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Assuming it's not possible to straight update from beta? I have a time machine backup so no big to restore, but it'll just take longer.
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robodex posted:Assuming it's not possible to straight update from beta? I have a time machine backup so no big to restore, but it'll just take longer. You should have received an email if it's not showing up in the App Store updates section. It gives you code (it will pre-enter for you) and start the download of the El Capitan GM image and then launch the installer. This is first I'm installing it, and I decided to update my personal dev laptop as opposed to the once I actually use for work, but I haven't heard of not being to install over a beta build. Give it a shot, the worst that could happen is it tells you no.
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flosofl posted:You should have received an email if it's not showing up in the App Store updates section. It gives you code (it will pre-enter for you) and start the download of the El Capitan GM image and then launch the installer. This is first I'm installing it, and I decided to update my personal dev laptop as opposed to the once I actually use for work, but I haven't heard of not being to install over a beta build. Give it a shot, the worst that could happen is it tells you no. True, I got the e-mail but just won't be home for long enough until Saturday to try. I'd like to avoid not having to do a full reinstall since my TM backup excludes all of the cloud storage I use (icloud drive, dropbox) and I don't think my connection could take redownloading 60gb of stuff. I don't think the TM drive I have is big enough to include them, either.
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Sep 10, 2015 17:21
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Installing the GM from the App Store on top of a beta build doesn't delete any data.
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Sep 10, 2015 20:12
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Is that an El Capitan error message? Someone put that in the OP, stat! Edit: seems to be an iTunes related issue
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Sep 10, 2015 20:25
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Binary Badger posted:Is that an El Capitan error message? Someone put that in the OP, stat! Yeah, I got the same error when I updated iTunes a couple weeks ago.
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Cozmosis posted:Man, San Francisco really looks terrible on a non-retina screen. Worse than Helvetica Neue. It sure does! One of these years we'll get a MBA with a non-terrible display. Or maybe they'll make the MacBook into a usable computer
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The Milkman posted:It sure does! My prediction: the MacBook Air will stagnate in terms of features until the MacBook roughly matches its performance and can be sold for roughly the same price, at which point the Air will be discontinued.
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The rear end Stooge posted:My prediction: the MacBook Air will stagnate in terms of features until the MacBook roughly matches its performance and can be sold for roughly the same price, at which point the Air will be discontinued. Yeah, the Air is almost certainly on the chopping block. It doesn't have a niche anymore, which is a shame because aside from the screen it's a much nicer machine than the MacBook.
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Sep 10, 2015 21:28
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Yeah, that's my guess too. No doubt the new MacBook will eventually get decent specs like the Air did, but the 'literally only one port even for charging and needs adapters to do anything ever' is brutal.
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The Milkman posted:Yeah, that's my guess too. No doubt the new MacBook will eventually get decent specs like the Air did, but the 'literally only one port even for charging and needs adapters to do anything ever' is brutal. Yeah I dislike the idea of a single port for everything. I especially dislike the idea of getting rid of the MagSafe power. I swear having the MagSafe adaptor has saved my rear end more times than I can count. I have my Air and I love it to death as it does pretty much everything I need a computer to do when I am not at home coupled with fantastic battery life.
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Sep 10, 2015 22:08
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Lightroom CC on a clean El Capitan install is hosed currently (I think it's a permissions issue). Lightroom 5 is okay, though.
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Sep 11, 2015 00:47
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Try reinstalling, I've had to do that for a couple of CS 6 apps and a BOINC project, also running El Capitan GM Candidate. It sure feels... smooth, not quite snappy. That pastel rainbow wheel spooked me for a second.. IMHO we're back to Mavericks snappy. Gonna see how well it works on a 2 GB MBA from 2010.. not expecting too much though, and then I gotta deal with trimforce and an OWC SSD drive.. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Sep 11, 2015 |
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Sep 11, 2015 00:54
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Oh god now I'm seriously loving confused, I definitely downloaded the "Install OS X 10.11 Developer Beta" from the Mac App store and used Terminal to create an USB install (because I wanted to do a clean one) but now the App Store is downloading and installing El Capitan beta 2 and now beta 3... what is going on here?
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You installed Beta 1. Congratulations. You should have downloaded "GM Candidate" from the App Store.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:You installed Beta 1. Congratulations. You should have downloaded "GM Candidate" from the App Store. But.. But... I thought... Goddamn it I have no idea how that happened. Guess I'm reinstalling OS X for the third time today! ...maybe Lightroom CC will be working again.
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Sep 11, 2015 02:28
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I did that on a dev machine somehow on accident during beta 6 or 7 and was back on beta 1. When I was using it, I thought man, Apple needs to get their poo poo together, this poo poo is still really glitchy after 6 betas lol
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Sep 11, 2015 02:28
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I'm still confused, the beta version of El Capitan doesn't even show up in my Purchase history (though it should, since I was on the beta versions) and the process to get the GM to show up in the Purchase section was exactly what I did the first time (down to the redemption code already having been used). Obviously Apple's servers glitched and downloaded the wrong thing, and I am not an idiot who fails basic reading comprehension. 
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Djarum posted:Yeah I dislike the idea of a single port for everything. I especially dislike the idea of getting rid of the MagSafe power. I swear having the MagSafe adaptor has saved my rear end more times than I can count. A single port is definitely needlessly limiting, but I think there are valid reasons to get rid of MagSafe. First, for long term use its been the least reliable type of power adapter I've ever used. At this point, using two different cables, if the thing isn't in the port just right it won't actually charge the battery. In the ~17ish years since I got my first laptop, I've never had a barrel type of adapter with that issue. Second, the major appeal of MagSafe, not damaging anything if something tugs the cable the wrong way, has limited utility in a world where a laptop gets 10+ hours of battery life. Charge it overnight in a safe spot, use it all day, no worries. Personally, I'm glad that it looks like Apple is moving away from proprietary connectors moving forward.
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I bet it is harder to make it work on a device that weighs less than 2 pounds, considering it needs to disconnect for a tug, but not a hard enough tug that would cause the laptop to fly away.
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TopherCStone posted:A single port is definitely needlessly limiting, but I think there are valid reasons to get rid of MagSafe. First, for long term use its been the least reliable type of power adapter I've ever used. At this point, using two different cables, if the thing isn't in the port just right it won't actually charge the battery. In the ~17ish years since I got my first laptop, I've never had a barrel type of adapter with that issue. Second, the major appeal of MagSafe, not damaging anything if something tugs the cable the wrong way, has limited utility in a world where a laptop gets 10+ hours of battery life. Charge it overnight in a safe spot, use it all day, no worries. Personally, I'm glad that it looks like Apple is moving away from proprietary connectors moving forward. I have heard that as a major complaint in the MagSafe 1 connectors but in the MagSafe 2 I have never had a issue with it not making a solid connection. Although that is in my experience. And yes you do get 10ish hours doing low power tasks like basic web surfing and the like but if you do anything that actually uses the processors and/or makes the fan spin up your 10 hours turns into less than 2. I imagine in the higher end MacBooks it is a bigger issue. As someone that has had to repair/replace a lot of laptop power jacks over the years it is nice owning a machine that for once I don't have to worry about that part. Personally I think that new MacBook is one of those one off Apple proof of concept machines that they come out with from time to time. It is a lot easier for them to test the waters of new types of hardware with a new machine that if it flops they aren't having to step back with things on their main lines.
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I've never had issues with Magsafe 1 or 2 connectors making good connections, except for one time when a small piece of metal chipped off and lodged itself between the connector and the contact. Of course because it's magnetic, I couldn't get that piece out of the socket until I got a pushpin to slowly drag it out 
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I installed the GM, after getting an email invite from Apple, and I can't get the Split View feature to work now. Is this happening to anybody else? Did Apple remove it because it was kinda wonky?
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I got it to work with Safari and Mail, but it's cumbersome as hell — is there a sensible way to do it, or are you really meant to drag a bunch of windows around in mission control? Also, it seems to not work if you cannot fullscreen the application. For example, my twitter client cannot be used with that split window mode, because it doesn't have a fullscreen mode. But that makes sense, since all split view seems to be is "fullscreen mode, but with two apps now!" Also, when you undo it by clicking the zoom/fullscreen button in one application, it only puts that application back — the remaining program is still fullscreen in its own Space.
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Goddamn motherfucking hell Apple, CAN YOU FOR ONCE NOT gently caress UP MAIL? Installed El Capitan GM, launched Mail. Shows database upgrade window... hits 99% and window disappears, only to reappear and start over again. On completion, Mail opens and I'm presented with no accounts and no mail. I've restored my Mail folder from backup and tried again three times now. Time to wipe and reinstall Yosemite. Fuuuuck.    Edit: Decided to delete all Mail files and settings and start from scratch because I really don't want to reinstall. My 6 IMAP accounts are up and working, set everything up how I like it again, etc. But when I try to import the .mbox folders containing my local mail, Mail finishes instantly and nothing shows up.  Edit 2: Still no luck with importing the local mail; neither "import from Apple Mail" nor "import from mbox" options succeed at actually importing the .mbox folder from Yosemite Mail. Of course. Just dumping the .mbox into ~/Library/Mail/V3/[local mail folder]/ didn't work (Mail doesn't see it), but I've removed all the Envelope Index files and relaunched Mail and it is currently attempting to rebuild the indexes. Fingers crossed this will actually work... Edit 3: All the mailboxes show up in the sidebar, but only half of them actually contain the mail they should. The rest are empty. Why oh why... Edit 4: I tried again, and this time everything seems intact on rebuild. Hooray. It just works! Choadmaster fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Sep 11, 2015 |
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lelandjs posted:Lightroom CC on a clean El Capitan install is hosed currently (I think it's a permissions issue). Lightroom 5 is okay, though. Adobe just puking Creative Cloud all over your file system is half the reason I cancelled my CC subscription. e: You okay, iTunes?  El Cap GM, if it's any help. TinTower fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Sep 11, 2015 |
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Just realized the iTunes album art screensaver built in with El Capitan doesn't support Apple Music. It just shows the 2-3 albums I had on my mac before I switched to AM  Like, it's such a minor thing but you'd think they would have at least fixed that for GM. Edit: also yes you can install GM over the beta, no actual issues so far.
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robodex posted:Just realized the iTunes album art screensaver built in with El Capitan doesn't support Apple Music. It just shows the 2-3 albums I had on my mac before I switched to AM iTunes updates are separate from OS updates. The current version of iTunes on my El Cap GM is 12.2.25, which was released last month. It should be fixed by Wednesday...
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I'm not sure if this is a question for this thread, the hardware thread, or the monitor thread, but here goes.. Has anyone with a 4k monitor had any success activating HiDPI resolutions on their Mac? When plugged into my Macbook Pro, I'm only able to choose between 3840 x 2160 or 1080p. The former is just a bit too hi-res to work on, so ideally i'd like to scale down to like 2880x1620 or something like that, but I just cannot get OS X to offer that as a HiDPI choice. I've tried creating a scaled resolution in SwitchResX, and it seems like it should work, but the new resolution just doesn't show up on the Display syspref panel. Anyone encountered an issue like this?
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Zartans Lady Mask posted:I'm not sure if this is a question for this thread, the hardware thread, or the monitor thread, but here goes.. What is the 4K monitor you're trying to use and what is the model of your Macbook (e.g. Retina Mid-2012)? edit: Oh! You do support 4K out, but what's the monitor just out of curiosity?
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Are there any other multi-protocol IM clients other than Adium? It keeps crashing on me for who knows what reasons. I liked Trillian in Windows cause it had better news feed support, which made Twitter more browseable, plus it had a secret hack to get Skype working in it despite skypekit being discontinued. Apparently Trillian is a POS on Macs though. Anything like that for OS X?
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dragon enthusiast posted:Are there any other multi-protocol IM clients other than Adium? It keeps crashing on me for who knows what reasons. I liked Trillian in Windows cause it had better news feed support, which made Twitter more browseable, plus it had a secret hack to get Skype working in it despite skypekit being discontinued. Apparently Trillian is a POS on Macs though. Anything like that for OS X? I use macports for irssi and bitlbee. This is obviously not the preferential answer for everybody, but in case you weren't aware of this being a thing.
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Hm, I use weechat for IRC, TweetDeck for Twitter, and Goofy for Facebook Messenger. Haven't felt the need for a multi-protocol client in a while, since those three applications are fairly lightweight IMO, and are fairly specialized - I can't see myself using an IM client for Twitter or for IRC.
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Trillian basically designed completely new UI for its Twitter functionality. I think Adium uses the libpurple Twitter extension which routes timeline functionality through the regular messaging UI, and it's really ugly as a result. If there's nothing better I guess I'll download Tweetdeck.
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crazysim posted:What is the 4K monitor you're trying to use and what is the model of your Macbook (e.g. Retina Mid-2012)? It's an Acer B286HK. Pretty much as basic a 4k screen as you can find, but it's awesome for non-gaming purposes.
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I have a hankering for playing the older titles, namely Civilizations I and II and looking for a way to do so. Google found sites recommend sheep shaver but I cannot for the life of me get it to run in El Capitan.
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Sep 13, 2015 18:33
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Yeah, it looks like all Apple Support static pages are hosed for me.. if you use Safari in Yosemite 10.10.5. For example, try this page about installing Windows 10 in Boot Cramp: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204990 Works fine for me in Googoo Chrome and Firefox though. C'mon Apple! Support your own loving browser. Fake edit: it's not AdBlock or uBlock/uBlock Origins either. Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Sep 13, 2015 |
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