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SynthOrange posted:Annake what the gently caress are you playing at?! No. Who is the person he is talking to when he says "i won't let her get you"? Is it one of his harem and he is using her as a symbol for his power? Or is it someone special I don't remember?
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I dont think we've seen her before. She doesnt look like a Valkyrie. More like a mirror of Odin.
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Sep 10, 2015 04:18
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I don't know what there is to suggest that the other Daft Punk-ish figure is a woman. My first, probably incorrect, thought was Loki, probably because Gillen's whole "I am the crime that cannot be forgiven" (that's the phrasing, right?) in his Norse stuff over at Marvel seemed to loom large in this issue thematically.
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Archyduke posted:I don't know what there is to suggest that the other Daft Punk-ish figure is a woman. My first, probably incorrect, thought was Loki, probably because Gillen's whole "I am the crime that cannot be forgiven" (that's the phrasing, right?) in his Norse stuff over at Marvel seemed to loom large in this issue thematically. I'm pretty sure that line is from Ewing's run. But yeah, Loki makes sense if you look at the horn motif on the helmet. The other option people are considering is Frigg, and that makes sense too. It's a mystery.
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Sep 10, 2015 08:42
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I can't believe Wic+Div team managed to turn the friendly parody joust with Sex Criminals into a serious and creepy point.
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Sep 10, 2015 08:52
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I cant believe I was reading that in public.  Also another theory about their identity, the page immediately after says 'Thought and Memory', which are Odin's ravens. It might be possible that he's also a multiple god? Who knows though, not enough information to go on just yet.
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Sep 10, 2015 09:51
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I'd be surprised if it was Loki, just because Loki is such a signature Gillen character, and I'm pretty sure he's said in interviews that he avoided using him for that reason. I like the theory that Woden is not who we think he is, especially as he is masked. Are Woden and his mysterious masked partner actually the ravens, Huginn and Muninn? Perhaps, but I'm not sure what that would mean or if it adds anything. Woden almost certainly knows that there are more than 12 pantheon Myers. Perhaps this is another secret member? I've also seen speculation that it's Laura. Seems unlikely, but maybe not impossible.
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Sep 10, 2015 12:33
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krakagar posted:I'd be surprised if it was Loki, just because Loki is such a signature Gillen character, and I'm pretty sure he's said in interviews that he avoided using him for that reason. Definitely not impossible, Annake throws Woden her body and insults him, Woden Valkyrizes her? I think it's more likely that she's another god, though. The way Woden and Annake were talking about it, Annake can actually give anyone godhood at any time, so who knows how many "extra" gods are floating around.
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fatherboxx posted:I can't believe Wic+Div team managed to turn the friendly parody joust with Sex Criminals into a serious and creepy point. I'm not reading Sex Criminals, what's going on there. Also Gillen said at the end it was all reused art but I don't remember the strapon cosplay scenes from earlier issues...
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zoux posted:I'm not reading Sex Criminals, what's going on there. You've just answers your own question there... (It's from a scene in Sex Criminals, where some characters are making a WicDiv porno, The Lick-ed and the Divine) krakagar fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Sep 10, 2015 |
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Sep 10, 2015 15:03
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zoux posted:I'm not reading Sex Criminals, what's going on there. Some scenes are taken from Sex Criminals.
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Sep 10, 2015 15:08
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Oh haha I thought that art looked weird. I wanna go to a Zdarsky/Fraction/Gillen/McKelvie dinner party.
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Sep 10, 2015 15:12
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Is there a second trade of Wic+Dev yet? I can't tell if I like We Stand On Guard. Plutonia was interesting but I wasn't grabbed like I was with Sweet Tooth and Descender.
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Sep 10, 2015 15:40
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There's been a second W+D trade for a couple months. They're almost into third trade time.
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Sep 10, 2015 16:07
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Anyone read Head Lopper, I suggest you pick it up, it truly is something special
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Sep 10, 2015 16:33
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Space Fish posted:Five issues in, still going strong, including the bonus essays. I'm sure #6 will be great as well, and I look forward to reading it this time next year.
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Sep 10, 2015 16:37
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zoux posted:I'm not reading Sex Criminals, what's going on there. you should probably read sex criminals
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Sep 10, 2015 18:18
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I plan to, I'm just waiting on a sale.
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Sep 10, 2015 18:21
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krakagar posted:I like the theory that Woden is not who we think he is, especially as he is masked. Are Woden and his mysterious masked partner actually the ravens, Huginn and Muninn? Perhaps, but I'm not sure what that would mean or if it adds anything. Ananke calls him "the pet of a god". I took this to mean she was reminding him that he only exists/lives at her mercy BUT it can, esp. given his unknown partner at the end, totally be read that way. You can also read the line where he thinks "Odin gave up his eye" as not referring to the mythical/past Odin but Odin as a separate and current being than himself. I wouldn't put money on it but it's interesting to think about. I also wonder if Woden is the only god "in the know" as it were. I love the use of Lick-ed and Divine "footage" and must confess I didn't remember it was from a different comic while I was reading it because, as some of you might remember, I am loving terrible. Seriously, even after reading the dedication to Fraction and Zdarsky. Christ. On a similar note I'm glad I read this issue in my office and not in the lunchroom.
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Diet Poison posted:Ananke calls him "the pet of a god". I took this to mean she was reminding him that he only exists/lives at her mercy BUT it can, esp. given his unknown partner at the end, totally be read that way. You can also read the line where he thinks "Odin gave up his eye" as not referring to the mythical/past Odin but Odin as a separate and current being than himself. I wouldn't put money on it but it's interesting to think about. I also wonder if Woden is the only god "in the know" as it were. Yup, these all support that theory. I think they're there to deliberately lead you down that path,. The main reason I don't think this is the case though is I just don't see what that adds to the story, or the conspiracy. If Woden is actually Hunginn (or Muninn), then even if he's a different god, he's still the same person, who's done the same things. That also means that if the other person is an unknown god, Ananke resurrected them, so would know about them. It could be someone that she's using to keep Woden sweet (he's clearly very useful to her), but I also don't see that she couldn't achieve the same effect by just slowly counting to 3... The threat of a head a-splosion is probably more than enough to get him to do her dirty deeds for her. It seems a strange place to add a brand new character. It's likely a character we've already met. The more I think about it, the more I think it could be Laura though. Woden clearly had a thing for her, for one. Also, he wears a mask because he disfigured himself, its entirly possible it some kind of life support, and the things he makes clearly have pretty strong powers, so perhaps its possible that this could stretch to keeping alive someone who's recently found themselves headless? The gods are beacoup strong, after all. Plus, Persephone is a god who's story is all about resurrection and rebirth. I am fairly certain she'll be back one way or another. Who else could it be though? Lucifer? Seems doubtful. One of the Valkyries? Beth? That could be interesting... Ugh. loving Woden.
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pugnax posted:Is there a second trade of Wic+Dev yet? WSOG I'm following because I want to see America brought to ruin. Plutonia #1 was a very long prologue... kind of difficult to tell where it'll go.
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Sep 11, 2015 03:40
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I gotta be confused by comics publicly more often. I sparked an interesting discussion unintentionally!
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I'll bet on Lucifer. Lucifer, especially as Gillen used her, is a bit of a reflection of Loki, and Odin and Loki were best buds in myths. Odin was narrating the whole story to the horned person, and he talked about Cassandra and Laura in 3rd person (eg "I hated her"), but he never quite does that when talking about Lucifer. I'd bet he copied or saved part of Lucifer somehow because this Odin is a minion and Lucifer is all vanity and take charge. Ananke is the way gods enter the world, so maybe Odin found his own way to bring a god in, but I think Lucifer is a cleaner answer. The horns work, the red text works, the context works. As for some of the other stuff, these gods have always been a bit separate from the real mythological gods. Tara wasn't sure what Tara she was, and Ananke said that wasn't uncommon. So that explains his phrasing when he says "Odin sacrificed his good looks for wisdom"
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StumblyWumbly posted:I'll bet on Lucifer. Lucifer, especially as Gillen used her, is a bit of a reflection of Loki, and Odin and Loki were best buds in myths.
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Space Fish posted:Five issues in, still going strong, including the bonus essays. I actually don't think Bitch Planet itself is that great, but the essays at the end are way more interesting and worth the price of it on their own.
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I just caught up on Spread, and drat that's a weird, enjoyable book.
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What happened to prophet?
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Spazzle posted:What happened to prophet? I just hope that he got bogged down doing Island and 8House and it's still coming. 
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Sep 14, 2015 04:33
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John Prophet died on the way back to his home planet.
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Sigma-X posted:Is nobody else reading Autumnlands? Yeah, this is the kind of stuff I dig. I read the first issue but kinda forgot about it until the trade came out, and snapped it up immediately. But then I moved city and haven't had a chance to read it yet. I might dig it out of whichever box it's in tonight 
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Spazzle posted:What happened to prophet? The climatic arc, Earth War, has been delayed several times. Does not help that Milogiannis is serving in the Greek army now and Graham would probably want at least some pages from him.
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fatherboxx posted:The climatic arc, Earth War, has been delayed several times. I saw he posted that he only has a few months left!
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Brandon Graham just posted on his Tumblr that it's due December. http://royalboiler.tumblr.com/post/129065937118/hi-brandon-any-news-on-prophet-earth-war
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Speaking of things due, I posted this in the chat thread but this is probably a better place:Ror posted:Does anyone know if Orc Stain #8 is actually coming out this month? Midtown Comics says it's coming on the 23rd but it's the only place I see it listed and half of the time shipping dates you find online are wrong, even for big two stuff. Except my hopefulness has now faded and I'll be shocked if it's actually on the way.
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krakagar posted:Brandon Graham just posted on his Tumblr that it's due December. On one hand, he said that last year on the other  
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Sep 15, 2015 13:06
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God, Letter 44 is great.
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Sep 15, 2015 13:46
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I wish it had better art, but the story's fantastic.
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It is indeed great but the last year has left me mad curious as to how the TV adaptation will turn out, what with all the insane WWIII/Germany v USA stuff going on in Earth. It's such an amazing escalation of events compared to how the story appears to be set up at the start..!
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