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On the Social Security means testing thing... Isn't that just something that would have no significant effect but is championed by republicans because it makes them seem sort of compassionate while making Social Security more of an actual tax that they can rail against and try to get rid of completely?
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This just might be the dumbest political ad ever made. What's next, "He kept New Orleans dry"?
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Sep 17, 2015 17:34
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Sardonik posted:Jeb! You unbelievable glorious idiot. Everything about this is terrible. "He kept us safe" sounds something a victim of an abusive relationship would say. If you've ever read Finder by Carla Speed McNeil, this is literally what the abusive husband in that series did -- he gaslighted his own family into isolation and confinement by telling them repeatedly how dangerous the outside world was and how the husband was the only one keeping his family safe from the horrors out there. I really recommend the books, btw
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Sep 17, 2015 17:35
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Bung Dan @swarthyvillain 21m21 minutes ago @JebBush thats a picture of him at a place he didn't keep safe pal lmao
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Top Bunk Wanker posted:He gave the most appealing possible answer to that question, I thought. Nobody reasonable can argue with "well, you paid in, so if you want your money back you should get it... but do you really need it, I mean come on." I've brought it up a few times since Trump did that because it's really important in a subtle way. Applying means-testing to Social Security would be the first step toward framing Social Security as a welfare program. After that's done, it could be painted as a program for leeches and welfare-queens, and treated as poorly as most social welfare programs are currently treated by Republicans. By refusing to say he wants means-testing, it's a tell that he's aware of that and doesn't want that to happen. It's one of the tells of Trump's true beliefs that makes me super extremely curious what he would start saying if he had to pivot his message for a general election. NotWearingPants posted:On the Social Security means testing thing... Isn't that just something that would have no significant effect but is championed by republicans because it makes them seem sort of compassionate while making Social Security more of an actual tax that they can rail against and try to get rid of completely? My response covers this as well. Means-testing Social Security would be a back-door way of eventually crippling it. XK fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Sep 17, 2015 |
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Sep 17, 2015 17:37
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Holy poo poo, I thought someone made that add to make fun of James Ellis Bush Bush.
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lol @ all the comments absolutely nobody is buying this poo poo
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mlmp08 posted:That's a photoshop though, right? 100% true Next he will be saying W kept New Orleans dry
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Sep 17, 2015 17:40
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:the highlight is definitely bush demanding an apology, trump just saying no, and jeb dropping it immediately. and then being super excited to high five trump later and joking around about their cool nicknames. its kind of amazing how much trump just dominates everybody else on stage, only one that managed to stand up to him was carly Bush Sr. was awkward as hell on the campaign trail in ways that resemble Jeb more than W. Does anyone remember his response to the question of what he thought about when his plane was shot down in WW2? "You go back to your fundamental values. I thought about Mom and Dad and the strength I got from them. I thought about God and the separation of church and state." The separation of Church and State is what anyone would think of while plummeting into the Pacific Ocean. Nixon would have Trump murdered and frame the Chinese.
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Sep 17, 2015 17:41
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where can I get some of that superweed that killed Carly's kid?
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Sep 17, 2015 17:42
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If you had told me earlier that, at a republican debate, a candidate would simultaneously acknowledge Andrew Jackson as a horrible person AND angle for putting -anyone- from the civil rights movement on our money, i'd have called you crazy. God bless Trump.
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Sep 17, 2015 17:46
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zen death robot posted:Hahhaa holy poo poo I didn't expect Jeb! to run full steam ahead by holding up his brother as an example to follow. This is legit one of the dumbest things I've seen in a long time, and Jeb! gets exactly what he deserves if he takes this and runs with it. I thought he was supposed to be the smart brother?
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Riosan posted:This is legit one of the dumbest things I've seen in a long time, and Jeb! gets exactly what he deserves if he takes this and runs with it. I thought he was supposed to be the smart brother? Does Rudy Giuliani have a brother
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Sep 17, 2015 17:51
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Narciss posted:Then it'd just be Moot Finally Hatsune no Miku will be on ten dollar bill.
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Sep 17, 2015 17:53
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Kurt_Cobain posted:The Thatcher on the 10 line should be driving the nwo illuminati people crazy right about now. Nothing yet, but they'll probably get to it.  CNN’s three-hour debate from hell GOP Debate Post-Mortem: Trump Top, Fiorina Flourish, Carson Crumbles
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Sep 17, 2015 17:54
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Wow Jeb is tone deaf I thought it was fake. I understand him not getting how much people hate his bro because its not happening in the family and friends sphere but he has to at least be aware of how people feel about what could be considered one of the worst administrations ever.
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Sep 17, 2015 17:54
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Winkie01 posted:
Nah, he means his brother kept "us", the Bush clan, safe. From prosecution, I presume.
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Sep 17, 2015 17:56
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Just for good measure, someone queue up the clip of Rumsfeld explaining to soldiers why they can't have adequate armour in a war zone.
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Sep 17, 2015 18:03
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Totalizator posted:RNC hires a hispanic assasin before the convention when Trump's victory seems inevitable, tries to frame the cartels. This would obviously backfire. If they didn't succeed in killing him, Trump wouldn't shut up about how the cartels are terrified of him and his yooge wall. If they succeeded, Trump would be a martyr. Which is to say the RNC is definitely going to try this. Xenophon posted:Cruz's new schtick is an ad comparing ISIS to scorpions. I'm not sure why he thinks scorpions "seek out destruction." If this is the first step in creating a real life Brotherhood of NOD, I'm all for it.
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Sep 17, 2015 18:03
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TheTatteredKing posted:Wow Jeb is tone deaf I thought it was fake. I understand him not getting how much people hate his bro because its not happening in the family and friends sphere but he has to at least be aware of how people feel about what could be considered one of the worst administrations ever. George W. Bush has a pretty high favorability rating at the moment, I don't think it's particularly dumb to bring him up a bit as long as it's not enough to get peoples memories churning about stuff like Iraq, Katrina or the economic collapse. People don't hate him like they did when he left office. Also, very few Americans blame Bush for 9/11 and most view him as handling it very well, especially among the Republican base Jeb is trying to get support from.
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Sep 17, 2015 18:09
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They will if Jeb! keeps bringing him up in debates
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Sep 17, 2015 18:10
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Someone posted pictures of Rand Paul with his 14.5% flat tax plan. I didn't realise that was real- I thought that was someone taking a poo poo on him by photoshopping him into some Steve Forbes campaign stuff.
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Sep 17, 2015 18:11
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DaveWoo posted:lol @ all the comments Is this getting any traction outside of Twitter? I remember during all of the 00's, it was absolutely sacrilege to say he didn't keep us safe on 9/11, it was bizarre. It seems like here, 14 years later, people are finally allowed to say "No, he hosed up pretty hardcore."
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Sep 17, 2015 18:15
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:George W. Bush has a pretty high favorability rating at the moment, I don't think it's particularly dumb to bring him up a bit as long as it's not enough to get peoples memories churning about stuff like Iraq, Katrina or the economic collapse. People don't hate him like they did when he left office. Also, very few Americans blame Bush for 9/11 and most view him as handling it very well, especially among the Republican base Jeb is trying to get support from. I didn't realize his approval improved. But then insane tribalism is on the uptick and he's not Obama
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TheTatteredKing posted:I didn't realize his approval improved. But then insane tribalism is on the uptick and he's not Obama Every previous president gets a nostalgia boost. When the economy is bad you look back and think maybe it was better. If the economy is good, it's hard for you to hate the old guy.
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Sep 17, 2015 18:19
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Nouvelle Vague posted:Just a guess, but the fact that there were no major terrorist attacks after 9/11 (and people started paying attention to terrorism) is probably the reason. Dick Cheney says it regularly. quote:The usual Republican line is that Bush and Cheney “kept us safe,” full stop. The “he kept us safe” line has always been slightly tricky owing to the fact that foreign terrorist attacks killed more Americans during the Bush administration than every other presidency in history combined. The easiest way to handle this tiny fly in the ointment (and the related problems of Bush ignoring serious warnings of imminent attacks) is to pretend it never happened. To wit, Jeb Bush yesterday defended his brother’s administration like so: “Well, the successes clearly are protecting the homeland. We were under attack, and he brought — he unified the country and he showed dogged determination. And he kept us safe. The Republican party has basically retconned 9/11 as having happened while Bill Clinton was President.
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We're in a bubble here, is there any reliable accounting of the general reaction to the idea that "bush kept us safe"? I don't even think you should (or can) pin it on any one person not named Bin Laden, but to say Bush was blameless and did everything right is a whole other ballpark.
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Sep 17, 2015 18:21
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Bush knocked down the towers
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quote:Fox News' Bill Hemmer tried to get to the bottom of it when he debriefed with the former Florida governor Thursday morning on "America's Newsroom." 
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Nenonen posted:Nah, he means his brother kept "us", the Bush clan, safe. From prosecution, I presume. He was seriously probably like "But everyone clapped when I said it during the debate, so the people will love it in image form, too!" and then yep.
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Joementum posted:Dick Cheney says it regularly. And that idiot Obama with the mission accomplished banner on the aircraft carrier
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Sep 17, 2015 18:29
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DaveWoo posted:lol @ all the comments lol matt bors even drew a one panel for it
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It's probably the same phenomenon that shows in polls that 20ish % of people think Obama was President when the market crashed.
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Sep 17, 2015 18:34
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The debate had 23 million TV viewers and 4.5 million streaming viewers. Prior to last night, the most watched CNN program of all time was a Larry King Live show in 1993 with Ross Perot and Al Gore that got 16.8 million viewers.
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Patter Song posted:Bush Sr. was awkward as hell on the campaign trail in ways that resemble Jeb more than W. Does anyone remember his response to the question of what he thought about when his plane was shot down in WW2? Jesus, he even had a good answer, even if it was slightly stilted and awkward. Then he goes off on the separation of church and state. Even if Jeb possesses more book smarts than big brother, he sure as hell isn't a tenth of the politician. He is his father in miniature--aloof, patrician, and just so over this "appeal to the plebs for their support" thing.
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Sep 17, 2015 18:35
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What happened with Trump's request that CNN donate all profits from the debate to charity?
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Sep 17, 2015 18:36
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lol matt bors even drew a one panel for it Where? Where?!
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Sep 17, 2015 18:37
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https://vine.co/v/eUg9teiBPa5
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Where? Where?! https://medium.com/@MattBors/republican-debate-comics-6a9fff312e5c
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