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Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

General Battuta posted:

I worked on item descriptions and the Grimoire fiction companion. The script was already locked down by the time I joined the company.


I thought the same at first but in the back half of the book I came around to a lot of them, since I started to understand exactly what had happened to them. The protagonist in particular is about eight times more interesting than her lovely early scenes suggest.

Ah, well then the reviewer's being lovely as those were the more amusing / interesting parts. Whoever was responsible for dinklebot's terrible lines (and lovely voice direction) should be slapped with a wet noodle though

Even if you tell me they were ironically bad they're still bad :v:

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andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul

General Battuta posted:

I thought the same at first but in the back half of the book I came around to a lot of them, since I started to understand exactly what had happened to them. The protagonist in particular is about eight times more interesting than her lovely early scenes suggest.

It's been a few months since i read it but i remember being a bit confused as to why the cop was ever involved in the plot in the first place, it seems like nothing he did was anything the main character actually needed done by someone else, and since his involvement was entirely orchestrated by her i was a little lost. I also read the book in the middle of the night in one sitting though so my memory of it may be a bit fuzzy.

THIS_IS_FINE
May 21, 2001

Slippery Tilde
Should I read the Dark Tower series?

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul

Kampfy Von Wafflehaus posted:

Should I read the Dark Tower series?

you're going to get differing opinions here but here's mine: 1 and 4 are good. Helpfully, 1 and 4 are basically functional as stand-alone novels. You can skip the rest because they range from middling (2,3) to insane (5-7).

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Here's a contrary one: 1-3 are good to varying degrees. 4-7 aren't worth bothering with.

thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp
The definitive answer is no.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

The real definitive answer is yes. But stop if you start to hate it at any time after book 4.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Probably the biggest problem with the Dark Tower series is that King went from writing it whenever he had an idea of what to do next (1-4) to writing it because he was afraid of dying before finishing (5-7.) So the quality understandably takes a pretty big dip for those last three.

thehomemaster
Jul 16, 2014

by Ralp

Victorkm posted:

The real definitive answer is yes. But stop if you start to hate it at any time after book 4.

If you read four books of seven in a up-til-then well put together world, then you are invested.

Safer to just never start. They aren't life-changing, any of them.

Junkenstein
Oct 22, 2003

I'd imagine the last three books aren't so bad if read straight through as a standard fantasy series. A lot of the disappointment at the time was because all of that 'Dark Tower Related' stuff turned out to be nonsense.

Junkenstein fucked around with this message at 12:53 on Sep 15, 2015

Stupid_Sexy_Flander
Mar 14, 2007

Is a man not entitled to the haw of his maw?
Grimey Drawer
Finished up The City Stained Red by Sam Sykes.

Pretty decent. I didn't finish the original trilogy he did because I just couldn't get into the mood to really finish it up, but this one is actually pretty good so far.

Memorable characters, lots of questions, random "What in the gently caress?" moments, and at least one rear end in a top hat goat.

I'd give it 3.5 to 4 stars outta 5.

Definitely worth grabbing if you have some extra cash to throw at a kindle book.

Polikarpov
Jun 1, 2013

Keep it between the buoys
I started reading The Traitor Baru Cormorant and couldn't stop. What an incredible ride- I haven't read a story this compelling in a long, long time.

General Battuta I hope you have a long and prolific writing career so I can read a lot more of your fiction.

Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
Jesus, Assassin's Apprentice by Robin Hobb is depressing. This along with Aurora, man, I'm going to need some reeeeally happy stories soon. What's something in fantasy that's optimistic and feel-good, along the lines of The Goblin Emperor?

Bolverkur
Aug 9, 2012

I read the first Dark Tower book and I really liked it. You can totally just leave it at that as long as you can accept that there is a mystery there that goes unanswered. I personally quite like that and feel it improves the feeling of the book as a whole, makes this whole dream-like Western quest all the better.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.

Polikarpov posted:

I started reading The Traitor Baru Cormorant and couldn't stop. What an incredible ride- I haven't read a story this compelling in a long, long time.

General Battuta I hope you have a long and prolific writing career so I can read a lot more of your fiction.

Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.

Hedrigall have you read any Diana Wynne Jones?

Echo Cian
Jun 16, 2011

Hedrigall posted:

Jesus, Assassin's Apprentice by Robin Hobb is depressing. This along with Aurora, man, I'm going to need some reeeeally happy stories soon. What's something in fantasy that's optimistic and feel-good, along the lines of The Goblin Emperor?

Anything by Diana Wynne Jones, the Johannes Cabal series isn't necessarily happy but is definitely hilarious and fun, Patricia McKillip's fantasy tends to be light and have happy endings.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


Hedrigall posted:

Jesus, Assassin's Apprentice by Robin Hobb is depressing. This along with Aurora, man, I'm going to need some reeeeally happy stories soon. What's something in fantasy that's optimistic and feel-good, along the lines of The Goblin Emperor?

Rachel Aaron's Legend of Eli Monpress series is a quick read, mostly pretty upbeat, and the ending is optimistic and :3: as hell.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Hedrigall posted:

Jesus, Assassin's Apprentice by Robin Hobb is depressing. This along with Aurora, man, I'm going to need some reeeeally happy stories soon. What's something in fantasy that's optimistic and feel-good, along the lines of The Goblin Emperor?
Bridge of Birds. Single best thing this forum introduced me to.

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!

Hedrigall posted:

Jesus, Assassin's Apprentice by Robin Hobb is depressing.

There's a happy ending. Eventually.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

anilEhilated posted:

Bridge of Birds. Single best thing this forum introduced me to.

I've been hawking Harm's Way by Colin Greenland as the next Bridge of Birds but so far nobody seems to have taken me up on the recommendation

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I've been hawking Harm's Way by Colin Greenland as the next Bridge of Birds but so far nobody seems to have taken me up on the recommendation
I will now!

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

andrew smash posted:

It's been a few months since i read it but i remember being a bit confused as to why the cop was ever involved in the plot in the first place, it seems like nothing he did was anything the main character actually needed done by someone else, and since his involvement was entirely orchestrated by her i was a little lost. I also read the book in the middle of the night in one sitting though so my memory of it may be a bit fuzzy.
If you're referring to the DHS agent, he was actually really vital because a) somebody had to arrange the armored assault so as to make it seem entirely natural, and more importantly 2) somebody had to kill David in a way that he wouldn't see coming. Her plans needed a deus ex machina, and she wasn't going to put Steve in that position, so she found a convenient DHS officer.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Junkenstein posted:

I'd imagine the last three books aren't so bad if read straight through as a standard fantasy series. A lot of the disappointment at the time was because all of that 'Dark Tower Related' stuff turned out to be nonsense.

As someone who did in fact read it straight through after it was done, they really are that bad. I'm with andrew smash; 1 & 4 are worth reading, 2/3 maybe if the weird high fantasy/wild west mash up is really doing it for you and you're happy with not getting a conclusion to the main plot. The back three are just dull and uninspiring.

Fangz posted:

There's a happy ending. Eventually.

If you manage to make it all the way to Fool's Fate, I think like the entire final sixth of that book is 100% happy ending porn. :3:

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

My copy of The Traitor Baru Cormorant was not in the mail today! :argh:

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

I've been hawking Harm's Way by Colin Greenland as the next Bridge of Birds but so far nobody seems to have taken me up on the recommendation

Colin's books have some wonderfully crappy covers.

My clothing is so tight you can see my birthmark through it.


Kiss me, space Fabio Angel...


HELLO I AM THE NINETIES!

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Autonomous Monster posted:

If you manage to make it all the way to Fool's Fate, I think like the entire final sixth of that book is 100% happy ending porn. :3:

And then the new series happens.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Ornamented Death posted:

And then the new series happens.

Oh, there's like four decades between the end of the one and the start of the other. :colbert: Half the characters FF puts a bow on are dead of old age by the time FA gets up to speed.

It doesn't invalidate the old happy ending, it just... places Fitz into a new and entirely separate story of misery, because he is some sort of cosmic piņata.

...anyway, since we're on the subject... what was that whole demon-head-spider-baby-thing plotline about in the Dark Tower? I've forgotten.

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
I have been ordered to say this by my publicist, I am sorry: if you like BARU please drop a review and rating on Amazon! For some stupid algorithmic reason the first couple reviews matter a lot to the book's future. Why she wants me to give this information to Something Awful I don't know

EDIT: I feel like I should clarify: this was a joke, my publicist did not say 'go get ratings from Something Awful', every author gets a talk about how it's important to get Amazon ratings but nobody sent me to any specific place.

Also holy poo poo Declare is good, thank you to everyone who recommended it. Is Anubis Gates half as strong?

General Battuta fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Sep 21, 2015

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

Kampfy Von Wafflehaus posted:

Should I read the Dark Tower series?

I liked all of them although they do get pretty weird / abstract. They were written over about 30 years and have a literal self-insert at one point but there's some interesting stuff in them as a meta-commentary on fiction and Stephen King's thoughts of himself as a writer. Try them, read them til they suck :shrug:

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

General Battuta posted:

Also holy poo poo Declare is good, thank you to everyone who recommended it. Is Anubis Gates half as strong?
Not really. It's his most famous book but it's more on the simple pulpy adventure side. If you like the more complex plot of Declare, I'd suggest Last Call or Stress of Her Regard. Declare is easily his best book, though.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


General Battuta posted:

I have been ordered to say this by my publicist, I am sorry: if you like BARU please drop a review and rating on Amazon! For some stupid algorithmic reason the first couple reviews matter a lot to the book's future. Why she wants me to give this information to Something Awful I don't know

Also holy poo poo Declare is good, thank you to everyone who recommended it. Is Anubis Gates half as strong?

I liked The Anubis Gates, but liked Declare a lot more. But I have a weakness for espionage, especially when crossed with other genres.

Dick Trauma posted:

Colin's books have some wonderfully crappy covers.

My clothing is so tight you can see my birthmark through it.

The version I had just had a bunch of spaceships on the cover, IIRC.

I remember really disliking Take Back Plenty, but I couldn't tell you why at this point, it's been too long.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

General Battuta posted:

I have been ordered to say this by my publicist, I am sorry: if you like BARU please drop a review and rating on Amazon! For some stupid algorithmic reason the first couple reviews matter a lot to the book's future. Why she wants me to give this information to Something Awful I don't know

Also holy poo poo Declare is good, thank you to everyone who recommended it. Is Anubis Gates half as strong?

You're also way bumped in visibility every 25 reviews, apparently. Unless they changed that.

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!

General Battuta posted:

I have been ordered to say this by my publicist, I am sorry: if you like BARU please drop a review and rating on Amazon! For some stupid algorithmic reason the first couple reviews matter a lot to the book's future. Why she wants me to give this information to Something Awful I don't know

Also holy poo poo Declare is good, thank you to everyone who recommended it. Is Anubis Gates half as strong?

You've probably answered this already/ it has nothing to do with you, but I just tried to buy the book on Amazon and it's not out in the UK til the 24th of this month; is that something the author gets control of/ is kept in the loop about?

General Battuta
Feb 7, 2011

This is how you communicate with a fellow intelligence: you hurt it, you keep on hurting it, until you can distinguish the posts from the screams.
Kept in the loop, but no control. I couldn't even control my UK title!

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Whenever the question is "does the author have power over X", it's always "nope"

Amazon is probably smart enough to know I haven't bought the book through them (I don't do e-readers so I got a hardcover through another retailer, also shipping to Finland all the way from the US/UK would've cost a bunch) and leaving a review when I haven't even read the book yet is bad form anyway.

The ebook probably isn't even available if I had my real address on Amazon.

But I'll do one on goodreads!

Sulphagnist fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Sep 15, 2015

The Supreme Court
Feb 25, 2010

Pirate World: Nearly done!
drat, that's a shame!

Is it still feasible to change address to get round amazon's region restrictions? I have no idea how to get my hands on a US one.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


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Morbid Hound

General Battuta posted:

I have been ordered to say this by my publicist, I am sorry: if you like BARU please drop a review and rating on Amazon! For some stupid algorithmic reason the first couple reviews matter a lot to the book's future. Why she wants me to give this information to Something Awful I don't know

Also holy poo poo Declare is good, thank you to everyone who recommended it. Is Anubis Gates half as strong?

The way amazon's review voting system works, people read through the reviews till they hit one that sounds like it was written by someone with a brain, then they stop. So that prioritizes early reviews.

My next favorite Tim powers book after Declare is On Stranger Tides but I've been on a Caribbean pirate kick lately.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Let me know if you like it! I loved it but my reaction may not have been typical.

Rough Lobster
May 27, 2009

Don't be such a squid, bro
The Anubis Gates is good in a puppy way, but he just crams so much stuff in there that it can be a little much. Time travel, paradoxes, wolfmen, magic, cults, poetry... His other books have the supernatural elements but they're much more focused in how they're used.

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Kalman
Jan 17, 2010

General Battuta posted:

Also holy poo poo Declare is good, thank you to everyone who recommended it. Is Anubis Gates half as strong?

Declare is his best work, but I'd say everything he's written is worth the read. I'd agree that the Fault Line books are closest in quality, but nothing else quite has Declare's style.

I'm also a big fan of Three Days to Never, but I'd probably start with the fault line trilogy.

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