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Rosoboronexport posted:Semiaccurate predicts financial changes for AMD. I know, Semiaccurate, yadda yadda, grain of salt, but what will be spun off/sold to Samsung? A $1,000 paywall to learn that AMD is, leik, so ded? What did their analysis say?
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PC LOAD LETTER posted:I doubt Samsung wants any part of AMD. I doubt that Intel is interested in the GPU stuff. In the integrated GPU space, they've got a cadence of high quality stuff coming out each release and probably don't need it. I wouldn't think they'd want to enter the discrete GPU space appealing to enthusiasts, when they already have good integrated offerings
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Aug 20, 2015 16:30
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A Bad King posted:A $1,000 paywall to learn that AMD is, leik, so ded? "Major financial changes" Layoffs essentially.
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Aug 20, 2015 17:59
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Boiled Water posted:"Major financial changes" I thought we knew this back in July?
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Aug 20, 2015 18:59
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Semiaccurate: incredibly late news and incredibly stupid analysis. Subscribe now!
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Aug 20, 2015 19:10
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Does AMD have anyone left to layoff?
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Aug 20, 2015 19:20
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Rastor posted:Semiaccurate: incredibly late news and incredibly stupid analysis. Subscribe now! Only $1,000. God drat. And their writing style is absolute garbage, full of inaccuracies and typos, at least on his Intel burn piece I just read.
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Aug 20, 2015 19:36
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How reliable is Fudzilla? Is AMD about to be Bain Capital'd?
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Sep 9, 2015 12:42
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fudzilla is in a constant race with wccftech in how many things wrong they can get so not very
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Sep 9, 2015 14:50
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Well, Another hit-or-miss news site suggests something is behind it, so it at least has a drop of credibility.
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Sep 9, 2015 15:59
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The funny thing about SA is that it seems like when they do get accurate inside information they take it and run off in whatever the most sensational direction is
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Sep 9, 2015 16:17
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Big reorganization announced at AMD. It looks like all their graphics things are going to be under one group instead of reporting to multiple executives: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9612/amd-reorganizes-graphics-division-radeon-whole-once-more-led-by-raja-koduri That with the cash infusion makes it a pretty interesting day for Red.
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Sep 9, 2015 21:03
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If AMD isn't about to be gutted, then they've clearly presented something compelling for a 20% buyout from Silver Lake. Also, Silver Lake owns part of Dell, so maybe AMD is also getting a more secure OEM for desktop, OEM and someone to start adding Freesync to monitors?
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Sep 10, 2015 06:44
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If Dell were to make the idiotic move to become AMD-only, and I doubt they would, then in fairly certain my company would look for a new desktop/workstation vendor for its employees. For the particular computation-intensive products I work on, the performance difference skews heavily in Intel's favor as well for supposedly comparable CPUs.
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Now is actually a great time to invest in AMD if you think Zen has even a chance of being an adequate product. A 20% stake in AMD would only cost around $300M which really isn't that much for an equity firm. They've also got the inside track on one of the largest pc vendors around who, as long as Zen is adequate, should be able to sell some units. Also, this paired with AMD's recent reorg has my  tingling. If Zen ends up not working out maybe Silverlake walks away with a new in-house GPU division for Dell...
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SpelledBackwards posted:If Dell were to make the idiotic move to become AMD-only, and I doubt they would, then in fairly certain my company would look for a new desktop/workstation vendor for its employees. Wasn't particularly thinking about Construction cores beyond Carizzo actually, and the GPUs are okay. AMD needs a foot in the door for mobile, getting some Dell laptops with AMD tech would do wonders. I think it'd be dumb to be AMD only and it's a pretty big stretch to take that away from what I was saying honestly. Further- Krailor posted:Now is actually a great time to invest in AMD if you think Zen has even a chance of being an adequate product. This is where my thoughts are wandering as well. Tinfoil in the results or not, the reorganization is likely why Silver Lake bought into AMD, since a solid, independent GPU division means Silver Lake is less likely to lose their money. I don't think AMD reorganized explicitly for Silver Lake unless these talks were open since early 2014.
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Sep 10, 2015 16:34
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I'm sure existing AMD shareholders are going to love the fact that the value of AMD's shares are going to tank even more when AMD tries to dilute their share holdings.
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Sep 11, 2015 00:37
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lmao who gives a gently caress about shareholders anyway
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Sep 11, 2015 01:01
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and Jim Keller is out at AMD so much for Zen, I guess!
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Professor Science posted:and Jim Keller is out at AMD Well, AMD continues to act like Twitch Manages a Multinational Technology Corporation.
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Sep 18, 2015 19:28
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http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3348051&pagenumber=204#post450385662
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Professor Science posted:and Jim Keller is out at AMD His work is already done, I guess he could have stuck around to collect paycheques for 5 years to do minor revisions if he didn't have anything better to do.
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sauer kraut posted:His work is already done, I guess he could have stuck around to collect paycheques for 5 years to do minor revisions if he didn't have anything better to do.
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Sep 18, 2015 19:56
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I just want to see what he worked on be released.
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Sep 19, 2015 02:02
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The combination of continuous postponement of Zen and now Jim Keller leaving prior to release indicates Zen is a failure, AMD knows it, and the restructuring of the GPU branch is a parachute for what still matters. gently caress.
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Sep 19, 2015 04:19
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When you build a new building, how long does the architect work on it? Compared to how long does it actually take to build. Surely, his work is done before anyone even thinks about breaking ground?
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Sep 19, 2015 04:43
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Surely someone needs to design Zen mk2 or whatever?
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Sep 19, 2015 04:51
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lDDQD posted:When you build a new building, how long does the architect work on it? Compared to how long does it actually take to build. Could be a few months or even weeks for a small scale project, to 10 years for a really huge one. My grandfather was a working architect, he could crack out simple structures like suburban bank branches and clothing stores in 8 business days after a while - most of the work was in adapting the generic building to the specific lot. On big projects, the architect is still drafting later phases even while some of the early phases have been built.
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Sep 19, 2015 04:53
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I choose to believe that Jim Keller is a chip design cowboy who rides into town when AMD needs him the most, fixes their poo poo, and then rides out into the sunset. The fastest draw in Sunnyvale.
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It's apparently more than that. Rumor is, Jim Keller was brought in due to his expertise with ARM while at Apple, hence why K12 was called K12. It's possible AMD dropped K12 entirely, and Jim had no reason to stay. So AMD dropped what was likely going to be an extremely compelling ARM chip likely due to financial reasons, and it's unknown if they'll ever pick it back up because Lisa Su is way more interested in the HPC, custom and semi-custom environments than mobile, which is dumb because mobile is what matters. The only way it makes sense is if AMD believes Zen would be better for mobile solutions anyway. This is contradicted by the fact that AMD still has several ARM design wins and still hasn't dropped embedded ARM servers, so if Keller just idles for 2016 and is suddenly an AMD employee again in a revived AMD for 2017 then I guess K12?
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VostokProgram posted:I choose to believe that Jim Keller is a chip design cowboy who rides into town when AMD needs him the most, fixes their poo poo, and then rides out into the sunset. You are more correct than you know. If his actions over the past decade are any indication, he's a mercenary for hire. I believe he's simultaneously reached the point of having the notoriety and reached the point where he only takes work as long as it interests him, then he's out the door onto the next thing.
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FaustianQ posted:It's apparently more than that. Rumor is, Jim Keller was brought in due to his expertise with ARM while at Apple, hence why K12 was called K12. It's possible AMD dropped K12 entirely, and Jim had no reason to stay. So AMD dropped what was likely going to be an extremely compelling ARM chip likely due to financial reasons, and it's unknown if they'll ever pick it back up because Lisa Su is way more interested in the HPC, custom and semi-custom environments than mobile, which is dumb because mobile is what matters. The only way it makes sense is if AMD believes Zen would be better for mobile solutions anyway. Carrizo scales down to 12w not losing very much performance, I'm pretty sure AMD can pull off a single/dual core Zen part that uses about that much for mobile chips, possibly punting the i3 out of range. Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Chuu posted:That's kind of what I meant when I said they exist in their own world when it comes to pricing metrics. Based on it's cost/performance it should probably cost negative dollars just based on your electric bill. But it's such an incredible novelty that many people (myself included) want one to play around with. If I could get it and a motherboard that could actually run it for around $100-$200, assuming I could resell it for 75% of that, I'd love to buy it just to see how insane a 220W chip really is. I run a 9370 setup that I only went for because I got Motherboard/CPU for £200 total, as an upgrade to my i5 2500k. Was only a viable build because a friend gave me a kraken x61 as a gift.  When I factor in the cost of replacing the PSU and ongoing electricity costs, it probably wasn't worth it. But like you I was attracted to the gimmick/special snowflake factor.
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Popehoist posted:I run a 9370 setup that I only went for because I got Motherboard/CPU for £200 total, as an upgrade to my i5 2500k. quote:upgrade to my i5 2500k. 
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at 5Ghz it at the VERY worst matches the i5 on single threaded performance and completely stomps it in all sorts of multithreaded applications it's not a massive upgrade but for half the price of a devils canyon setup i got about halfway in between with my silly gimmick machine
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Popehoist posted:at 5Ghz it at the VERY worst matches the i5 on single threaded performance and completely stomps it in all sorts of multithreaded applications If even a 9590 can outdo a trivially overclocked (4.4~) Sandy quad in any situation, I'd be rather surprised; single or multi thread. A 9590 basically fails to match Sandy Bridge @ 3.3 in single threaded tasks, for example, and in multi threading tests the performance is inconsistent, and nothing a 3770K or 4770K would lose any sleep over (or the aforementioned overclocked Sandy). All that, while consuming way, way more power. If you're happy with your choice, that's fine, but it's pretty awful advice, and I would not consider that an upgrade. At most, a sidegrade for someone working entirely with specialist multithreaded applications who doesn't give a poo poo about power and heat. AnandTech's review | Hardware Canucks review | Overclocks Club review | Hardware.info review | KitGuru review | Modders Inc review | PC Perspective review HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Sep 20, 2015 |
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Popehoist posted:I run a 9370 setup that I only went for because I got Motherboard/CPU for £200 total, as an upgrade to my i5 2500k. Was only a viable build because a friend gave me a kraken x61 as a gift. What the hell is that?
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Sep 19, 2015 22:47
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the result of needing approximately a billion watts to equal an i5
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Sep 19, 2015 22:47
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I was not aware that i5s left behind things that look like feces. I may have to reconsider my new CAD rig.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I was not aware that i5s left behind things that look like feces. I may have to reconsider my new CAD rig. That is the 12V CPU power cable he managed to burn out with his AMD FX 200+ Watt CPU, not an i5, which tend to use reasonable amounts of power.
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