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http://ygorganization.com/breakers-of-shadow-new-theme-and-some-new-cards/ Those new machine dinosaurs look neat.
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I find it kind of sad how the powercreep in YGO has gotten so completely insane that such banlist changes like Charge of the Light Brigade to 2, Gateway of the Six to 2, Honest to 3, and Crush Card Virus to 2 are no longer worth mention. Also the fact that Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End is legal at 3 copies in a deck and the reaction is "whatever". Considering a year ago the idea that CED would be unbanned ever was still in the realm of "never happening in a million years", the fact that it's now completely unlimited and the reaction isn't "ABANDON GAME" is just horrifying. (Meanwhile, the fact that Clownblade is already being considered to be more overpowered than Dragon Rulers ever were and that they were BOLSTERED by the banlist rather than hit doesn't make any sense at all)
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Sep 17, 2015 13:34
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CED and CCV got errata'd, that's why they're unbanned.
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Sep 17, 2015 14:14
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the Orb of Zot posted:I find it kind of sad how the powercreep in YGO has gotten so completely insane that such banlist changes like Charge of the Light Brigade to 2, Gateway of the Six to 2, Honest to 3, and Crush Card Virus to 2 are no longer worth mention. Chaos Emperor Dragon had an errata in the OCG, so it only does burn damage for the cards your opponent had, and it has the clause that you can't activate any other effects for the rest of the turn (Killing off old strategies and preventing you from abusing floaters, Grave swarmers, etc.). Basically, it can push for game, but that's pretty much it, and leaves you wide open. As for "Clownblade", the original concept (Performage Trick Clown + Assault Halberd and friends) isn't that broken, but is a solid engine. The real brokeness comes into play with the pendulum monsters in the next set, giving us Magicians, Performages, and Performapals that set up the field in an extremely strong lock and give you so much advantage that it really feels like a coinflip format (Like Frog FTK).
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Sep 17, 2015 14:21
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https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=7413 So they are changing the way rarities are processed. I'm excited for it, though hopefully Konami doesn't pull a Secret Forces and start Short Printing higher rarity cards... Also sucks about the Ultimates being cut, but at least we will get a few here and there from Astral Packs.
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Sep 18, 2015 05:16
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More importantly then that, though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWrIoSLYJJk NEW EPISODE GET HYPED. 
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Sep 18, 2015 06:02
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Julias posted:https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=7413 I'm fine with those changes. I don't mind losing the ultimate foil but it is a shame to miss the ghost foil, those looked cool as hell.
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Sep 18, 2015 06:44
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Ultimates and Ghosts out but benderiffic Secrets twice as common. Why.
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Sep 18, 2015 09:08
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Is YGO still like playing Calvinball with a tweaked-out solitare nerd?
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Sep 18, 2015 14:46
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Poison Mushroom posted:Is YGO still like playing Calvinball with a tweaked-out solitare nerd? It's like playing calvinball where being a tweaked out solitaire nerd works only 50% of the time. And most likely the archetype you are playing can hit it off much more consistently.
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Sep 18, 2015 14:53
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Poison Mushroom posted:Is YGO still like playing Calvinball with a tweaked-out solitare nerd? Depends on the deck you face. If you face Chain Burn, Exodia, or more or less anything Slur plays, then yes. If you drop down to a more casual level, not so much.
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Sep 18, 2015 14:55
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I just remember when Infernity dropped, and I realized it was the beginning of the end for my interest in the game. Must have been a couple years ago now. RIP, my goofy Noble Knights and Gem Knights decks. You were fun while you lasted. 
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Sep 18, 2015 15:04
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Gem Knights got some support recently, because a character in the new anime actually uses it.
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Sep 18, 2015 15:06
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Senerio posted:Depends on the deck you face. You're just mad 'cause I won.
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Sep 18, 2015 15:33
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Hey I put more or less because D/Ds aren't like that.
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Sep 18, 2015 15:35
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Senerio posted:Gem Knights got some support recently, because a character in the new anime actually uses it. Deck building isn't fun because everything's already an archetype and playing isn't fun because by the end of the first turn, the game's already decided.
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Sep 18, 2015 17:24
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Depends on what deck you face. The new ruling that the first player doesn't draw makes it a little easier for second player to actually do stuff.
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Sep 18, 2015 17:35
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I like going first when I'm jamming hieratic gishki, especially w/ gustkraken at 2 now  . What's that? you wanted to start with 2 cards in your hand?although honestly the number of copies of gustkraken doesn't do that much i think you just have more ways to spend your gishki searchers and don't have to m7 your gustkraken or something.
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Sep 18, 2015 17:42
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I like going second as Greydle Kaiju. Oh hey that's a nice untargetable monster with a completely absurd effect. It's a shame that it just got tributed... At least you got a nice monster out of it! Oh wait, that's an Owner's Seal. 
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Sep 18, 2015 17:44
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A dude I was playing told me you're at a disadvantage if you're go first and I had a field established with a fire lake ready at the end of the first turn and then he lost two turns later. Iirc my statement was something along the lines of "Yeah, going second's the way to go."
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Sep 18, 2015 19:01
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It depends on the deck, really. Some decks benefit significantly from going first. Some benefit significantly from going second.
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Sep 18, 2015 19:03
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That is true, but the mentality is not a good mentality to have in general.
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Sep 18, 2015 19:18
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Yeah, completely agree. Did he know you were playing BA when he said that?
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Sep 18, 2015 19:20
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He literally saw me making the move as he said it
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Sep 18, 2015 20:35
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In my casual experience with friends we always want to go second because none of us use crazy-optimal decks and the first attack+draw winds up much more valuable.  It all depends on who you're playing with I guess.
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Sep 19, 2015 02:28
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On the other hand, going first lets you set traps, so you can gently caress over your opponent's first turn, whereas they (mostly) can't do anything on your first turn.
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Sep 19, 2015 04:43
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As Noble Knight player, I'm always try to go first.
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Sep 19, 2015 05:03
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Dexie posted:On the other hand, going first lets you set traps, so you can gently caress over your opponent's first turn, whereas they (mostly) can't do anything on your first turn. Yeah, but who runs traps anymore besides the 2 or 3 cards to fuel Raflessia? This is why we need an exclusively control-based format again.
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Sep 19, 2015 16:43
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Slur posted:Yeah, but who runs traps anymore besides the 2 or 3 cards to fuel Raflessia? I do. Always keep a Compulsory Evacuation Device and one or two Bottomless Pits to get rid of monsters that cannot be destroyed through normal means.
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Sep 19, 2015 17:07
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Literally everyone runs traps still with exception of like Nekroz and Shaddoll and those side them in more often than not depending on matchup.
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Sep 19, 2015 17:19
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Baal posted:Literally everyone runs traps still with exception of like Nekroz and Shaddoll and those side them in more often than not depending on matchup. I think you should reevaluate the latest OCG top 32 lists, and then tell me again "everyone runs traps in more than 2-3 copies".
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Sep 19, 2015 17:21
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Does Royal Decree count as running traps? 
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Sep 19, 2015 17:24
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Slur posted:I think you should reevaluate the latest OCG top 32 lists, and then tell me again "everyone runs traps in more than 2-3 copies". I don't play yugioh exclusively on Ygopro and Devpro, so you'll have to excuse me if an entire country I don't play Yugioh in actually has an effect on how I play the game. Poison Mushroom posted:Does Royal Decree count as running traps? Yes
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"Well, you see. This entire country I only follow through second-hand coverage in text form is how everyone plays the game in the world even though there is an other half of the world of players who make up the other majority of the yugioh player base. I will never actually play any of these players only people who copy them since I only play online, but this is the one standard I hold the game to." -Slur
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Sep 19, 2015 17:52
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Baal posted:"Well, you see. This entire country I only follow through second-hand coverage in text form is how everyone plays the game in the world even though there is an other half of the world of players who make up the other majority of the yugioh player base. I will never actually play any of these players only people who copy them since I only play online, but this is the one standard I hold the game to." I'm following the meta and how it functions in both the OCG and TCG. I'm looking at the best decks as the most viable coverage of the game itself. There is nothing wrong or inaccurate with that.
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Sep 19, 2015 17:55
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You are playing a format of the game that uses cards that are inaccessible to both regions in a weird mix that isn't allowed in World Championships. This is not to mention that there is an entire archetype that exists in the west right now which places consistently that uses traps a lot that you like to ignore and Japan is now getting those cards. You can't sit here and say you're following the meta and how it functions in both and try to make generalizations that completely ignores one side, that's flat out contradictory. This is not to mention the other cards the OCG is getting that actually weirdly enough help support that archetype.
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Sep 19, 2015 18:01
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I mean, there's nothing wrong with only playing the game online.
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Absolutely. it gives you the benefit of being able to play a game you like without having to dump monies into it like any of us who play irl and you don't have to wait to play around with cards you don't have access to normally and it's a good place to just gently caress around and have fun.
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If YGOPro didn't exist I would never in a million years have gotten back in to this ridiculous game. The entirety of my physical collection is an unholy mix of the Kaiba and whoever in GX used dinosaurs starter decks and like two cards from a Joey deck traded off a friend, all from back when the Extra Deck was the Fusion Deck. I mean I'm preaching to the choir here but I really am quite grateful. Can't believe I temporarily gave up on a game that wound up introducing Kozmo  .
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YGOPro and the like are pretty awesome things, but honestly, I've come to hate the combined format of "TCG banlist with every region's cards" that they offer.
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