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Tommofork posted:I think the ending of DoD is when one of the Malazan captains reveals he can somehow don armour of ice just like a stormrider can, and that he used to roll with Greymane. I'm not sure how he could do it. Ruthan Gudd.
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Tommofork posted:I haven't read the ICE books, but there's a lot of references to Malazans manning some kind of wall against the Stormriders. I wouldn't really call it spoilers as it's not really a secret that spoils anything, it's just part of the world, like Jaghut roaming around. People manning the wall are considered to be bad asses and it's apparently very rare for them to stop and be sent to other duties. I get the feeling there is a bigger story behind Captain Faradan Sort, the captain formerly of the wall, but I don't know what it is. Was it manned by the Malazans? I thought it was manned by recruits specifically for the wall or criminals mainly since I remember it being a big deal that Sort had served on the wall. I could be completely wrong though. Tommofork posted:God drat I read that book like a month ago and it's already vague and hazy, I can't even remember his name. Ruthan Gudd
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mornhaven posted:Was it manned by the Malazans? I thought it was manned by recruits specifically for the wall or criminals mainly since I remember it being a big deal that Sort had served on the wall. I could be completely wrong though. If I remember right Korel would use prisoners of war to man the wall along with their military, I think Sort mentions to Ruthan at some point she fought three links from Greymane. Also I think there was a part where Traveller, I think in RotCG being chained up and escaping the stormwall, I could be wrong. Jack Ketch fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Sep 15, 2015 |
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Sep 15, 2015 00:40
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mornhaven posted:Was it manned by the Malazans? I thought it was manned by recruits specifically for the wall or criminals mainly since I remember it being a big deal that Sort had served on the wall. I could be completely wrong though. No it was manned by the Korelri, who the Malazans were apparently unable to conquer previously.
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Jack Ketch posted:Also I think there was a part where Traveller, I think in RotCG being chained up and escaping the stormwall, I could be wrong. Thats Bars. IRON BARS. And now we know why they call you Iron Bars. Ugh. The best throwaway line is when Ruthann has the light bulb go off about Quick Ben and thinks its pretty funny how he is now a Malazan squad mage.
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Spermy Smurf posted:Thats Bars. IRON BARS. And now we know why they call you Iron Bars. No Traveller was on the wall in RotCG (well really it was after he escaped). Iron Bars was on the wall in Stonewielder.
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Sep 15, 2015 01:48
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poo poo. Yeah, you are right. The random toblaiki carries him away right?
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Spermy Smurf posted:poo poo. Yeah, you are right. The random toblaiki carries him away right? Yup, can't remember how to spell his name off the top of my head. But they were both (Traveller and Iron Bars) considered champions of the wall if I recall correctly.
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Spermy Smurf posted:poo poo. Yeah, you are right. The random toblaiki carries him away right? Sort of - Ereko (?), the last of the Thel Akai, who I may be misremembering but were possibly the precursors of the Toblakai?
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Sep 15, 2015 06:54
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Is it ever explained who/what Ruthan Gudd is?
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Thanks for the name thread, but I think you should spoiler stuff about him for first time readers. There's a long burn between his introduction and when poo poo starts happening. e: also thanks for the stuff about the wall. I don't want to read ICE but that was interesting! Erikson kept on referencing a disastrous Malazan campaign in Koreli and Greymane but it was never really explained what was going on.
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Eschatos posted:Is it ever explained who/what Ruthan Gudd is?  .
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Eschatos posted:Is it ever explained who/what Ruthan Gudd is? No, but fan theory is he's the missing Elder God
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He said that if he met Draconus one of them would die so he is a pretty big force.
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Ethiser posted:He said that if he met Draconus one of them would die so he is a pretty big force. Not necessarily. You don't need to be a pretty big force to get killed by Draconus.
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Sep 16, 2015 01:14
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Hood's posse of hilarious Jag jerks might be my favorite faction to show up in this end stretch.
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Ruthan Gudd is definitely on my list of characters I came to like the more I learned about them, similar to Lostara Yil.
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Illinois Smith posted:Hood's posse of hilarious Jag jerks might be my favorite faction to show up in this end stretch. They were one of my favorite parts of the series. Easily as good at times as some of the sapper exchanges variously throughout the books and even sometimes on par with Tehol/Bugg.
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I don't know, the sappers exchanges are the best ha.
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Sep 16, 2015 20:03
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Another underappreciated pair: Kindly and Pores.
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anilEhilated posted:Another underappreciated pair: Kindly and Pores. This one took some time to grow on me, but I agree: it's under-rated.
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No love for the best Malazan soldier, Nefarias Bredd? I heard he killed eighteen raiders in one night.
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I can't not see Kurtwood Smith as Kindly.
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rejutka posted:I can't not see Kurtwood Smith as Kindly. For some reason I imagine Gene Hackman.
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anilEhilated posted:Another underappreciated pair: Kindly and Pores. One of my favourite lines was Faradan Sort remarking that Kindly was lucky to have someone like Pores to match wits with. 
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The comb scene had me laughing. I don't even remember what book it was in, but it was unexpected and handled rather well, imo.
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I'm reading The Crippled God and I've been avoiding this thread like the plague for the last couple years. I had trouble getting through Dust of Dreams. I'd get 1/4 of the way through and just put it down and never pick it back up. I started doing audiobooks a couple months ago and now I'm halfway through TCG and I just got to the part where quick Ben wakes up Kalam and I have the biggest smile on my face because I know the party is about to start. I love this series.
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Daric posted:I'm reading The Crippled God and I've been avoiding this thread like the plague for the last couple years. I had trouble getting through Dust of Dreams. I'd get 1/4 of the way through and just put it down and never pick it back up. I started doing audiobooks a couple months ago and now I'm halfway through TCG and I just got to the part where quick Ben wakes up Kalam and I have the biggest smile on my face because I know the party is about to start. I love this series. I had a hard time with TCG, too. It just reached this point where it was kind of depressing for me (but it's supposed to be I feel like). But it really does pick up.
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I can understanding DoD being hard going, but holy poo poo the ending goes nuts. TtH is the same. I put down TCG when I started a new job and got to playing bloodborne. I've got to pick it up again before I forget everything from this read through and have to start again.
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Daric posted:I just got to the part where quick Ben wakes up Kalam and I have the biggest smile on my face because I know the party is about to start.
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I'm on my second read through and just got to the part where the regulars salute the marines and heavies as they march out. I remembered TCG was good, but I had forgotten just how good.
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Fenrir posted:For some reason I imagine Gene Hackman. Circa Unforgiven, yeah, I can see that too.
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Also, (Reaper's Gale) had the most depressing loving ending ever. WHY. WHY DID YOU KILL TRULL oh my loving god, he slaughtered Toc and Trull in the same book and all I ever wanted was for those two to come out of this, somehow. But no. They cut off Toc's second face and that horrible bastard shoved a knife into Trull's back, and he was the loving hero of the Edur. Why Steven  Why do you have to take away all the characters I love The loss of whiskeyjack is nothing compared to this.. this really hurt
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If it's any consolation, it gets worse
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I agree, I think somehow the death of Trull Sengar is emotionally one of the hardest punches the books ever throw. The end of Midnight Tides also hits me quite badly.
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I always let out an evil chuckle when people pity Toc and they're not at the end of the series.
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Shockeh posted:I agree, I think somehow the death of Trull Sengar is emotionally one of the hardest punches the books ever throw. The end of Midnight Tides also hits me quite badly. Well, yeah. Exiled from his people because he dared to speak out against what they were becoming, making one of the best buddy friendships in the series, being such a martial bad rear end that he held Icarium for a time while wounded after fighting only to protect Minala's Shadow child soldiers, choosing to let a summoned daemon get away with tricking him to go home because he understood, being such a stand up guy that he impressed T'lan Imass, kicking the poo poo out of Clip after Clip was all "I'm the mortal sword of the Black-Winged Lord and lol spears guys are chumps", going back for Rhulad to try to help him when any sane person would've ran. He'd just found love and was going to get married and have a son. And he dies stabbed in the back by a complete piece of poo poo because the Errant just loves his loving pathos. In closing, gently caress Errastas so much.
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Fenrir posted:Also, (Reaper's Gale) had the most depressing loving ending ever. WHY. WHY DID YOU KILL TRULL oh my loving god, he slaughtered Toc and Trull in the same book and all I ever wanted was for those two to come out of this, somehow. But no. They cut off Toc's second face and that horrible bastard shoved a knife into Trull's back, and he was the loving hero of the Edur. Why Steven Yeah but on the other hand Karsa chumping Rhulad like a supreme metal badass and then telling the Crippled God to gently caress himself was boss as hell.
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rejutka posted:Yeah but on the other hand Karsa chumping Rhulad like a supreme metal badass and then telling the Crippled God to gently caress himself was boss as hell. That was really the only consolation to be had out of Reaper's Gale. The rest was just pain  Seriously I loving cried when Trull died. I can't even remember the last time I cried reading a book. Maybe when Flint died in Dragonlance 30 years ago. DON'T YOU PITY HIM, FID. YOU UNDERSTAND ME? DON'T YOU PITY HIM! Fenrir fucked around with this message at 15:31 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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