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Stymie
Jan 9, 2001

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
if any contradictory evidence is produced at all because so far all the evidence points to iphone 6 bending with normal use

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poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?

Stux posted:

*dorps mug on gorund, it shattedrs immediuately *

*startes at starbucksk barisita*

this is unancceptable.

med school head
Apr 17, 2012
all the worst posters are in this thread whaddyaknow

poty
Jun 21, 2008

虹はどこで終わるのですか? あなたの魂の中で、または地平線で?
i heard they had to change the aluminium for the 6s because testers phones would bend when trying to 3d touch stuff

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



zen death robot posted:

Starbucks uses paper and plastic cups

ahem its 7000 series aluminium now

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

Stux posted:

*dorps mug on gorund, it shattedrs immediuately *

*startes at starbucksk barisita*

this is unancceptable.

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

stux has been making some good posts

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Shaggar posted:

I doubt it because the iphone 6 bends with normal use, not just being sat on.

noitodoesnt

Stux
Nov 17, 2006


i canntbelibe that pshone screen smashed with nromal use - shaggar

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008

the iphone 6 seems to be more shatter-prone than the 5/5s but thats just my impression

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

THC posted:

the iphone 6 seems to be more shatter-prone than the 5/5s but thats just my impression

pehrhaps ur nex timpression could beposting well

cremnob
Jun 30, 2010

Apple Unifies Cloud Services Platform Amid Open-Source Push

Like other tech companies that run Web services, Apple has long relied on open source software. But unlike most others, Apple has largely done so secretly, hampering its hiring and causing other problems. Now some within Apple are hoping that is going to change.

The tech firm is developing a technology platform that can power all of its Web services, such as iCloud and iTunes, which have long run on separate tech platforms, say people briefed on the effort. The new platform is based on the one Apple developed to run Siri which uses open-source infrastructure software called Mesos.

Apple this summer decided to move forward with the new unified platform, although it will take a least a couple of years to implement. The system will be what’s called an “orchestrated infrastructure” that has the ability, among other things, to run Internet applications inside “containers,” which make it easier to scale the apps and make changes to them on the fly, one of these people says.

Engineering manager Patrick Gates, who is overseeing the effort, has taken much of the Siri engineering team under his wing in order to run this new cloud infrastructure group. (Mr. Gates works in an org led by Internet services chief Eddy Cue.) An Apple spokeswoman did not have comment for this article.

The single platform is designed to fix difficulties of integrating the Web services with one another and help some, like iCloud, roll out new features, something that’s been a challenge. But what may be more significant is how it affects Apple’s interaction with the open-source software community. Engineers inside Apple hope the new unified platform will give them more political clout to break the culture of secrecy around its use of open source software.

Apple has been trying to gain expertise in open-source software that powers the world’s top Internet services. Increasing Apple’s ties to the open-source community will help the company recruit open source engineers that it needs to build better Web services and avoid the kind of technical missteps it’s had with products like iCloud.

Open Secret

As Siri demonstrates, engineers at Apple have increasingly relied on open-source software projects in order to develop Internet apps the way true Web companies like Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook do. But few of those have been officially disclosed by the company. Most of them are overseen by the non-profit Apache Software Foundation. (See the list at the bottom of this article for some that Apple hasn’t discussed before.)

Among the few that Apple has been talked about publicly are Hadoop, which is data-analysis software, and Mesos, which allows developers to run thousands of containers on the same cluster of Web servers, for Siri; and Solr, which aids in the searching and indexing of text-based data, for Siri, Maps, and the iTunes store. Apple has contributed code to, and talked about its use of, Cassandra, which is a “distributed” database management system to handle structured data. (The group of engineers who provide Cassandra to various Apple Web services also fall under Mr. Gates.)

In the past, Apple has also open sourced older technologies like WebKit for Web browsers and contributed to LLVM, a “compiler” that helps developers produce basic code. It also recently joined the Open Compute Project, a group dedicated to sharing data center hardware designs, but it isn’t actually required to share information.

None of Apple’s open-source usage is surprising because it’s what all major Web companies are doing. But Apple has made a special effort of keeping most of it quiet, for reasons that go back to Steve Jobs and the priorities of its communications and product marketing groups. They believed that Apple’s products and top executives should be the primary public stars of the company, and that it’s generally nobody else’s business to know what kind of tech Apple uses. And, culturally, Apple at its core is still a device and operating system company, not a Web-services company.

This means that Apple employees attending Web technology conferences often aren’t allowed to be identified as Apple employees or present some of their technical learnings, even if it can help them recruit engineers.

Apple sometimes requires engineers submitting code to open-source products to do so through a third party rather than let Apple be affiliated with the code. One person who’s been through the process says they felt that submitting code to an open-source project like Mesos or Hadoop is generally “frowned upon” by managers at Apple. But the process has gotten easier over time, people who have participated in the process say.

Like many other conservative companies, Apple tried to talk to the Apache Foundation about making changes to its licensing terms in order to protect Apple contributions. To no avail. Part of Apple’s fear is that if outsiders know what kind of open source tech it’s using for specific products, that might make it harder to bring legal claims against people who infringe on the IP of those products.

These practices have been a drag on Apple in term of recruiting. The company has consistently tried to hire some of the best coders involved with open source tech, but in most cases those coders have refused, say people who’ve been involved in the efforts. That’s because in the open source world, engineers want to contribute code back to the community, with their name on it. It’s like a résumé-builder. (It’s how Apple found such potential recruits in the first place.)

Signs of Change

Still, there have been signs of change. In April, Bill Stasior, who joined Apple to lead Siri from Amazon.com three years ago, took the rare step of permitting two Siri engineers to disclose in a public engineering “meetup” at Apple’s headquarters that Siri was using Mesos software. That disclosure, which quickly made headlines in the tech blogosphere, disappointed some in the company’s product marketing group, which apparently hadn’t given its blessing ahead of time, says one person briefed on the matter.

The Mesos disclosure came days before the launch of the Apple Watch, where Siri plays a key role. After the launch, conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh made reference on his show to the “new back end that Apple’s used” to improve Siri, causing more consternation among Apple’s messaging minders over the initial Mesos disclosure, this person says. Since then, Apple has embraced its association with Mesos, and Siri engineers made another presentation at a recent Mesos-focused conference in Seattle.

Now, the hope is that Mr. Gates can usher in a new era of solidarity among Apple’s Web-infrastructure engineers and break down some of the restrictions on their participation in the open source community.

Selected open-source technology and support that’s used (but not necessarily disclosed) by Apple for its Web products:

• The standard Hadoop stack (for storing and processing large data sets) is used for things like Apple Maps, Apple Music and iTunes store recommendations and search. The stack includes HDFS, MapReduce and Zookeeper. Apple has a support contract with Cloudera, a firm that helps companies use Hadoop, according to two people with direct knowledge.

• HBase, a type of database that sits on top of Hadoop. It helps power Apple Maps, Siri and Apple Music.

• Elasticsearch, which helps with search indexing for Apple Maps

• Riak, a kind of “NoSQL” database, was used to develop iMessage.

• Kafka, which is known as a “message” system that helps process “streams” of data generated by Web services and can help with things like Web-search indexing. It was used by a startup called Topsy that Apple bought and integrated into its “spotlight” search feature, one person says. It’s also used by Apple Maps and Apple Music.

• Azkaban, known as a “job scheduler” that helps developers visually schedule tasks involving processing big data.

• Voldemort, a type of database.

https://www.theinformation.com/apple-unifies-cloud-services-platform-amid-open-source-push

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

cremnob posted:

• The standard Hadoop stack (for storing and processing large data sets) is used for things like Apple Maps, Apple Music and iTunes store recommendations and search. The stack includes HDFS, MapReduce and Zookeeper. Apple has a support contract with Cloudera, a firm that helps companies use Hadoop, according to two people with direct knowledge.

oh hey isn't that the toucharcade guy

Penguissimo
Apr 7, 2007

zen death robot posted:

I didn't read that huge text dump because cremnob posted it

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



gas

Kenny Logins
Jan 11, 2011

EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A WHITE WHALE INTO THE PEQUOD. IT'S HELL'S HEART AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I STRIKE AT THEE ALONGSIDE WITH THE MAIN CHARACTER, ISHMAEL.

zen death robot posted:

I didn't read that huge text dump partly because it was too long and mostly because cremnob posted it

Puppy Galaxy
Aug 1, 2004

cremnob posted:

Apple Unifies Cloud Services Platform Amid Open-Source Push

Like other tech companies that run Web services, Apple has long relied on open source software. But unlike most others, Apple has largely done so secretly, hampering its hiring and causing other problems. Now some within Apple are hoping that is going to change.

The tech firm is developing a technology platform that can power all of its Web services, such as iCloud and iTunes, which have long run on separate tech platforms, say people briefed on the effort. The new platform is based on the one Apple developed to run Siri which uses open-source infrastructure software called Mesos.

Apple this summer decided to move forward with the new unified platform, although it will take a least a couple of years to implement. The system will be what’s called an “orchestrated infrastructure” that has the ability, among other things, to run Internet applications inside “containers,” which make it easier to scale the apps and make changes to them on the fly, one of these people says.

Engineering manager Patrick Gates, who is overseeing the effort, has taken much of the Siri engineering team under his wing in order to run this new cloud infrastructure group. (Mr. Gates works in an org led by Internet services chief Eddy Cue.) An Apple spokeswoman did not have comment for this article.

The single platform is designed to fix difficulties of integrating the Web services with one another and help some, like iCloud, roll out new features, something that’s been a challenge. But what may be more significant is how it affects Apple’s interaction with the open-source software community. Engineers inside Apple hope the new unified platform will give them more political clout to break the culture of secrecy around its use of open source software.

Apple has been trying to gain expertise in open-source software that powers the world’s top Internet services. Increasing Apple’s ties to the open-source community will help the company recruit open source engineers that it needs to build better Web services and avoid the kind of technical missteps it’s had with products like iCloud.

Open Secret

As Siri demonstrates, engineers at Apple have increasingly relied on open-source software projects in order to develop Internet apps the way true Web companies like Twitter, LinkedIn and Facebook do. But few of those have been officially disclosed by the company. Most of them are overseen by the non-profit Apache Software Foundation. (See the list at the bottom of this article for some that Apple hasn’t discussed before.)

Among the few that Apple has been talked about publicly are Hadoop, which is data-analysis software, and Mesos, which allows developers to run thousands of containers on the same cluster of Web servers, for Siri; and Solr, which aids in the searching and indexing of text-based data, for Siri, Maps, and the iTunes store. Apple has contributed code to, and talked about its use of, Cassandra, which is a “distributed” database management system to handle structured data. (The group of engineers who provide Cassandra to various Apple Web services also fall under Mr. Gates.)

In the past, Apple has also open sourced older technologies like WebKit for Web browsers and contributed to LLVM, a “compiler” that helps developers produce basic code. It also recently joined the Open Compute Project, a group dedicated to sharing data center hardware designs, but it isn’t actually required to share information.

None of Apple’s open-source usage is surprising because it’s what all major Web companies are doing. But Apple has made a special effort of keeping most of it quiet, for reasons that go back to Steve Jobs and the priorities of its communications and product marketing groups. They believed that Apple’s products and top executives should be the primary public stars of the company, and that it’s generally nobody else’s business to know what kind of tech Apple uses. And, culturally, Apple at its core is still a device and operating system company, not a Web-services company.

This means that Apple employees attending Web technology conferences often aren’t allowed to be identified as Apple employees or present some of their technical learnings, even if it can help them recruit engineers.

Apple sometimes requires engineers submitting code to open-source products to do so through a third party rather than let Apple be affiliated with the code. One person who’s been through the process says they felt that submitting code to an open-source project like Mesos or Hadoop is generally “frowned upon” by managers at Apple. But the process has gotten easier over time, people who have participated in the process say.

Like many other conservative companies, Apple tried to talk to the Apache Foundation about making changes to its licensing terms in order to protect Apple contributions. To no avail. Part of Apple’s fear is that if outsiders know what kind of open source tech it’s using for specific products, that might make it harder to bring legal claims against people who infringe on the IP of those products.

These practices have been a drag on Apple in term of recruiting. The company has consistently tried to hire some of the best coders involved with open source tech, but in most cases those coders have refused, say people who’ve been involved in the efforts. That’s because in the open source world, engineers want to contribute code back to the community, with their name on it. It’s like a résumé-builder. (It’s how Apple found such potential recruits in the first place.)

Signs of Change

Still, there have been signs of change. In April, Bill Stasior, who joined Apple to lead Siri from Amazon.com three years ago, took the rare step of permitting two Siri engineers to disclose in a public engineering “meetup” at Apple’s headquarters that Siri was using Mesos software. That disclosure, which quickly made headlines in the tech blogosphere, disappointed some in the company’s product marketing group, which apparently hadn’t given its blessing ahead of time, says one person briefed on the matter.

The Mesos disclosure came days before the launch of the Apple Watch, where Siri plays a key role. After the launch, conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh made reference on his show to the “new back end that Apple’s used” to improve Siri, causing more consternation among Apple’s messaging minders over the initial Mesos disclosure, this person says. Since then, Apple has embraced its association with Mesos, and Siri engineers made another presentation at a recent Mesos-focused conference in Seattle.

Now, the hope is that Mr. Gates can usher in a new era of solidarity among Apple’s Web-infrastructure engineers and break down some of the restrictions on their participation in the open source community.

Selected open-source technology and support that’s used (but not necessarily disclosed) by Apple for its Web products:

• The standard Hadoop stack (for storing and processing large data sets) is used for things like Apple Maps, Apple Music and iTunes store recommendations and search. The stack includes HDFS, MapReduce and Zookeeper. Apple has a support contract with Cloudera, a firm that helps companies use Hadoop, according to two people with direct knowledge.

• HBase, a type of database that sits on top of Hadoop. It helps power Apple Maps, Siri and Apple Music.

• Elasticsearch, which helps with search indexing for Apple Maps

• Riak, a kind of “NoSQL” database, was used to develop iMessage.

• Kafka, which is known as a “message” system that helps process “streams” of data generated by Web services and can help with things like Web-search indexing. It was used by a startup called Topsy that Apple bought and integrated into its “spotlight” search feature, one person says. It’s also used by Apple Maps and Apple Music.

• Azkaban, known as a “job scheduler” that helps developers visually schedule tasks involving processing big data.

• Voldemort, a type of database.

https://www.theinformation.com/apple-unifies-cloud-services-platform-amid-open-source-push

shut up

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

Vintersorg posted:

my iphone 5 is almost in perfect condition [...] bottom corner cracked a bit [...] on the screen


wow sounds like its basically brand new

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

IT IS HARAAM TO SEND SMILEY FACES THROUGH THE INTERNET
devops poo poo have the dumbest fuckin names

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

Define" Normal Use"

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



Dislike button posted:

wow sounds like its basically brand new

ill help you out

"almost in"

as in it ALMOST could be aside from that cracked glass

no scratches, dings, dents or anything

just like how you ALMOST burned me but fell short

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

echinopsis posted:



once sagebrush made an excellent point

lol

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Triglav posted:

devops poo poo have the dumbest fuckin names

"i know, we'll make everything cooking-themed, that way nothing can be googled"

pram
Jun 10, 2001

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
see codeing is like writing recipes, but for a computer

DaNzA
Sep 11, 2001

:D
Grimey Drawer

EMILY BLUNTS posted:

Define" Normal Use"

like applying almost a hundred pound or more of force to them is pretty normal if they don't care about the device and just put it in their back pocket and sit on them

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



remember when that one guy tried to sell a "mint except for a big crack" nexus 5 for more than new retail on sa mart?

med school head
Apr 17, 2012

Endless Mike posted:

remember when that one guy tried to sell a "mint except for a big crack" nexus 5 for more than new retail on sa mart?

no ireally dont

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



thankfully im not selling this and just giving it to the man

but hey lets sperg over my unproper way of saying things

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
quote this post if you want to see shaggar and cremnob fight to the death in an arena.

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮

Wild EEPROM posted:

quote this post if you want to see shaggar and cremnob fight to the death in an arena.

pram
Jun 10, 2001
two men enter, no man leaves (mercifully)

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
"men"

pram
Jun 10, 2001
throw in stymie for good measure. baby, you got a thunderdome going

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx
was gonna get new macbook but now am thinking iPad Pro instead

* got turbo desktop already and work is increasingly cloud, a terminal and a browser is pretty much all I use on the go these days
* iPad will be about the same size and weight with a lot more battery life and a lot less maintenance hassle
* wife and I have all personal docs in iWork, media on a server that we AirPlay to our TVs (music, photos, videos etc)
* I fart around in Procreate all the time and love it even though it's hobbled by janky stylus support, iPad Pro stylus should be 100x better and Adobe/Autodesk could do some really cool poo poo with it (although software selection and pen will both be a lot better next year in v2)
* iOS9 multitasking looks smartly designed and is probably 95% fine for what I need on mobile (e.g. not 6 screens worth of code, consoles, charts, logs etc)

in short iPad Pro is a land of Suits My Needs - I think

who else is getting in on this

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
I'm probably getting in on v2 when my macbook finally dies

skeevy achievements
Feb 25, 2008

by merry exmarx
don't count on it, my MBP still going strong on 900 cycles and 6.5+ years

Silver Alicorn
Mar 30, 2008

𝓪 𝓻𝓮𝓭 𝓹𝓪𝓷𝓭𝓪 𝓲𝓼 𝓪 𝓬𝓾𝓻𝓲𝓸𝓾𝓼 𝓼𝓸𝓻𝓽 𝓸𝓯 𝓬𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓽𝓾𝓻𝓮
yeah my macbook turned 8 this year

it still does all the skype and youtube and stuff I need, also remote desktop and steam streaming have extended its usefulness a lot

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power botton
Nov 2, 2011

just get a macbook in gold you bitch idiot

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