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I drive by this from time to time and I can only assume it's someone who profoundly hates his/her neighbors: https://goo.gl/maps/7qMm3
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Here are some pics I snapped half an hour ago. Forgive the dusk. These apartment towers were completed in 1966 and were considered "luxurious" back in those innocent times: every floor contains four two-bedroom apartments, stacked sixteen stories high. These apartments were issued to the upper class - the working poor had to settle with "sardine can" apartments from my penultimate post. These towers also show how the architects in 1966 were overly confident in the longevity of the concrete - every apartment came with a kitchen balcony, which in reality was a small slab of reinforced concrete sticking out the side of the building. Unfortunately, the concrete is only around three inches thick (concrete is forever, man!) and half a century later, the concrete started cracking like crazy and balconies turned into wobbly death traps of spalling, substandard concrete. But hey, everything can be fixed with a lil' bit of redneck engineering:  Yeah, prop up the fucker with two metal bars. I'd still be afraid to step on that thing. Would you? Unfortunately, the only real solution to "concrete cancer" as it's called, is mega-expensive: punch away ALL the old concrete till you've got nothing but a bunch of rebar sticking out the building, and then cast a whole new concrete slab in place of the old one. This sort of repair is often done on concrete beam bridges. The hapless people living in that apartment obviously can't afford to have the balcony repaired, so instead they just propped it up with bars and hoped for the best. It'll hold, man! Oh, and I unexpectedly caught this gem of redneck engineering on the way home:  I think their intentions were to build a balcony but they gave up halfway through for reasons unknown, and these doors are now a great place to accidentally walk out from while drunk and tumble down onto the driveway. Who knows, maybe they realized that balconies are a bad idea to begin with. e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rZc9qm4ArU A SWEATY FATBEARD fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Sep 11, 2015 |
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Sep 11, 2015 19:01
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Maneki Neko posted:I drive by this from time to time and I can only assume it's someone who profoundly hates his/her neighbors: There is a daycare right next door. Of course they hate their neighbours.
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Sep 12, 2015 01:03
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MikeJF posted:The old one's gorgeous and certainly a level above the new one. But the new one is isn't atrocious. It looks like it's degraded a bit, but with a minor refit to the surfaces to the left and right of the main hall it could be very nice. On the right, cover the concrete top and bottom of the windows with white rims matching the top of the main hall, and on the left... okay, just refront the non-glass surfaces, yellowing squares are out. And extend the ground floor aesthetic to both sides. Maybe as you do that move the zeitcafe to the right of the main hall where the bike racks are, I hate having things stick out the front and interrupt what was clearly meant to be a big sheet entrance. Like we won't know we want a coffee unless we literally bump into it on the way in, having it a few feet away apparently isn't enough. I agree. The old pile was grand, but extremely outdated style-wise and probably on the brink of collapsing structurally; the replacement could be better but isn't too bad, very competent example of cutting-edge style of the time, which has held up, it's still stylish today. If you want to get mad about train station replacements, there are far worse travesties. For example, Penn Station NYC. Original:    Now:   
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Sep 12, 2015 01:35
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I was going through photos from when I lived in Seoul when I found this. Korea is a bit of an acquired taste, architecturally, but that remains the ugliest building I've ever seen. There's so much wrong.
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Sep 12, 2015 16:23
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joedevola posted:I was going through photos from when I lived in Seoul when I found this. I'm glad his casa isn't my casa. also: Casa? More like paskakasa.
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Sep 12, 2015 17:19
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Bonster posted:The babies are really creepy up close.
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Sep 12, 2015 17:56
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Jerry Cotton posted:I'm glad his casa isn't my casa. Apartment buildings in Korea all have names. The oddest I saw was probably "SPACEMOM"
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Sep 12, 2015 19:11
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joedevola posted:Apartment buildings in Korea all have names. The oddest I saw was probably "SPACEMOM" I'd live in spacemom apartments.
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Sep 12, 2015 19:16
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SPACEMOM I don't see a scheduled total war test for today. Yeah, sorry about that, Control. We've had a few incidents recently and I forgot to file the notice. We'll take care of that, SPACEMOM. Thanks, Control. You've really saved my rear end.
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Sep 12, 2015 19:18
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joedevola posted:Apartment buildings in Korea all have names. The oddest I saw was probably "SPACEMOM" We have a quarter officially called Port Arthur. In a decidedly non-anglophone city about 9000 km away from Port Arthur, with no historical connection to Port Arthur, and no Chinese population to speak of (certainly not living in that quarter). Also the quarter isn't particularly near the port and there's no-one called Arthur of historical importance in the country and/or city. Things just get named is what I'm saying 
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Geirskogul posted:SPACEMOM I don't see a scheduled total war test for today. Not as good as the Good Dredd Movie.
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Sep 12, 2015 19:22
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Behold... THE GLORY OF THE COSMOS! I suppose when your building looks exactly the same as 90% of the rest of the country you need to big it up however you can.
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Sep 12, 2015 20:25
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joedevola posted:I was going through photos from when I lived in Seoul when I found this. It looks like someone was building it and lost the blueprint halfway through. Nothing looks like it lines up quite right. Also, I do not understand all of those false-window looking things they got going next to the CASA sign. What is the point of that?
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Sep 12, 2015 21:10
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Yawgmoth posted:I want to hire an architect whose style can be described as "every Tool video ever" to make me a house. You can, it would be Czech artist David Cerny. Though the last time he was hired to make something, it just was an insult in model kit form.
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Terminal Entropy posted:Though the last time he was hired to make something, it just was an insult in model kit form.
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Sep 12, 2015 22:32
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In Japan, apartment/office buildings need names because the address system is unfriendly to new structures. Offices are usually like "Suzuki Building #2" but apartments get creative. The Royal, Lovely Garden, Atlantis 21, Eclaire, Excellent Corn...
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Delivery McGee posted:For example, Penn Station NYC. somehow you managed to find pictures of Penn that make it look positively spacious and airy compared to the reality even this photo doesn't really sum up exactly how oppressively claustrophobic and grimy and lovely Penn is:  coming in to the city on a train that brings you to Penn instead of Grand Central is horrible; the navigation from the trains to the subway or the surface feels like being lost in some kind of subterranean Judge Dredd termite-hive shopping mall or some poo poo
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Don't forget how all the tunnels flood when it rains, or how 2,000 people crowd in front of the train schedule board and stampede each other to get to the 4 convenient platform stairways.
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Sep 13, 2015 02:50
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Behold! Brutalist playgrounds!
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Here's the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VobiEV3YEas
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Delivery McGee posted:I agree. The old pile was grand, but extremely outdated style-wise and probably on the brink of collapsing structurally; the replacement could be better but isn't too bad, very competent example of cutting-edge style of the time, which has held up, it's still stylish today. If you want to get mad about train station replacements, there are far worse travesties. 99% invisible did a great podcast on Penn Station: http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/penn-station-sucks/
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InediblePenguin posted:somehow you managed to find pictures of Penn that make it look positively spacious and airy compared to the reality tbqh this is a pretty good introduction to new york city. as much as i love the place, it really is overwhelming and horrible in too many ways to count
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Sep 13, 2015 14:38
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peanut posted:In Japan, apartment/office buildings need names because the address system is unfriendly to new structures. Offices are usually like "Suzuki Building #2" but apartments get creative. i'm curious how the address system works.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i'm curious how the address system works. I'm more interested in the possibility of renaming the building I live in to something like "Delirious Sidewalk".
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Sep 13, 2015 16:22
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Groovelord Neato posted:i'm curious how the address system works.
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Sep 13, 2015 16:29
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"The Japanese system is complex and idiosyncratic, the product of the natural growth of urban areas, as opposed to the systems used in cities that are laid out as grids and divided into quadrants or districts." uh i live outside of one of the older major cities in the us and it's still numbered normally despite growing naturally over time.
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drat the Japanese system is retarded. In former Yugoslavia, the buildings were numbered this way: left-side houses get odd numbers, right-side buildings get even numbers. This way, if you've got, say, building number 157 on Lenin street, with a huge plot of unused land which later gets turned into a building plot, you'd use the following: 157 gets renamed to 157A (default), while new construction gets named 157B, 157C, 157D; ad infinitum. This is gloriously awesome when you're a pizza delivery guy and you have to find place X. The downside is that one side of the road rarely matches the other side in number: left side of the road could have houses numbered 231 or so while the right side has number 46
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A SWEATY FATBEARD posted:left-side houses get odd numbers, right-side buildings get even numbers But-  oh never mind
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Is that unusual? That's how they do it where I live so I assumed it was like that everywhere.
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cloudchamber posted:Is that unusual? That's how they do it where I live so I assumed it was like that everywhere. I think he was just making a joke about left and right being relative. Your meaning was clear.
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In the US, blocks have the same left-right even-odd system, but with the number sets on blocks self-contained. For instance, if you're heading down a street looking for 1420 Maple, you can go to the 1400 block, which is between the 1300 and 1500 blocks. No matter what the last number on the previous block is, it resets back to 00 for the next one.
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popewiles posted:I think he was just making a joke about left and right being relative. Your meaning was clear. Oh, I see. Since that guy mentioned Yugoslavia, I guess I'll post something from there. The exterior shots of Josef K's apartment in The Trial were shot outside of a beautiful 1950s housing estate in Zagreb called, at the time anyway, the Avenue of the Proletarian Brigades: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXbjN_-0ZS0
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cloudchamber posted:Oh, I see. Since that guy mentioned Yugoslavia, I guess I'll post something from there. The exterior shots of Josef K's apartment in The Trial were shot outside of a beautiful 1950s housing estate in Zagreb called, at the time anyway, the Avenue of the Proletarian Brigades: That street is 15 minutes away from my house. A grocery store/multistory garage is now standing in the place where the camera is located in the video. The street changed its name at least four times: "Avenue of Science", then "Moscow street", then in early 60s it was settled as "Avenue of Proletarian Brigades." Today, it's called "Vukovar street." The buildings erected there are masterpieces of brutalism (as in, "fugly as all hell") and they were not made out of prefabricated concrete: load-bearing walls were built out of in-situ cast concrete, with standard brick masonry fillings for inside walls. This method of building soon gave way to standard plattenbau as in-situ casting was deemed slow, inefficient and prohibitively expensive. Also, the first grocery store in that street wasn't built until well into the 60s: there used to be a large chain of soup kitchens scattered around, and people were expected to dine out. The concept of soup kitchens was abandoned almost immediately, which meant that people had to haul their groceries from stores far, far away (good thing the public transport was/is reasonably good) edit: Zagreb wasn't carpet bombed during the WWII (thx RAF!) which meant that there was no massive rush to redevelop war-ruined housings: postwar period was spent slowly filling the empty plots between prewar houses. First large-scale projects came to pass in 1957. The downside to this was that lovely housings for the working poor was left to stand and decay. This stuff would've been demolished had the town been bombed, and replaced by something much, much better. There are some areas of the town which were slums by early 70s, but "tearing down old housing" was an unspeakable anathema for socialist-era city planners. Even today, it's not hard to find 19th century, abandoned and collapsing houses with windows boarded over: not even the Gypsies want to squat in them anymore. Look here to see Zagreb houses which should've been torn down 100 years ago: http://blog.dnevnik.hr/nepoznatizag...etnje-font.html A SWEATY FATBEARD fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Sep 14, 2015 |
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I can't believe I've gone through this entire thread and it's taken me until now to remember that this building exists only a little ways away from me: Spruce Tree Center in Saint Paul, made entirely out of bathroom tiles.
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Terminal Entropy posted:You can, it would be Czech artist David Cerny. Though the last time he was hired to make something, it just was an insult in model kit form.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Jerry Cotton posted:We have a quarter officially called Port Arthur. In a decidedly non-anglophone city about 9000 km away from Port Arthur, with no historical connection to Port Arthur, and no Chinese population to speak of (certainly not living in that quarter). Also the quarter isn't particularly near the port and there's no-one called Arthur of historical importance in the country and/or city.  Port Arthur in Turku is named after the Russian naval defeat against Japan in 1904, the quarter was being built during the war and it was a subversive anti-Russian nickname to the new working class part of town that was located on the almost exact opposite side of the vast Russian Empire. The name stuck and became common usage even after Finnish independence, so, actually, things just get named, yeah.
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Elder Postsman posted:I can't believe I've gone through this entire thread and it's taken me until now to remember that this building exists only a little ways away from me: Tiles make really nice cladding. It's really popular in Japan
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Elder Postsman posted:I can't believe I've gone through this entire thread and it's taken me until now to remember that this building exists only a little ways away from me: The only building that makes a ghetto strip mall across the street look good.
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Elder Postsman posted:I can't believe I've gone through this entire thread and it's taken me until now to remember that this building exists only a little ways away from me: Nope, sorry. If y'all can all jerk off about brutalism, then I can unironically like this.
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