years from now we're going to look back on this era and wonder how the hell we didn't predict the first Twitter President. To be fair, there's a thread over here that's been predicting the first social media president for several months now: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3717961
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Sep 13, 2015 16:19
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Did you literally just start paying attention to politics this year? 
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HalPhilipWalker posted:Hillary is a dead candidate walking. Politics isn't the World Cup you dumb motherfucker, you don't just suddenly start paying attention every four years.
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NotWearingPants posted:To be fair, there's a thread over here that's been predicting the first social media president for several months now: tbh I was expecting Eripsa thread 
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Sep 13, 2015 16:24
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The whole "email scandal will destroy Clinton" thing is obvious chum in the water, but I'd like to point out that Hillary has been a big deal politically since before she married Bill. quote:“I was disappointed when they married,” admits Betsey Wright, who had met the dating couple when they came to her home state of Texas to work for the McGovern campaign in 1972. “She has been absolutely critical to Bill’s success but, then, I had images in my mind that she could be the first woman president.” One of her first big plays on the political stage: quote:But the dynamic duo made a lasting impression on one of the judges, John Doar, a hero of the civil-rights movement. Six months after they graduated, Doar was shopping for crack young lawyers to staff the House Judiciary Committee inquiry that would prepare the impeachment case against President Richard Nixon. Bill excused himself; he was already geared up for his 1974 congressional race. But what about Hillary? “If he hadn’t suggested her, I would have called her anyway,” says Doar. http://www.vanityfair.com/news/1992/05/hillary-clinton-first-lady-presidency e: Then again, it was a different world: quote:In 1978 the Clintons swept into the governor’s office with the promise of youth and purity. “Arrogant” was the outcry of the Establishment, and the governor’s spouse became the lightning rod for people’s resentment. Okay only the first half changed, but still. Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Sep 13, 2015 16:32
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Bernie Sanders will be speaking at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University tomrorow. Cruz, Perry, Walker and Trump have spoken there. As far as I know, a non-republican politician has never spoken at the University or a convocation. Carson is going to speak there on November 11
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Are you ready for your Sunday morning poll dump? First up, from the LA Times, what might be the first California poll we've seen all cycle. GOP side: Trump 24 Carson 18 Bush 6 Cruz 6 Rubio 5 Fiorina 5 Walker, Kasich, Paul, Huckabee 2 Christie, Perry, Santorum 1 Dem side: Clinton 39 Sanders 23 Biden 11 You'd assume CA to be a pretty Clinton-friendly state, so this is pretty striking. Also obligatory laughter at Bush and Walker. Anyway, now time for the main feature: CBS/Yougov Battleground Tracker polls of IA, NH, and SC. Now, these aren't great polls (6% margin of error is a warning sign right from the get go), but they send a pretty interesting message. These are all likely voters polls. Iowa Dems: Sanders 43 Clinton 33 Biden 10 O'Malley 5 Chafee and Webb 1 (Holy poo poo Iowa I am skeptical as gently caress of these results but wow) Iowa GOP: Trump 29 Carson 25 Cruz 10 Rubio 6 Walker 5 Fiorina and Huckabee 4 Jeb! and Santorum 3 Kasich Paul and Jindal 2 Gilmore (!) and Christie 1 Perry (RIP), Graham, and Pataki 0 There are some days when it isn't worth getting out of bed if your name is Jeb! Bush. This is one of them. NH Dems: Sanders 52 Clinton 30 Biden 9 O'Malley 1 Webb and Chafee 0 NH GOP: Trump 40(!) Carson 12 Kasich 9 Fiorina 8 Paul and Jeb! 6 Cruz 5 Walker 3 Christie and Rubio 2 Huckabee and Perry 1 Jindal, Graham, Santorum, Gilmore, and Pataki 0 This one is pretty impressive for both Sanders and Trump. SC Dems: Clinton 46 Sanders 23 Biden 22 Webb 1 O'Malley and Chafee 0 SC GOP: Trump 36 Carson 21 Cruz 6 Jeb! and Sitting South Carolina Senator Lindsey Graham 5 Kasich 4 Fiorina, Rubio, Huckabee, and Walker 3 Christie 2 Santorum, Jindal, and Paul 1 Gilmore, Perry, and Pataki 0 Enjoy.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Bernie Sanders will be speaking at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University tomrorow. it's_a_trap.jpg e: Ted Kennedy spoke there in the 80s I believe TROIKA CURES GREEK fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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Sep 13, 2015 16:38
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TROIKA CURES GREEK posted:it's_a_trap.jpg for them! 
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Patter Song posted:Are you ready for your Sunday morning poll dump? 
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Bernie Sanders will be speaking at Jerry Falwell's Liberty University tomrorow. This is a huge loving deal. Consider the history behind Liberty, Falwell, and the Moral Majority for a second. Cruz kicked off his candidacy there, Jindal gave the commencement last year, and of course, Saint Reagan. It's not the first time a Democrat has spoken there as the article says, VA Gov. McAuliffe, Ted Kennedy, and Jesse Jackson have been there. It would make Jerry Falwell spin in his grave to know that an avowed socialist is speaking there. That warms my heart.
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Sep 13, 2015 16:59
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I don't really understand how Carson came to be #2. It doesn't seem like he's done anything much at all except be a bad speaker. Sure maybe he's getting the largest share of the "not Trump" vote right now, but why him as opposed to other fire breathing religious wingnuts like Santorum, Perry (RIP) or the Huck?
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Sep 13, 2015 17:07
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Zwabu posted:I don't really understand how Carson came to be #2. It doesn't seem like he's done anything much at all except be a bad speaker. Sure maybe he's getting the largest share of the "not Trump" vote right now, but why him as opposed to other fire breathing religious wingnuts like Santorum, Perry (RIP) or the Huck? He seems like a nice man. Not all republican voters are horrible monsters.
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RBC posted:wrap it up clintonailures No, guys, listen, this GOP manufactured Clinton scandal is totally going to be the one that takes them down! This time she may have possibly technically done something illegal maybe! I can feel it! Zwabu posted:I don't really understand how Carson came to be #2. It doesn't seem like he's done anything much at all except be a bad speaker. Sure maybe he's getting the largest share of the "not Trump" vote right now, but why him as opposed to other fire breathing religious wingnuts like Santorum, Perry (RIP) or the Huck? He comes across as the most sincere in his religious convictions and he's not a career politician in a cycle that's rejecting those figures.
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Sep 13, 2015 17:10
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Good Citizen posted:No, guys, listen, this GOP manufactured Clinton scandal is totally going to be the one that takes them down! This time she may have possibly technically done something illegal maybe! I can feel it! I think it's going to be next one. Like another Patriots cheating scandal, we don't know what's it going to be yet, only that it's inevitable.
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Sep 13, 2015 17:13
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NotWearingPants posted:I think it's going to be next one. But, much like the patriots, she'll come through the other side largely unscathed and stomping much of the league.
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Sep 13, 2015 17:14
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NotWearingPants posted:He seems like a nice man. Also worth considering that within right wing activist circles Ben Carson has been famous for a long time. Arguably since Gifted Hands (the Ben Carson biopic starring Cuba Gooding Jr. as Ben Carson) came out in 2009, but especially since he criticized Obama to his face at the 2013 Prayer Breakfast and suddenly became a regular commentator on all the right wing media. Ben Carson has been in their sights for quite some time.
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Teddybear posted:But, much like the patriots, she'll come through the other side largely unscathed and stomping much of the league. touche' e: that's French for "ouch," right?
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But seriously, the never-ending string of made up scandals are doing exactly what they're supposed to do. None of them are actually supposed to take her down, but constantly keeping something in the news is contributing to a public perception of shadiness. Is it enough to stop her? lol no have you seen the other guys?
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Sep 13, 2015 17:17
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Gyges posted:Probably all of them. Especially after McKinley. Not being at least OK with shaking hands at a rope line (like Trump) would be a pretty new thing in modern American politics. Rope lines are very good politics, too -- people fondly remember shaking a candidate's hand forever, let alone a president's hand, regardless of the candidate/president. This is a non-issue, though, either way, because Trump isn't actually trying to be president, and his supporters have already proven themselves to be accepting of pretty much anything he does or says. On that note, that's where John Sides' Discovery/Scrutiny/Decline model is incomplete, since the scrutiny that drove down Cain and others has either had no effect or actually strengthened Trump's support. Is it just because Trump was already so well known, or because he's so legitimately different as a candidate? Or have we already figured this out?
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Trump is winning or within the margin of error to Carson among likely voters? And Sanders is winning or within MoE to Clinton, too?! Now I know how Trump feels. I wish we could hold the election now. Though either way, we'd get a president who can't pronounce "huge" correctly.
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NotWearingPants posted:touche' I dunno, I took one semester of French and got a pity B. I think it means touch?
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Patter Song posted:Are you ready for your Sunday morning poll dump? :bernget:
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William Bear posted:Trump is winning or within the margin of error to Carson among likely voters? And Sanders is winning or within MoE to Clinton, too?! Sanders/West v Trump/Carson
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William Bear posted:Trump is winning or within the margin of error to Carson among likely voters? And Sanders is winning or within MoE to Clinton, too?! Maybe it was everyone else all along that has been mispronouncing the word?
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Sep 13, 2015 17:31
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Chris Christie went on Meet The Press and told people to stop reading the papers in response to a question about Bridgegate. That doesn't fill me with confidence about his innocence.
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I had a dream that Trump didn't have a campaign website yet, and that for some reason he was an alum from my school so I ended up being his IT director.  time to step away from politics for a while, see you guys wednesday.
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Sep 13, 2015 17:41
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skaboomizzy posted:Chris Christie went on Meet The Press and told people to stop reading the papers in response to a question about Bridgegate. That doesn't fill me with confidence about his innocence. That's a top 5 answer to a question so far this cycle (Number one is still Walker's "no such thing as a hypothetical")
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Jewel Repetition posted:How many presidents have we had who didn't like shaking hands? Interestingly enough, George Washington himself intensely disliked shaking hands as he felt it was too informal and beneath the dignity of the chief executive. He preferred the older gentlemanly greeting of the bowing and doffing your hat.
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Doctor Candiru posted:
Trump is absolutely trying to be president get your head out of your rear end.
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Hahahaha, I suppose it was inevitable, really. Jesse Ventura talks about running with Donald Trump or on his own. quote:In recent weeks, Ventura has said that he is open to running for vice president on Donald Trump’s ticket. Politico carried the report, though there’s no invitation from Trump’s people. quote:He shrugs off the disbelief about an alliance with Trump, even though he has denounced Trump’s immigration policy on his Internet show, and, unlike Trump, strongly opposes U.S. military intervention in the Middle East. (Apologies in advance for my local newspaper's terrible website insisting on showing you an interstitial photograph before going to the story. And for its dumb paywall.)
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Bob Ojeda posted:That's a top 5 answer to a question so far this cycle Does he keep saying it over and over? I've avoided him, well so has the press.
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Zwabu posted:I don't really understand how Carson came to be #2. It doesn't seem like he's done anything much at all except be a bad speaker. Sure maybe he's getting the largest share of the "not Trump" vote right now, but why him as opposed to other fire breathing religious wingnuts like Santorum, Perry (RIP) or the Huck? Because they get to have their own black guy then. It's actually kind of smart from an electoral point of view.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Interestingly enough, George Washington himself intensely disliked shaking hands as he felt it was too informal and beneath the dignity of the chief executive. He preferred the older gentlemanly greeting of the bowing and doffing your hat. "M'Legislator"
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How many weeks has trump led the polls by now?
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even though i'm panglossing hard af right now I still don't think we live in a just enough universe for us to have the next 16 years be Trump / Ventura Trump / Ventura Ventura / West Ventura / West but it's lovely that it's even a potential future 
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Patter Song posted:Also worth considering that within right wing activist circles Ben Carson has been famous for a long time. Arguably since Gifted Hands (the Ben Carson biopic starring Cuba Gooding Jr. as Ben Carson) came out in 2009, but especially since he criticized Obama to his face at the 2013 Prayer Breakfast and suddenly became a regular commentator on all the right wing media. Ben Carson has been in their sights for quite some time. I didn't believe you but we exist in a post trump world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoAiTkkl-zo
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That Carson answer about probably not shooting Mike Brown is so amateur hour. That's a gift wrapped softball where you just talk about how you couldn't know one way or another without seeing the video or possibly "I'm not going to disrespect the officer by putting myself, a civilian with no context, into the shoes of someone who risks his life everyday"
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