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Pope Guilty posted:Doc Hammer's got a kickass band (who did an amazing cover of my favorite song), but I doubt that really qualifies as a job. He sounds like Dermott when he sings. Kind of puts me off the otherwise good music. I love the look of their AstroBaseGo HQ, it's so not what one would expect where most of the work gets done. Almost a hovel with old CRT screens and cigarettes strewn about.
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fspades posted:Let's be honest; nobody watches this show. It's pretty much the best animated show ever for people who get its humor, but good luck convincing other people to try it. I successfully got like.. one person to watch it ever. She loves it and quotes it all the time. Everyone else though, jeez... One guy I used to work with told me he liked Archer, so I tentatively recommended VB too, with all the caveats about how the first season is really rough but so-and-so episodes are good, then it picks up by blah blah. So he went off and first accidentally downloaded Adventure Time (similar name????) which he hated, and told me so, but it took me a while to realise he had the wrong show. Once I corrected him, he finally tried Venture Bros, gave it like two episodes, and refused to watch any more. 
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Red posted:The show is amazing, so I'm willing to tolerate 13 years for 6 seasons. Supposedly(at least according to scuttlebutt I've heard on other sites) it's at least partially cause Comedy Central has had an open offer to the creators to bring Venture Brothers to them if CN/Adult Swim ever cans them before they want it to be done(since they supposedly own the series rights unlike most AS shows), and letting a show as well loved as VB jump to another network would be the sort of thing that'd result in some heads rolling at Adult Swim(which makes sense as Mile Lazzo has been canceling other shows on AS left and right over the las year or so)
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Hedrigall posted:I successfully got like.. one person to watch it ever. She loves it and quotes it all the time. That man is a lost cause. Sever.
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I'm trying and failing to think of the kind of person who would like Archer but not VB. Why?
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Archer can have a pretty bro-y audience.
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freypies posted:I'm trying and failing to think of the kind of person who would like Archer but not VB. Why? A friend of mine likes Archer but not VB because he doesn't get all the references in VB. v  v
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They really dont have much in common, besides both of them being animated sitcoms. Plus Archer somehow looks even cheaper than VB, thanks to the boring uninspired art design.
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feedmyleg posted:Archer can have a pretty bro-y audience. Think of the sort of person who likes South Park and thinks Eric Cartman is hilarious because he says things we're all thinking, and understand that that guy loves Archer for exactly the wrong reasons.
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Sep 18, 2015 03:56
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I dislike Archer for the same reason I generally disliked Sealab and ATHF (and since it's basically the same people that made all of those, it doesn't surprise me): When it makes me laugh, it makes me laugh until my face and stomach hurt, but those laughs come at a rate of about once per 4-5 episodes. The rest of the time, it's stifilingly unfunny. The ratio just isn't good enough to warrant watching.
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Sep 18, 2015 04:34
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I like Archer and Venture Bros.
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All I know is that Brock loving Samson could take RIP RILEY, MANHUNTER in a fight without much of a challenge. Plus in Archer someone was stupid enough to clone Hitler, whereas even Doc Venture wasn't amoral enough to clone Hitler.
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Sash! posted:Plus in Archer someone was stupid enough to clone Hitler, whereas even Doc Venture wasn't amoral enough to clone Hitler.
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Hedrigall posted:I successfully got like.. one person to watch it ever. She loves it and quotes it all the time. Yeah. I showed "Careers in Science" to the in-laws over vacation, and they hated it. I'm not even really sure what a good intro episode really would be, that would be accessible and funny to most people. Ghosts of the Sargasso?
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Red posted:Yeah. "The Incredible Mr. Brisby" or "Tag Sale – You're It!" seem to be good starting points. You could even show stuff like "¡Viva los Metros!", "The Buddy System" or "Spanakopita!" to give people a taste of fun standalone episodes.
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Sep 18, 2015 17:37
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"Ghosts of the Sargasso" and "Tag Sale- You're It!" together serve as a nice little mission statement for the series.
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Yeah, to me "Tag Sale- You're It!" is just the series contained in a perfect bite sized episode because you get introduced to all the elements. 1) Doctor Venture's financial issues 2) Dean's awkward teenage naivety 3) Hank's insanity 4) Brock's brutality 5) Monarch's baseless hate for Dr. Venture 6) Supervillans who operate under rules 7) 24 and 21 8) Dr. O 9) Billy Quizboy and Pete White 10) Hanging a lampshade on Dr. Girlfriend's voice It's really just perfect.
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Ghosts of the Sargasso perfectly encapsulates the mood and tone of the show. If they don't like that one, they won't like the show.
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I've introduced it to a couple of people successfully, you've just got to understand who is going to like the show's sensibility and who isn't. For instance, I have one friend who - like me - loves Hardy Boys and Johnny Quest and Doc Savage and Scooby Doo and superscience and golden age superheroes and the vast majority of things that Venture Bros. is a take on, but the writing in the show didn't gel with his sense of humor so I couldn't sell him on it. Conversely, I've had friends who don't relate to any of that stuff who are a perfect fit for the show's sense of humor. Now I've got a real sense for who responds to it. Know your audience, because it's definitely not a show for everyone. Though with the former guy, I did show him Escape from the House of the Mummies Part II and he could definitely see the appeal and why I loved it. He just didn't really dig it, especially the B-plot with the shrink-ray pettiness and the guilty pleasures lists. He'd rather just watch an episode of Johnny Quest or read some Doc Savage and not have it be filtered through the particular brand of nostalgia and cynicism that Venture Bros. provides. e: Then again, I wonder how many people in this thread don't relate to superheroes/Hardy Boys/Quest/Scooby Doo/etc., or if the show really does only survive on that audience. Is everyone on board for that stuff? Also, Tag Sale isn't my favorite episode to introduce people to the show with. It does have all the right elements, but it's a very plot-light episode that feels like it relies on foreknowledge of Monarch and Dr. Girlfriend. I think Mummies or Ice Station – Impossible are a little more relatable. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Sep 18, 2015 |
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Djarum posted:"The Incredible Mr. Brisby" or "Tag Sale – You're It!" seem to be good starting points. feedmyleg posted:e: Then again, I wonder how many people in this thread don't relate to superheroes/Hardy Boys/Quest/Scooby Doo/etc., or if the show really does only survive on that audience. Is everyone on board for that stuff? X_Toad fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Sep 18, 2015 |
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Brisby's Brock-Molotov fight in the hotel room was like every VB commercial on Adult Swim back in 2004. It's one of the reasons I started watching the show. I think people just sort of need to watch a bunch of early-mid season 1 episodes and see if it clicks.
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feedmyleg posted:
i really don't care for any of that stuff
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Davincie posted:i really don't care for any of that stuff I never really liked or cared about any of that stuff but I'm familiar enough with it that I laugh at how it's lampooned.
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Ithaqua posted:I dislike Archer for the same reason I generally disliked Sealab and ATHF (and since it's basically the same people that made all of those, it doesn't surprise me): When it makes me laugh, it makes me laugh until my face and stomach hurt, but those laughs come at a rate of about once per 4-5 episodes. The rest of the time, it's stifilingly unfunny. The ratio just isn't good enough to warrant watching. It's this weird strain of comedy where people stand around being awkward. Its funny to some people, but I don't get it.
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twistedmentat posted:It's this weird strain of comedy where people stand around being awkward. Its funny to some people, but I don't get it. Yea, you gotta do that thing where you pay attention to get the jokes.
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Tenzarin posted:Yea, you gotta do that thing where you pay attention to get the jokes. But there isn't a joke! The scenes go Character says something awkward everyone stands around uncomfortably next scene. Unless the joke is that there is no joke, like some koan.
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twistedmentat posted:Character says something awkward Like for Venture Brothers, I wouldn't recommend every Season 1 episode for Archer. Out of ten, I would only recommend five : Diversity Hire, Killing Utne, Honeypot (if there was only one, it would be this one), Skytanic and The Rock. X_Toad fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Sep 19, 2015 |
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If it were me I'd say "Skytanic". I've never seen "Nice read, Velma!" not get a laugh.
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It's been 9 years since I first saw Ghosts of Sargasso reruns during season 2s original run. I still yell at my roommate about following the ghost pirate rules and we always get a laugh. It's the best starter episode imo.
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Mr. Nice! posted:It's been 9 years since I first saw Ghosts of Sargasso reruns during season 2s original run. I still yell at my roommate about following the ghost pirate rules and we always get a laugh. It's the best starter episode imo. Between "If you'd a played by the rules, the Ghost Pirate rules, none of this would have happened!" and "At the first sign of trouble I want you to at least break both his knee caps" that's probably one of the more quoted episodes in my social group too. edit: was that also where "You're not a very good liar, are you Dean" "...maybe?" came from too? If so I think that's the most quotable episode the show's done.
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Yo ho Mike
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Mr. Nice! posted:It's been 9 years since I first saw Ghosts of Sargasso reruns during season 2s original run. I still yell at my roommate about following the ghost pirate rules and we always get a laugh. It's the best starter episode imo. I can pinpoint the exact moment I started loving this show during that episode. It's when they finally see the ghost and the captain is stammering and he says "that is-just-wow no way!"
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notZaar posted:I can pinpoint the exact moment I started loving this show during that episode. It's when they finally see the ghost and the captain is stammering and he says "that is-just-wow no way!" Same
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The loving intro with major tom did it for me.
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Dynamite Dog posted:Yo ho Mike My sword's made of CAHRBOAHRD.
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The moment Brock crashes his car into the cocoon in episode 1 was the moment for me. It's a great episode 1. "They hit me with a truck." "Thank you for your very generous- crap, pesos. All these zeros are meaningless." "Chupacabra, they're all over this part of Mexico."
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twistedmentat posted:But there isn't a joke! You're basically right, but this is why I love those shows. There aren't really any jokes, it's purely down to the delivery and the pacing of each line and how they carry these idiotic situations being funny in itself. And you're also right in saying that it really isn't for everyone. I however would sell a kidney for more Sealab and Harvey Birdman.
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Dabba Don is one of my favorite episodes of anything ever.
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Do you dab?
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I dab.
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