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He doesn't blame anyone except himself for sleeping around. Like he acknowledges that he was unhappy with his wife but he certainly never paints the picture that it was her fault, at all.
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Bret's one of those guys that doesn't know much about wrestling outside of his regular stomping grounds. Wrestlers also tend to have opinions on who the good workers are that seem weird to fans because they use different criteria than a fan would. So the Flair thing is not that surprising.
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BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:I think you'll find he was banned and never returned after making the best post of all time. Link me
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NickRoweFillea posted:Link me http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3688311&pagenumber=25&perpage=40#post439235233 Not sure if it's this guy or not, but just enjoy this spectacle. Go back a page for context.
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Does Cody Rhodes have a lisp? My friend swears he does but I don't really hear it
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That DICK! posted:Does Cody Rhodes have a lisp? My friend swears he does but I don't really hear it It was more prominent a few years ago when he was working with Ted jr, but I think he worked past it to the point where it's no longer there. Swagger's lisp is bad enough that someone needs to get him a speech coach.
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Flair also buried him hard in his book, and it's certainly possible that Flair may have said something before the book that got back to Bret.
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I guess Bret might be a little bitter because he was never a big star (like Flair/Hogan and later on Austin/HBK/Rock) but he was technically a great wrestler. Of course, in a fake sport being really good at the technical aspects only gets you so far. Then again that could all be wrong and he's just a mean jerk.
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:It's impossible to think of Bret as anything but a whiny tool after reading his book. You can take alot from Bret's book but dude is anything but a tool. He's an honest damaged nut who cared too much and legit got hosed over by a father figure of his.
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Glamorama26 posted:You can take alot from Bret's book but dude is anything but a tool. He's an honest damaged nut who cared too much and legit got hosed over by a father figure of his. He also blames his wife for his inability to stay faithful on the road, regularly buries people but gets upset when they return the favor, and definitely shares the blame in the Montreal incident.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:He also blames his wife for his inability to stay faithful on the road, regularly buries people but gets upset when they return the favor, and definitely shares the blame in the Montreal incident. Oh no arguement there on most of that. He sucks. I ain't putting any blame on him for Montreal though. He had creative control and used it. Oh God, all of our lives end with us arguing about the Montreal screwjob.
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If there's one thing to take away from brets book it's that everyone in brets life was willing to screw Bret over at a moments notice while Bret always took the straight and narrow and all those terrible situations he always found himself in were always out of his control.
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Sep 20, 2015 19:00
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How dare you, Bret was a saint and everyone cried when they talked to him.
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Wrong thread
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Bret is angry as gently caress http://youtu.be/tgoEIdSeB4E Incidentally this interview led to me and a friend deciding that CM punk and Bret doing commentary tracks for WWE PPV's would be entertaining as hell.
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Aubergine Mage posted:It was more prominent a few years ago when he was working with Ted jr, but I think he worked past it to the point where it's no longer there. I always got the impression from both of them that it was an artifact from wearing a retainer. Swagger might just have forgotten that he was wearing one when he was like 14 and so it's still in there
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El Gallinero Gros posted:He also blames his wife for his inability to stay faithful on the road, regularly buries people but gets upset when they return the favor, and definitely shares the blame in the Montreal incident. What blame does he share? He had a contract with stronger creative control than Hogan and an agreed upon conclusion to his title reign was reneged on violating that contract. He was 100% in the right legally and was under no obligation to "do the right thing" in a company that was breaching his contract for financial reasons.
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MassRafTer posted:What blame does he share? He had a contract with stronger creative control than Hogan and an agreed upon conclusion to his title reign was reneged on violating that contract. He was 100% in the right legally and was under no obligation to "do the right thing" in a company that was breaching his contract for financial reasons. His reason for not wanting to job has to be amongst the worst I've ever heard, and I grew up loving the guy and I'm from Canada.
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The reason is irrelevant, he had the right.
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He was absolutely correct and right in exercising his creative control to not lose the belt in Montreal. He was also a spoiled arrogant pissbaby in doing so, second only to the spoiled arrogant pissbaby he lost to.
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Memento posted:He was also a spoiled arrogant pissbaby in doing so, second only to the spoiled arrogant pissbaby he lost to. Except he had offered to lose the belt both before and after Montreal to a number of people including Michaels and outlined a number of scenarios which could've worked.
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Two questions - On ECW Exposed on the Network, the little after-the-live-part part, Paul Heyman mentions his favourite episode of Hardcore TV is one with a Sabu Return, an RVD return and a bunch of other amazing stuff. Is this an actual episode or was Hardcore TV a sort of compilation thing of like three weeks' worth of shows? Either way, anyone know what episode number it is so I can look it up? Secondly, how come Roddy didn't get as much coverage and overexposure on the Network as Dusty did after he died? Was he not well liked? Not as important?
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Perdido posted:Except he had offered to lose the belt both before and after Montreal to a number of people including Michaels and outlined a number of scenarios which could've worked. yes but now he's whiny in interviews so lets ignore all that
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magnum_valentino posted:On ECW Exposed on the Network, the little after-the-live-part part, Paul Heyman mentions his favourite episode of Hardcore TV is one with a Sabu Return, an RVD return and a bunch of other amazing stuff. I'm guessing it's this: http://ecwbyshaggs.tripod.com/interview.html quote:Question: What have been your favorite angle/angles? Date on that Hardcore TV episode is 6/19/1997 It can be watched here: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x31brmc
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El Gallinero Gros posted:His reason for not wanting to job has to be amongst the worst I've ever heard, and I grew up loving the guy and I'm from Canada. Not wanting to tank his marketability in Canada, which he was told WCW was seeking to expand into, with him as the centerpiece?
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What are some move names that were related to the gimmick of a particular user of the move that are still used outside of that context? e.g. Lariat (Stan Hansen) Pedigree (Triple H) Huracánrana (Huracán Ramirez) Quebrada (Fantasma de la Quebrada) Calf Branding (Dick Murdoch)
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Sep 21, 2015 03:24
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The Fame Asser, unfortunately. Camel Clutch, by the Shiek? The Alabama Slam. All moves primarily known by one name from one gimmick.
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Shiki Dan posted:Not wanting to tank his marketability in Canada, which he was told WCW was seeking to expand into, with him as the centerpiece? And WCW didn't run a single show in Canada in 1998 by the way. Bret obviously didn't know this would happen but then again it's WCW so he was naive to listen to them.
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rotinaj posted:The Fame Asser, unfortunately. Camel Clutch, by the Shiek? The Alabama Slam. All moves primarily known by one name from one gimmick. Those are good ones. Tiger Suplex/Tiger Driver (Tiger Mask) and Dragon Sleeper/Dragon Suplex (Tatsumi Fujinami) are others I can think of.
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It shouldn't count if that's the name given by the move's innovator, jeez. Anyway the Vertebreaker. It was invented by Megumi Kudo as the Kudome Valentine
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Spermgod posted:What are some move names that were related to the gimmick of a particular user of the move that are still used outside of that context? Texas cloverleaf, Diamond Cutter
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Outside of the kliq and his own family did anyone ever have any beef with Bret?
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DynamiteKidd posted:It shouldn't count if that's the name given by the move's innovator, jeez. I think that's exactly the point, move names that were based on someone's gimmick/ring name and then adopted by other people under the same name. Anyway, the STO?
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Tombstone is the obvious one.
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C. Everett Koop posted:Tombstone is the obvious one. Was called that as early as the 70s
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hurricanranaSmoking Crow posted:Texas cloverleaf, Diamond Cutter i almost always hear the diamond cutter referred to as an ace crusher everywhere else but i suppose that still fits
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Smoking Crow posted:Diamond Cutter Ace Crusher has a million variants and a million names. As much as I prefer DDP's version and name, it isn't synonymous with him.
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Spermgod posted:Was called that as early as the 70s Huh, i knew Taker didn't invent it but I didn't think it was called that until him.
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Does the Stunner count?
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