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| Mio |
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26 | 18.18% |
| Yui |
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21 | 14.69% |
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| Mugi |
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49 | 34.27% |
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let's take a look at the players in the competitive scene for the last fighting game that was designed more for fans of the series than fighting game fans: jojo's bizarre adventure: all star battle *walks into an empty room*
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With my minimal fighting game knowledge I think my take on it is that I don't think user-friendliness and depth are mutually exclusive.
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Droyer posted:It is time for me to sleep. Good night thread! Good night, Droyer.
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Mintergalactic posted:let's take a look at the players in the competitive scene for the last fighting game that was designed more for fans of the series than fighting game fans: jojo's bizarre adventure: all star battle
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Sep 17, 2015 23:45
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Endorph posted:controversial opinion: i dont think every fighting game needs a competitive scene noncontroversial opinion: I do
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Mintergalactic posted:also why do you hate tekken so much anyway moonwalk, did heihachi kill your father or something everything about tekken's audio/visual design (besides the bear and Fat Bob) feels almost totally joyless and empty and unsatisfying, and hell even the bear doesnt do much to make it interesting once you get to actual gameplay. the combat isnt fun to play even once you understand the flailing retard style of input method & memorize it for your character, 3d fighters in general have a really hard time not being broken lovely rear end and tekken does basically nothing to try to deviate from that. i was gonna mention also that 3d juggle-combo mechanics are garbage almost universally but that actually just fits under the umbrella of 3d fighters being mostly poo poo the first sentence is my biggest problem with it but the other stuff doesnt help either
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Sep 17, 2015 23:46
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I mean ASB was bad even as a casual game because rounds lasted for loving ever, mind, but there have been plenty of decent naruto/dbz/bleach/whatever games that served as decent fanservice and were fun games to play, without having the depth to make for good competitive fighters, or having mechanics that made them hard to work with in a tournament environment.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:46
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Fighting games are cool and I think this includes 3d fighters.
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Mintergalactic posted:let's take a look at the players in the competitive scene for the last fighting game that was designed more for fans of the series than fighting game fans: jojo's bizarre adventure: all star battle counterpoint: nintendo additional counterpoint: pokemon, the second best selling video game franchise of all time
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Sep 17, 2015 23:47
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lesbian baphomet posted:everything about tekken's audio/visual design (besides the bear and Fat Bob) feels almost totally joyless and empty and unsatisfying
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Sep 17, 2015 23:47
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different fighting games are made for different people, I suppose I don't like 3d fighters either but I respect people who play tekken, just like I respect people who play dengeki bunko even though I hate them so much
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Sep 17, 2015 23:48
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 opinion: I don't care about persona 5.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:48
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More fighting game ignorance but I speak from a position where I am really into other types of competitive video games: I don't think every fighting game needs to have a big competitive scene or anything but having something to give it some staying power really goes a long way. If it's just a gimmick people will tire of it real fast. That said I think that because it's Nintendo it will be akin to Blizzard games ie in that it will have a group that will do their darndest to make it competitive whether it fits or not
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Sep 17, 2015 23:48
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Hey There
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i like iron king a whole lot also the boxing raptor
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Sep 17, 2015 23:49
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*slips on an invisible banana peel*
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Sep 17, 2015 23:49
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Srice posted:I don't think every fighting game needs to have a big competitive scene or anything but having something to give it some staying power really goes a long way. If it's just a gimmick people will tire of it real fast
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Srice posted:More fighting game ignorance but I speak from a position where I am really into other types of competitive video games: that'll be me ill be the one organizing tournaments
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Sep 17, 2015 23:49
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Sep 17, 2015 23:50
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hell i even respect people who play melee even though i think they have brain damage
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Sep 17, 2015 23:50
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Endorph posted:I mean ASB was bad even as a casual game because rounds lasted for loving ever, mind, but there have been plenty of decent naruto/dbz/bleach/whatever games that served as decent fanservice and were fun games to play, without having the depth to make for good competitive fighters, or having mechanics that made them hard to work with in a tournament environment. You're not wrong but a fighting game is always going to be better off if it's made with a competitive scene in mind, it helps sales both immediately and long term if it actually takes hold
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Sep 17, 2015 23:50
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Mintergalactic posted:hell i even respect people who play melee even though i think they have brain damage
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Sep 17, 2015 23:51
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Srice posted:More fighting game ignorance but I speak from a position where I am really into other types of competitive video games: Basically this
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Sep 17, 2015 23:51
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Endorph posted:melee is honestly a pretty cool competitive game and i wish more games tried to follow its example after evo i hate the melee scene so loving much
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Sep 17, 2015 23:51
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Endorph posted:melee is honestly a pretty cool competitive game and i wish more games tried to follow its example what example does melee set that other games should follow
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Sep 17, 2015 23:51
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this is amazing
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Sep 17, 2015 23:52
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i hate the evo tourney organizers even more why yes let's put guilty in the middle of the area that's been prone to smash overflow and not put it on a big screen even though we've been having loving mortal kombat on them all tourney
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Sep 17, 2015 23:52
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Smash would be more fun if it was like 4 people fighting on teams. 1v1 gameplay in smash is boring as hell to me
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Sep 17, 2015 23:52
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boom boom boom posted:Pacific Rim, Brain Powerd, RahXephon, Ideon, everything with a robot in it is an Evangelion ripoff. You dare not mention Bokurano around me? 
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Sep 17, 2015 23:53
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I don't understand the design philosophy behind melee but the series on a competitive level is completely foreign to me so I can't really judge it mechanically
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Mintergalactic posted:what example does melee set that other games should follow well for one it's popular
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the problem with a fighting game not having a competitive scene is that they're games that are built entirely around playing with other people. A multiplayer game can certainly still have a playerbase even if it's really bad competitively (for example every halo game since the xbox 360), but it becomes harder and harder to do that the more niche your audience becomes. and fighting games are these days an insanely niche audience that usually only get widespread players when they incorporate popular stuff like Nintendo so pokken has a chance, competitive scene or not. but its hard to say, like i have no idea how many modern fans of pokemon even know it exists
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Sep 17, 2015 23:54
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competitive melee is bs
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Mintergalactic posted:what example does melee set that other games should follow p. much every other fighting game ever made is 'two people in a 2d or 3d plane hitting each other until one of their health bars reaches zero.' like melee or not the way percentages and knockback work obviously totally change the way the game plays and lead to gameplay that is totally unique to it. Obviously that's boiling something down to its most very basic description and there's tons of differences between other fighting games, duh, but I wish more people were willing to think outside the box.
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Sep 17, 2015 23:54
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it's not that I don't want pokken to succeed with whatever it's trying to do, it's just that I won't be playing it probably
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everythingWasBees posted:i like iron king a whole lot alex is cool
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if your version of the game requires not using 90% of the features of the game why even bother
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lesbian baphomet posted:the problem with a fighting game not having a competitive scene is that they're games that are built entirely around playing with other people. A multiplayer game can certainly still have a playerbase even if it's really bad competitively (for example every halo game since the xbox 360), but it becomes harder and harder to do that the more niche your audience becomes. and fighting games are these days an insanely niche audience that usually only get widespread players when they incorporate popular stuff like Nintendo most modern pokemon fans, young or not, follow online news pretty heavily because that's the only way we find out about poo poo something like 75%+ of modern fans know about it i'd be willing to say
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Davincie posted:if your version of the game requires not using 90% of the features of the game why even bother
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