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Chiefs should at least grab RG3 and see if they can fix him for, say, the 2017 season
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Yeah that's a bummer because he's put this team on his back many times and eeked out wins.
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Sep 18, 2015 23:30
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The Chiefs need to develop a QB. Draft one. THen if he sucks draft another one. Keep doing that until you find a franchise QB. Retreads from other teams haven't worked for the last 32 years and aren't going to work in the future.
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Sep 18, 2015 23:31
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spacemang_spliff posted:The Chiefs need to develop a QB. Draft one. THen if he sucks draft another one. Uh Trent Green was pretty good
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Sep 18, 2015 23:33
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Oh yeah what about Aaron Murray, Tyler Bray and uh, Ricky Stanzi
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Sep 18, 2015 23:34
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NC-17 posted:All these guys are demonstrably worse than Smith. The answer is nobody. There isnt a backup or bottom 10 starters at QB that you should take over Alex Smith. Should they have taken Bridgewater? Yeeep Should they trade anything for a bottom rung QB? Hell no. Ride out the Alex Smith train untill you can draft something good.
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Sep 18, 2015 23:35
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Same old Chiefs. All the talent in the world and still collapse in crucial moments. It's like the 90's only without the economic stablity, general happiness, and the innocence of childhood. Imagine if that we had just coasted to a 12-4 record with the #2 seed and it was a divisional playoff game. It would be peak Chiefs football.
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Sep 18, 2015 23:37
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Pron on VHS posted:Chiefs should at least grab RG3 and see if they can fix him for, say, the 2017 season RG3's career legit bums me out.
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Sep 19, 2015 00:15
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But in all seriousness folks, ha ha, folks, uh, folks... Mett isn't that great.
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Sep 19, 2015 00:15
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NC-17 posted:Who are these quarterbacks better than Smith that aren't starting in the NFL? Matt Moore Jimmy Garroppolo E.J. Manuel Derek Anderson Mike Glennon Chase Daniel and probably Tyler Bray one day Brock Osweiler Austin Davis Ryan Mallett Brian Hoyer T.J. Yates RGII or Cousins Tavaris Jackson and on and on and on. These dudes aren't necessarily good, but they'll come cheaper than two seconds and $68 mill. They'll be able to play at a level equal to or above Smith's dismal ability. Not all would be permanent or would even last the whole season. But they would be able to do just the same as Smith if not better. Maybe they don't have a terribly obvious flaw like Smith does. gently caress I'd just take half of these dudes on the chance that they're better than Smith.
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Sep 19, 2015 00:26
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Intruder posted:Case Keenum if you want a guy with a Brett Favre mentality but without the arm or accuracy You mean the guy riding a 2 game winning streak? 
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NC-17 posted:I want to know what Parm and the other Smith haters would like the Chiefs to do to fix the quarterback position. It seems like the options are basically: Straight up, even if you accept the premise that Smith is holding Kansas City back, thinking the team would be any better with Daniel starting is delusional. Advocating for Daniel to get an extension while the Chiefs train up a drafted QB is even crazier. Chase Daniel has proven nothing at the NFL level, ever. Parmesan Basil posted:Matt Moore The only one of these guys I could even kind of see giving an opportunity over Smith is Glennon, because he's young and there were at least glimpses of potential. Guys like Moore and Hoyer haven't been able to hold on to starting jobs for a reason. And have you ever even seen TJ Yates or Kirk Cousins play football? Grozz Nuy fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Sep 19, 2015 00:32
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I'm still keeping good to my word and finishing my last year of goodwill with Smith but so far he's proving all his detractors right and gaining more by the day, especially among casual Chiefs fans. It all started after that pitiful 2 minute drive in Arizona last year and has been picking up steam ever since. Even my facebook feed, the KC subreddit, and some of the Sunshine Peddlers™ on Arrowheadpride are starting to turn. Edit: Parm called it. 
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Sep 19, 2015 00:39
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Athanatos posted:The answer is nobody. There isnt a backup or bottom 10 starters at QB that you should take over Alex Smith. Bridgewater has not proven anything yet.
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Sep 19, 2015 00:41
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Parmesan Basil posted:Matt Moore cool list of quarterbacks worse than Alex Smith
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Sep 19, 2015 00:46
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Non-broken RG3 and TJax, maybe. Everyone else, LOL.
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Sep 19, 2015 00:56
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What about Brandon Weedahahahah I can't even get it out
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Sep 19, 2015 01:25
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Metapod posted:Uh Trent Green was pretty good He was but how many playoff games did he win as a Chief?
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Sep 19, 2015 01:40
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Pron on VHS posted:Oh yeah what about Aaron Murray, Tyler Bray and uh, Ricky Stanzi none of them have won a regular season game as a starter. I said it earlier, but the last QB drafted by the Chiefs who has won a regular season game as a starter is Todd Blackledge who was drafted in 1983
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Sep 19, 2015 01:43
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seems like the only option is to enter the tank competition to get cardale, then at least the chiefs will have someone with an arm
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Sep 19, 2015 01:45
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spacemang_spliff posted:He was but how many playoff games did he win as a Chief? Irrelevant because that was more on the defense than the offense
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Sep 19, 2015 01:47
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Basically I'm just done with Smith. We've seen the best he has to offer and he'll never hit those highs again.
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Sep 19, 2015 01:51
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spacemang_spliff posted:Keep doing that until you find a franchise QB. Retreads from other teams haven't worked for the last 32 years and aren't going to work in the future. Here's a list of "retreads" or free agents who have brought their teams to Super Bowls just since 2000. On top of this there have been plenty of QB's who moved to new teams and had post season success (hello Favre, Manning, etc). Drew Brees Kurt Warner on Cardinals Matt Hasselbeck Jake Delhomme Rich Gannon Brad Johnson Kurt Warner on Rams Trend Dilfer Impossibly Perfect Sphere fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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Sep 19, 2015 01:52
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NC-17 posted:Here's a list of "retreads" or free agents who have brought their teams to Super Bowls just since 2000. On top of this there have been plenty of QB's who moved to new teams and had post season success (hello Favre, Manning, etc). And that's happened for the Chiefs once in the past 20 years with Joe Montana
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Sep 19, 2015 01:59
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Metapod posted:Irrelevant because that was more on the defense than the offense He played 6 seasons for the Chiefs and won 0 playoff games. And hell he's probably the best QB they had since Montana
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Sep 19, 2015 02:01
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spacemang_spliff posted:He played 6 seasons for the Chiefs and won 0 playoff games. Once again the chiefs defense was not good which is a pretty important component if you want to win playoff games
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Sep 19, 2015 02:08
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Metapod posted:Once again the chiefs defense was not good which is a pretty important component if you want to win playoff games What about 2006? What about every other year since 1994? QB is the single most important component if you want to win playoff games. Alex Smith is not the answer. A falling apart RG3 isn't going to be the answer. Brodie Croyle wasn't the answer (but at least he was drafted by KC and then started). Tyler Bray sure as poo poo isn't the answer  Those two wins weren't while they were Chiefs.
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Sep 19, 2015 02:16
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spacemang_spliff posted:What about 2006? No Houston or Super Bowl Winning QB David Carr
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Sep 19, 2015 02:25
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spacemang_spliff posted:What about 2006? I feel like the Packers shouldn't be that high since they were bad in the 80s and shouldn't get any of the wins from the Favre era
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Sep 19, 2015 02:25
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Ross Angeles posted:I feel like the Packers shouldn't be that high since they were bad in the 80s and shouldn't get any of the wins from the Favre era It looks like Atlanta got all his wins, which makes sense based on the premise of the chart
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Sep 19, 2015 02:29
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Ross Angeles posted:I feel like the Packers shouldn't be that high since they were bad in the 80s and shouldn't get any of the wins from the Favre era atlanta got all the wins. green bay drafted hasselbeck who has 80 wins, rodgers who has over 100, the majik man who had ~20ish, plus some others in the mix
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Sep 19, 2015 02:32
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TubeStank posted:atlanta got all the wins. Matt Flynn is the gift who just keeps on giving. Also did Brian Brohm ever win any games in Buffalo?
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Sep 19, 2015 02:36
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TubeStank posted:atlanta got all the wins. Matt Flynn has 3 
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OxySnake posted:Matt Flynn is the gift who just keeps on giving. haha, nope! he also has never won a game in the cfl!
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Sep 19, 2015 02:41
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Petite Dinklage posted:Matt Flynn has 3 i was at one of those wins 
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Sep 19, 2015 02:42
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TubeStank posted:i was at one of those wins Detroit?
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Sep 19, 2015 02:47
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spacemang_spliff posted:What about 2006? 2006 green was old and got hurt. The rest of your point is irrelevant because all I'm arguing is that Trent Green was a good QB
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Sep 19, 2015 02:47
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Derek Anderson based on last year and preseason this year would probably start in Houston and Washington.
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Sep 19, 2015 02:52
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Metapod posted:Once again the chiefs defense was not good which is a pretty important component if you want to win playoff games
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